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  • Trump’s weak delegate operation could derail his nomination

    04/08/2016 11:01:05 PM PDT · by AmericanInTokyo · 139 replies
    MSNBC ^ | 6 April 2016 | Benjy Sarlan
    There’s a recurring question among the Republicans gathering in Colorado at state and local conventions to choose delegates this week: "Where’s Donald Trump?" Colorado is a rare state where party officials choose delegates without any input from a primary or caucus vote. The bulk of the state’s 37 delegates will be picked at a series of congressional district conventions on Friday and a state convention on Saturday in Colorado Springs. Prospective delegates can run as unaffiliated free agents or pledge to back a candidate. "There just doesn’t seem to be any Trump organization at all, to be honest," Dick Wadhams,...
  • Question For Freepers In The Philippines

    03/26/2016 8:03:48 AM PDT · by Lurker · 66 replies
    Self | 3/26/2016 | Lurker
    I'm looking for information from Freepers residing in the Philippenes. My parents are retired and are considering a move there. The Pastor at their church is Filipino and recommended it. I mentioned that some folks on the forum live there so they asked me if I could dig around here for some information. Dad is looking for info on the process, what are safe and friendly parts of the country to look at, that sort of thing. Dad is a retired IT guy, mom was a housewife but has a teaching background. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in...
  • Why I'm Leaving Free Republic

    02/23/2016 5:42:15 AM PST · by Oshkalaboomboom · 123 replies
    Free Republic ^ | 23 Feb 2016 | Oshkalaboomboom
    YOU IGNORANT HATERS ALWAYS BASHING MY CANDIDATE I CAN'T TAKE IT THIS @!^&*% PLACE.... Actualy, there is no drama involved in my decision. Sorry to disappoint anyone looking for some whiny schreechfest before I head for the exit. The truth is I'm about to leave the USA for good. My wife is a British citizen and our children and grandchildren still live in the UK. We have been looking for a more affordable place to retire for years, mostly in Central and South America but finally settled on Spain because of its beautiful weather, affordability, semi First World culture and...
  • How U.S.Expats Can Exclude More Than $100,000 from Taxes

    01/11/2016 2:27:53 PM PST · by lulu16 · 19 replies
    The Street ^ | 11/21/2015 | Chuck Bolotin
    Few people are not interested in legally reducing their taxes. By living in a foreign country and meeting some other criteria, you could exclude up to $108,000 of earned income from your 2015 U.S. tax return. That can certainly be an advantage of being an expat. The website Best Places In The World To Retire has collected more than 6,500 answers from expats to frequently asked questions about living abroad. These include cost of living, safety and healthcare. Several expats said that they were using the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion to reduce their tax liability to Uncle Sam, and that...
  • 7 Reasons Women Are Getting the Heck Out of Dodge and Seeking Their Dreams Overseas

    08/03/2015 2:09:53 PM PDT · by lulu16 · 128 replies
    What do you do when you want something more and different than you’re getting in your home country? For an increasing number of 60+ women, the answer is to move overseas. According to the data we collected through our website, Best Places in the World to Retire, there can be a better life out there, if you are willing to uproot and reinvent yourself as an expat in Belize, Nicaragua or Panama. In addition to the over 5,000 answers and 200 stories on our website, in early July, we released Expats: Expectations & Reality, the first in a series of...
  • Why I’m Giving Up My Passport[US Citizenship]

    12/07/2014 7:58:17 PM PST · by Theoria · 32 replies
    The New York Times ^ | 07 Dec 2014 | JONATHAN TEPPER
    LONDON — The mayor of London, Boris Johnson, who was born in New York and holds both American and British passports, recently said that he would not pay a tax bill from the United States on capital gains from the sale of his home in the London borough of Islington. Mr. Johnson pointed out that he hasn’t lived in America since he was 5. He’d like to renounce his citizenship, but said the process was “very difficult.”It is, but I am doing it. My “in-person final loss of citizenship appointment” is scheduled for Jan. 14 at the United States Consulate...
  • Bitter Sugar (Azucar Amarga) - Trailer

    08/29/2014 6:05:44 PM PDT · by DemforBush · 1 replies
    youtube ^ | n/a | n/a
    The trailer for Cuban ex-pat Leon Ichaso's film about life in 1990's Cuba, as seen through the eyes of an increasingly disillusioned young party member named Gustavo.
  • Greedy Politicians Get their Comeuppance as Taxpayers Escape

