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  • A rabbi, an imam and pastor will conduct Sunday service at Coral Gables church

    10/21/2014 8:47:41 PM PDT · 52 of 52
    OneWingedShark to caww
    You’ve likely bitten into the Agenda that’s pushing this or you wouldn’t have erred so greatly in your misuse of scripture references. You need to pay attention to ‘who’ Jesus was speaking to.
    I say again....Jesus called them snakes and vipers....then he walked away from them after pronouncing many Woes. I’m sure you know where to go to read this.
    Islam is poison and it will poison any church who unties with it....which it’s already doing. Anyone who thinks otherwise is worse than a fool.

    I think we're talking past each other: I said nothing about uniting with Islam — my point is this: as Christians we need to be actively involved in the world, as James put it faith without works is dead. Jesus said it as well, besides the great commission, he said: I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.

    But, I'm most interested in your accusation: that I have erred in my use of scripture. — keeping in mind that I was saying that we should evangelize other faiths, proclaiming Jesus to them, please show me where and how.

  • A rabbi, an imam and pastor will conduct Sunday service at Coral Gables church

    10/21/2014 8:36:39 PM PDT · 51 of 52
    caww to OneWingedShark

    You’ve likely bitten into the Agenda that’s pushing this or you wouldn’t have erred so greatly in your misuse of scripture references. You need to pay attention to ‘who’ Jesus was speaking to.

    I say again....Jesus called them snakes and vipers....then he walked away from them after pronouncing many Woes. I’m sure you know where to go to read this.

    Islam is poison and it will poison any church who unties with it....which it’s already doing. Anyone who thinks otherwise is worse than a fool.

  • Summary of how conservative Catholics made sure the leftists were stopped

    10/21/2014 8:36:33 PM PDT · 18 of 18
    annalex to Kennard; Carry_Okie

    Catholic traditionalism dates back as long as you want to trace it back, even, like Carrie does, to times before the Incarnation; I only chose the Crusades because that is a relevant point in modern politics. But “Catholic” and “modern” should never be in the same sentence, and I spoke of modern conservatism. The latter is heavily laced with laissez-faire, which makes it a defensive phenomenon.

  • Kasper Makes More Threats

    10/21/2014 8:35:28 PM PDT · 5 of 5
    NKP_Vet to NKP_Vet

    If Benedict were still pope and caught his right-hand man lying through his teeth about discrediting other bishops he would have kicked him straight out of the Vatican and never had anything to do with him again. But this is Francis, just an old liberal and liberals stick together, and that’s why Kaspar ain’t going anywhere. By the way Benedict despises the leftist Kaspar and has called him on the carpet more than once. And as far as the creepy leftist that added all that garbage about homosexuals in the report, well word is Francis will probably make Bruno Forte prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith. Cardinal Muller is too conservative for Francis.
    One thing is certain, as long as Francis remains pope he will surround himself with liberal cardinals.

  • Kasper Makes More Threats

    10/21/2014 8:34:44 PM PDT · 4 of 5
    E. Pluribus Unum to marshmallow

    Frances needs to follow Ratzinger’s example and become pope emeritus.

  • Why would anyone become Catholic?

    10/21/2014 8:33:17 PM PDT · 2,925 of 2,925
    af_vet_1981 to terycarl
    Luther kind of started the slide from the truth of Catholicism down to the error of protestantism

    I find it ironic how some who purport to be deeply troubled by the deaths of heretics have chosen Luther as their captain, nor the lack of mention of all the Catholics who were killed primarily for being Catholic. Luther Favored the Death Penalty for Anabaptists

    Here are the documented facts:

    Luther sanctioned capital punishment for doctrinal heresy most notably in his Commentary on the 82nd Psalm (vol. 13, pp. 39-72 in the 55-volume set, Luther's Works, edited by Jaroslav Pelikan et al), written in 1530, where he advocated the following:
    A question arises in connection with these three verses [Psalm 82]. Since the gods, or rulers, beside their other virtues, are to advance God’s Word and its preachers, are they also to put down opposing doctrines or heresies, since no one can be forced to believe? The answer to this question is as follows: First, some heretics are seditious and teach openly that no rulers are to be tolerated; that no Christian may occupy a position of rulership; that no one ought to have property of his own but should run away from wife and child and leave house and home; or that all property shall be held in common. These teachers are immediately, and without doubt, to be punished by the rulers, as men who are resisting temporal law and government (Rom. 13:1, 2). They are not heretics only but rebels, who are attacking the rulers and their government, just as a thief attacks another’s goods, a murderer another’s body, an adulterer another’s wife; and this is not to be tolerated. Second. If some were to teach doctrines contradicting an article of faith clearly grounded in Scripture and believed throughout the world by all Christendom, such as the articles we teach children in the Creed—for example, if anyone were to teach that Christ is not God, but a mere man and like other prophets, as the Turks and the Anabaptists hold—such teachers should not be tolerated, but punished as blasphemers. For they are not mere heretics but open blasphemers; and rulers are in duty bound to punish blasphemers as they punish those who curse, swear, revile, abuse, defame, and slander. With their blasphemy such teachers defame the name of God and rob their neighbor of his honor in the eyes of the world. In like manner, the rulers should also punish—or certainly not tolerate—those who teach that Christ did not die for our sins, but that everyone shall make his own satisfaction for them. For that, too, is blasphemy against the Gospel and against the article we pray in the Creed: “I believe in the forgiveness of sins” and “in Jesus Christ, dead and risen.” Those should be treated in the same way who teach that the resurrection of the dead and the life everlasting are nothing, that there is no hell, and like things, as did the Sadducees and the Epicureans, of whom many are now arising among the great wiseacres.
    By this procedure no one is compelled to believe, for he can still believe what he will; but he is forbidden to teach and to blaspheme. For by so doing he would take from God and the Christians their doctrine and word, and he would do them this injury under their own protection and by means of the things all have in common. Let him go to some place where there are no Christians. For, as I have often said: He who makes a living from the citizens ought to keep the law of the city, and not defame and revile it; or else he ought to get out. We are told that when the holy fathers at the Council of Nicea heard the doctrine of the Arians read, all hissed unanimously, and would not listen or permit any argument or defense but condemned them out of hand, without disputation, as blasphemers. Moses in his Law commands that such blasphemers and indeed all false teachers should be stoned (Lev. 24:16). So, in this case, there ought not to be much disputing; but such open blasphemers should be condemned without a hearing and without defense, as Paul commands (Titus 3:10): “A heretic is to be avoided and let go, after he has been admonished once or twice”; and he forbids Timothy to wrangle and dispute, since this has no effect, except to pervert those who hear (1 Tim. 6:20). For these common articles of all Christendom have had hearing enough. They have been proved and decreed by the Scriptures and by the confession of the whole church, confirmed by many miracles, and sealed by the blood of many holy martyrs. They are testified to and defended in the books of all the doctors. They need no more discussion and clever interpretation.

    (Luther's Works [LW], Vol. 13, 61-62; bolding added)

    Is this merely my interpretation of his words and thoughts? Hardly. The famous Luther biographer Roland Bainton wrote:

    In 1530 Luther advanced the view that two offences should be penalized even with death, namely sedition and blasphemy. The emphasis was thus shifted from incorrect belief to its public manifestation by word and deed. This was, however, no great gain for liberty, because Luther construed mere abstention from public office and military service as sedition and a rejection of an article of the Apostles' Creed as blasphemy.

    In a memorandum of 1531, composed by Melanchthon and signed by Luther, a rejection of the ministerial office was described as insufferable blasphemy, and the disintegration of the Church as sedition against the ecclesiastical order. In a memorandum of 1536, again composed by Melanchthon and signed by Luther, the distinction between the peaceful and the revolutionary Anabaptists was obliterated . . .

    Melanchthon this time argued that even the passive action of the Anabaptists in rejecting government, oaths, private property, and marriages outside the faith was itself disruptive of the civil order and therefore seditious. The Anabaptist protest against the punishment of blasphemy was itself blasphemy. The discontinuance of infant baptism would produce a heathen society and separation from the Church, and the formation of sects was an offense against God.

    Luther may not have been too happy about signing these memoranda. At any rate he appended postscripts to each. To the first he said,

    I assent. Although it seems cruel to punish them with the sword, it is crueler that they condemn the ministry of the Word and have no well-grounded doctrine and suppress the true and in this way seek to subvert the civil order.

    . . . In 1540 he is reported in his Table Talk to have returned to the position of Philip of Hesse that only seditious Anabaptists should be executed; the others should be merely banished. But Luther passed by many an opportunity to speak a word for those who with joy gave themselves as sheep for the slaughter.

    . . . For the understanding of Luther's position one must bear in mind that Anabaptism was not in every instance socially innocuous. The year in which Luther signed the memorandum counseling death even for the peaceful Anabaptists was the year in which a group of them ceases to be peaceful . . . By forcible measures they took over the city of Munster in Westphalia . . .

    Yet when all these attenuating considerations are adduced, one cannot forget that Melanchthon's memorandum justified the eradication of the peaceful, not because they were incipient and clandestine revolutionaries, but on the ground that even a peaceful renunciation of the state itself constituted sedition.

    (Here I Stand: A Life of Martin Luther, New York: Mentor, 1950, 295-296; bolding added)

    Luther signed his name in assent to the 1536 pamphlet written by Philip Melanchthon (noted by biographer Bainton above), in which Melanchthon wrote:

    That seditious articles of doctrine should be punished with the sword needed no further proof. For the rest, the Anabaptists hold tenets relating to infant baptism, original sin, and inspiration which have no connection with the Word of God, and are indeed opposed to it. . . . Concerning such tenets, this is our answer : As the secular authorities are bound to control and punish open blasphemy, so they are also bound to restrain and punish avowedly false doctrine, irregular Church services and heresies in their own dominions; for this is commanded by God in the other commandment where He says : "Whoso dishonours God's name shall not go unpunished." Everybody is bound, according to his position and office, to prevent and check blasphemy, and by virtue of this command the princes and magistrates have power and authority to put a stop to irregular Church worship. The text in Leviticus xxiv. goes to show the same thing : "He that blasphemeth the name of the Lord, he shall surely be put to death." The ruling authorities, however, must suffer themselves to be property and correctly instructed in order that they may be certain how to proceed, and that nobody may do wrong. Now there are some among these articles of faith which signify