    05/04/2014 10:47:10 AM PDT · by Kaslin · 2 replies
    Townhall.com ^ | May 4, 2014 | Daniel J. Mitchell
    If you’re a regular reader, you already know I’m a big supporter of tax competition and tax havens. Here’s the premise: Politicians almost always are focused on their next election and this encourages them to pursue policies that are designed to maximize votes and power within that short time horizon. Unfortunately, this often results in very short-sighted and misguided fiscal policies that burden the economy, such as class-warfare tax policy and counterproductive government spending. So we need some sort of countervailing force that will make such policies less attractive to the political class. We don’t have anything that inhibits wasteful...
  • (Vanity) Question regarding obamacare and those living outside the US

    09/25/2013 1:44:34 PM PDT · by Red in Blue PA · 57 replies
    Does an American living outside the US need to pay the penalty of obamacare? Many take 6 to 12 month (or longer trips traveling the world, living off of their savings. Others live overseas and live a life which is simpler and as such, have less money coming in. What does a person living a good life in central American with a small store or restaurant do? If they make a few thousand in profit, that is fine living in many places. Obamacare fines would eat those profits up in no time. Additionally, what is the point of buying into...
  • Road to relationships rough for expat women in Moscow

    07/09/2013 10:23:41 PM PDT · by cunning_fish · 28 replies
    The Moscow News ^ | 08/07/2013 12:40 | Kristen Blyth
    On a blazing summer afternoon in Moscow, Stefania, an Italian professional in her early 30s, manages to look picture-perfect. In a belted tangerine dress, with an impeccable manicure and glossy hair, she fits right in to a local culture that celebrates ultra-feminine style. “You have to dress bright, like a traffic light – high heels, short skirts, hair, nails – to attract men’s attention,” she explained. “Dating in Moscow is a war, and your looks are your only weapons.” Yet even as she turns heads in the street, Stefania admits that her love life is a struggle. “Dating Russian men...
  • Where does one go when one doesn't want to be an American anymore?

    06/26/2013 12:13:06 PM PDT · by golux · 203 replies
    Vanity | 6.26.13 | golux
    Attack me if you will. Yes, yes - check my profile - I am indeed presently living abroad for work but I have always been a flag-waving American. At the moment some members of this august forum - which I have adored for many years, long before I was "golux" - believe Sarah can beat Hillary... Believe America will come to its senses on homosexual everything... Believe there will be some "push back," believe that for the first time in history (well, sine Appomatox) the Federal government will stop expending exponentially... Believe that Career Congresscritters will once again deign to...
  • Americans living in Canada face looming IRS tax deadline

    06/11/2013 8:34:41 PM PDT · by rickmichaels · 61 replies
    The Globe and Mail ^ | June 11, 2013 | ROMA LUCIW
    The deadline for Americans living in Canada to file a tax return with the U.S. Internal Revenue Service is less than a week away, but not everyone is scrambling to get their paperwork in order. “I’m not filing U.S. taxes,” says a Calgary resident we’ll call Joe. “As an accidental American, I’m outraged that a foreign government is going after me for the fact my Canadian parents had me in the U.S. and only stayed there for a few short months.”
  • Tina Turner becoming Swiss citizen, giving up US passport

    01/25/2013 9:03:36 AM PST · by SeekAndFind · 67 replies
    Fox News ^ | 01/25/2013
    What Gerard Depardieu is to France, Tina Turner may be to the United States. The "Private Dancer" singer is giving up her US passport, in favor of a Swiss one. "I'm very happy in Switzerland and I feel at home here. ... I cannot imagine a better place to live," Turner told the German newspaper Blick. Turner has lived in the Zurich suburb of Kuesnacht since the mid-1990s. The local Zuerichsee-Zeitung newspaper said on its website the local council announced its decision to grant the 73-year-old Turner citizenship in an official notice published in Friday's edition. The decision still requires...
  • Fleeing California Taxes? Get In Line (Leaving is not that easy)

    01/21/2013 7:24:08 PM PST · by SeekAndFind · 63 replies
    Forbes ^ | 01/16/2013 | Robert W. Wood
    Is it any wonder that many small and medium sized businesses are moving out of California? In the recent elections, California Voters Sock It To The Rich. As the Wall Street Journal noted, some are promising businesses a better life elsewhere. Being courted must be refreshing but it is important for a company and its owners to have reasonable expectations and to budget for drilling down into California’s rules. After all, leaving is not always easy. A California resident is anyone in the state for other than a temporary or transitory purpose. See FTB Publication 1031. Plus, it includes anyone...
  • I Want To Retire In Costa Rica

    11/09/2012 6:00:52 PM PST · by kjam22 · 139 replies
    vanity | 11-9-2012 | kjam22
    Anyone know anything about retiring in Costa Rica?
  • OT: Best places overseas to work/retire? (Mediterranean vs Argentina/Chile/Brazil/Nicaragua/Panama?)

    11/08/2012 1:34:19 PM PST · by Javeth · 74 replies
    Just curious especially to hear from anyone else who’s planning to do this, about the best countries overseas to retire and work in. My wife and I have done pretty well with our import/export business, worked hard and saved up, and are starting to make retirement plans. We’re not much enthused about giving out our hard-earned and saved money, to support the spendthrift socialist incompetence and excesses of Obama and his successors. So we’re looking to retire abroad, and if possible to even continue some of the business overseas in a lower key, part time context. Our trading is mostly...
  • Relocation site sought (vanity)

    11/08/2012 7:33:31 AM PST · by swift15 · 72 replies
    Now that the election has been completed, I know that I need to relocate. I am recently retired and I will sell my townhouse and move from Northern VA. But I haven’t yet narrowed the field of possible locations very much. GF and I have been entertaining the idea of purchasing a piece of rural property and constructing our own house. But we really want to be among conservative-minded folks. We have been actively reading this site for a long time and always appreciate the opinions of those involved. I would like to have as many opinions and suggestions about...
  • Freeper Advice needed, I'd like to move out of Pennsylvania, Texas looks good

    11/07/2012 1:17:12 PM PST · by Nowhere Man · 83 replies
    Myself | 11-07-2012 | Nowhere Man
    I'd consider other Red areas too.
  • Great ExPat Options Where are they? Costa Rica? Others?

    11/07/2012 2:10:02 PM PST · by NoLibZone · 109 replies
    Nov 7 2012 | NLZ
    I desire to explore options for relocation away from the US. Countries to live in. Transferring funds. What are some expat Freepers experiences and tips and tricks? Thank You.
  • Live, Retire Like A King In The Philippines

    12/27/2011 2:49:13 PM PST · by 2ndDivisionVet · 135 replies
    Living In The Philippines ^ | December 2011 | Don Herrington
    How Can You Retire in the Philippines Like a King on US$1,000 per month? What is Living Like A King to me? What a king is to one man is like a pauper to another. I feel like I am living like a king here in the Philippines and have been since I came here because of the kindness of the people. And my small income seem like a kingly fortune too. In the States at fifty years old I was treated like an old man and I guess I was. I felt like one. No one smiled at me,...
  • The Best Places in the World to Retire (For less than $2,000 a month. 2012 Edition)

    01/30/2012 2:08:43 PM PST · by SeekAndFind · 49 replies
    01/26/12 If you had $20,000 a month to retire on — you could live lavishly pretty much anywhere on the planet. But we’re interested in the places where you can live that lifestyle on one-tenth the budget…Places where you can have a maid clean for you…hire a gardener… wake up to a view…have great health care, eat well, enjoy the finer things in life — for less than $2,000 a month. You may be surprised how many there are…Months ago, our far-flung editors and in-country advisers began collecting all the data and details that inform our annual Retirement Index.To...
  • Meet The Growing Number Of Americans Who Want To Move Abroad

    11/10/2011 8:11:16 PM PST · by Niuhuru · 106 replies
    Business Insider ^ | Nov. 8, 2011, 5:21 PM | Abby Rogers and Gus Lubin
    A growing number of Americans is thinking about turning expat, according to a survey by America Wave and Zogby International. The share of Americans planning to relocate increased to 2.5 percent from 0.8 percent in 2009. If this number describes the entire population, that means around 6 million Americans are planning on leaving the country. America Wave's Bob Adams (a Business Insider contributor) found that single people, political conservatives and men were more likely to be in this group.
  • US nationals warned of possible reprisal attacks

    05/02/2011 5:51:28 AM PDT · by EBH · 8 replies
    ArabNews.com ^ | 5/2/11 | GHAZANFAR ALI KHAN
    RIYADH: The US Embassy in Riyadh has issued a new alert warning American citizens traveling and residing abroad of possible anti-American violence following the killing of Osama Bin Laden, who was hunted as the mastermind behind the worst terrorist attack on the US soil. Other Western embassies have asked their staffers and their citizens to remain vigilant, but have not upgraded or renewed the security advisory. "Given the uncertainty and volatility of the current situation, US citizens in areas where recent events could cause anti-American violence are strongly urged to limit their travel outside of their homes and hotels and...
  • Retirees Find Peace And Prosperity Far Away

    03/21/2011 1:53:28 PM PDT · by expat_panama · 37 replies · 1+ views
    "When you move to a foreign country, it's like being reborn," said Sholtis, who once worked as associate director of media resources at Rockefeller University in New York. "Everything is new; it really stimulates your mind."[snip]Then again, good medical care in many popular retirement spots is so affordable, Medicare runs often aren't necessary, according to travel researchers and Americans living abroad.Eight hospitals in Mexico are accredited by the Joint Commission International, a not-for-profit group that helps set quality and safety standards at hospitals and other health facilities.Besides Mexico, AARP includes Panama, Costa Rica, Belize, Nicaragua, Portugal, Spain, southwestern France and...
  • Living Abroad by Country: The Essential Expatriate Resources

    11/05/2010 4:09:35 PM PDT · by combat_boots · 3 replies
    Transitions abroad ^ | (Ongoing) | Unknown
    The number of Americans living abroad has steadily grown over the past decade, as more people have become interested in living abroad, exploring another language and culture, or finding an overseas job. According to recent estimates by the U.S. State Department, there are 6.6 million Americans living overseas, a little more than the entire population of the state of Massachusetts. Faced with the numerous challenges of adapting to a new way of life in a foreign country, the best tool for expatriates is to be well informed about their host country and to know how to deal with the various...
  • Explosion In Number of U.S. Expats Renouncing Citizenship

    04/26/2010 11:20:03 AM PDT · by Patriot1259 · 20 replies · 799+ views
    TheCypressTimes.com ^ | 04/26/2010 | John G. Winder
    Excessive taxation blamed - The National Center for Policy Analysis is reporting today that the number of U.S. expatriates turning in their U.S. Passports is rising dramatically. According to U.S. government records, 502 expatriates renounced their U.S. citizenship (or permanent residency) in the fourth quarter of 2009. This is more than double the number of expatriates renouncing U.S. citizenship in all of 2008.
  • More American Expatriates Give Up Citizenship

    04/25/2010 10:56:23 PM PDT · by The Magical Mischief Tour · 35 replies · 1,487+ views
    NY Times ^ | 04/26/2010 | NY Times
    WASHINGTON — Amid mounting frustration over taxation and banking problems, small but growing numbers of overseas Americans are taking the weighty step of renouncing their citizenship. “What we have seen is a substantial change in mentality among the overseas community in the past two years,” said Jackie Bugnion, director of American Citizens Abroad, an advocacy group based in Geneva. “Before, no one would dare mention to other Americans that they were even thinking of renouncing their U.S. nationality. Now, it is an openly discussed issue.”
  • More Americans Give Up Citizenship As IRS Gets Aggressive Overseas

    04/09/2010 11:47:25 AM PDT · by Rodebrecht · 70 replies · 3,003+ views
    Dow Jones Newswire ^ | 4-9-2010 | Martin Vaughan
    The number of American citizens and green-card holders severing their ties with the U.S. soared in the latter part of 2009, amid looming U.S. tax increases and a more aggressive posture by the Internal Revenue Service towards Americans living overseas. According to public records, just over 500 people worldwide renounced U.S. citizenship or permanent residency in the fourth quarter of 2009, the most recent period for which data are available. That is more people than have cut ties with the U.S. during all of 2007, and more than double the total expatriations in 2008. An Ohio-born entrepreneur, now based in Switzerland, told Dow...
  • ‘Going Galt’: Everyone’s Doing It!

    03/21/2010 5:21:53 PM PDT · by RedDogzRule · 77 replies · 2,985+ views
    New York Times ^ | 03/06/2009 | Eric Etheridge
    So, what happens when the heart surgeons, dentists, litigators, and people who employ 10 or 20 other people in their mid-size businesses decide that they don’t want to pay for the excessive, pointless spending that the president finds so compelling? Instapundit speculates on people “going John Galt.” I think golf — a time-intensive sport that the hard-working have eschewed for the past decade or two because it took too long — will make a comeback.
  • The Departure: A Conservative Exodus to Costa Rica?

    03/28/2009 7:49:31 AM PDT · by AJKauf · 172 replies · 3,831+ views
    Pajamas Media ^ | March 28 | Adam Graham
    Dallas Morning News columnist Rod Dreher may have to fly to Costa Rica if he wants to see some of his friends. In one of his recent blogs, Dreher told of multiple people discussing potential moves to Costa Rica if things go downhill. These aren’t people who are eager to join Paulville. Rather, these are normal, middle-class conservatives who are considering moving to Costa Rica if the country goes downhill under President Obama. One of the commenters on Dreher’s blog asked if this was not unlike liberals throwing a fit in 2004 and threatening to leave if Bush won. Not...
  • Offshore Opponent's Secret Offshore Adventures (Charlie Rangel alert)

    09/19/2008 10:14:38 AM PDT · by SeattleTiger · 7 replies · 543+ views
    Excerpt from article (since I am not sure what the reprint rules are ... [Rangel] slipped this horrendous tax into a popular military and veterans pension/pay bill, (without hearings or public notice) and on June 4, 2008, President Bush, not wanting to upset the veterans' lobby, signed it into law. The Rangel exit tax presumes that anyone who ends his or her U.S. citizenship and; (1) who paid more than $124,000 in net taxes for the previous five years, or (2) has a net worth of more than $2 million, is a tax traitor who did so with the intent...
  • straighten out an expat idi*t

    07/05/2006 8:02:08 PM PDT · by megimmie · 5 replies · 216+ views
    BBC apologises for Gerry Anderson's anti Bush remark Radio Ulster has had to apologise for Gerry Anderson’s aside that George Bush could rot in hell on his birthday (tomorrow as it happens). Hmmm anti Americanism gone mad? Biased BBC has already got hold of it, so I imagine it’s half way round the US blogosphere already! Update: You can hear the original broadcast here. More reaction here. And you can hear the original here or here on Slugger.
  • Thoughts on moving to the Phillippines

    09/10/2005 7:19:58 AM PDT · by daviddennis · 39 replies · 2,140+ views
    Self | 09/10/2005 | David H Dennis
    I'd like to know what freepers think of the idea of moving to the Phillippines (or a similar country) to take a break from the rat race and use the low cost of living to be able to work on my own projects. This is not retirement, in other words, but it's not precisely holding a job. I want to do something with my life that I create and am in charge of instead of working for others. My best guess is that this would be a web-based business that could be run from anywhere in the world. If I...
  • Mexican migrants could vote from U.S.

    06/29/2005 7:07:15 AM PDT · by John Filson · 3 replies · 364+ views
    Miami Herald (AP report) ^ | Wed, Jun. 29, 2005 | WILL WEISSERT
    Posted on Wed, Jun. 29, 2005 MEXICO Mexican migrants could vote from U.S. Mexican lawmakers approved absentee voting for millions of migrants living abroad. An estimated 11 million Mexicans live overseas, most in the United States. BY WILL WEISSERT Associated Press MEXICO CITY - Lawmakers overwhelming approved on Tuesday a law allowing millions of Mexicans living abroad to vote by mail in next year's presidential election -- a measure that could reshape the country's leadership race. To chants of ''Viva Mexico,'' the lower house of Congress passed an absentee voting proposal by a margin of 455 to 6 with six...
  • For Varied Reasons, 4 Million Americans Call Some Other Country Home

    04/23/2005 10:19:48 AM PDT · by Cagey · 30 replies · 837+ views
    AP ^ | 4-23-2005 | Jerry Schwartz
    More Americans than ever before have decided that America is no longer their home. They've put down roots abroad, from Cuba (an estimated 2,000 Americans, the latest figures show) to the United Kingdom (224,000). They're in Germany (210,880), in the Philippines (105,000), in Israel (184,195). If they were a U.S. state - call it Expatria - its population, some 4 million Americans, would place it right in the middle, along with Kentucky and South Carolina. Expatriates, citizens of this floating, far-flung state, are changing the very definition of "American." "What does nationality really mean in these days, in these times...
  • Betrayed by Europe: An Expatriate’s Lament

    01/09/2005 1:34:46 PM PST · by Lorianne · 36 replies · 1,586+ views
    Truth Victorious ^ | November 29, 2003 | Nidra Poller
    is not so easy to know when you’re deluding yourself and when you are finally seeing the light. When I look back at my reasons for leaving the United States for France in 1972, some seem to me as outmoded—and, in retrospect, as endearing—as Beatles haircuts and Vietnam-war protests. Others stubbornly persist. In any event, my career as a serious American novelist having been short-circuited, I opted for the improbable exploit of becoming a writer in French and a professional translator, and I succeeded. I am long settled in Paris; the three youngsters I brought there, tucked under my free-flying...
  • Hurdles Remain for American Voters Who Live Overseas - for military and familes (myballot.mil)

    09/28/2004 11:57:55 PM PDT · by Cincinatus' Wife · 3 replies · 195+ views
    New York Times ^ | September 29, 2004 | Michael Moss
    our years after overseas voting became a battleground in the presidential election in Florida, millions of civilians and soldiers living abroad still face a bewildering and unwieldy system of absentee balloting that could prevent their votes from being counted. Election officials concede that tens of thousands of Americans overseas might not get ballots in time to cast votes. Late primaries and legal wrangling caused election offices in at least 8 of the 15 swing states to fail to mail absentee ballots by Sept. 19, a cutoff date officials say is necessary to ensure that they can be returned on time,...
  • At least 6 Westerners killed in Saudi Yanbu Oil Terminal Compound

    05/01/2004 6:08:58 AM PDT · by kinghorse · 26 replies · 436+ views
    debka.com ^ | 4/30/04 | DebkaFile
    Saudi interior ministry reports shooting-car bomb attack Saturday on unidentified compound in Red Sea port of Yanbu. Unconfirmed details of at least 6 Westerners killed in six-hour attacks – 2 Britons, 1 American, 1 Australian and possibly 1 Italian – one outside a hotel. British chairman of local oil company reports 17 killed when gunmen drove from industrial area to downtown firing all the way. DEBKAfile adds: Still not clear if attack targeted Yanbu’s big oil terminal, main Saudi oil export outlet to the West. If so, it would be first time Saudi oil resources were struck by terrorists exactly...
  • When in Rome, plan to go home

    08/29/2003 7:05:07 AM PDT · by dogbrain · 17 replies · 238+ views
    arts.telegraph.uk ^ | 27/08/2003 | unknown
    A holiday in Italy can make you wish you lived there - but the reality, says Sebastian Cresswell-Turner, is that it's a land of almost unbridled anarchy "How lucky you are to be living in Italy." "That must be heaven." "I do envy you." If you live in Rome, as I do, you get used to comments like these. But you soon realise that the idyllic vision of Italy suffers from just one drawback: it is almost complete rubbish. Rome: unbridled anarchy For the first few months after you move here, all is indeed perfect. The sun is warm, the...
  • vanity thread - FReeper wants advice on expatriation

    08/26/2003 1:28:37 AM PDT · by natewill · 11 replies · 229+ views
    Maybe some of you worldly, travelled FReepers can give your nickels' worth of free advice. I am seriously thinking of expatriation. So far I have started research on New Zealand and Philippines. I speak English only, don't have too much money (enough for plane fare and a couple of months of living), am not married and do not have kids. My goal is to find a place where the nanny laws and taxes aren't as high, and the culture is less commercial and more easy-going. HELP!
  • vanity thread: Reed has me thinking

    08/19/2003 11:07:55 PM PDT · by natewill · 6 replies · 189+ views
    FredOnEverything ^ | Fred Reed, et al
    Expatriates. You see them in back-street bars of Bangkok, Manila, Guadalajara, along third-world waterfronts, in up-country Thailand, anywhere living is cheap and rules scarce. Some are old guys in their sixties and seventies with fading tattoos from other lives, lives that also fade into fewer and fewer living memories. Some are in their thirties and run little businesses, often legitimate. They are a bit rough-looking or maybe just eccentric, congenitally what they are and not concerned about what you think of them. You find them heisting a brewski in out-of-the-way spots, chaffing with the barmaids who maybe or may not...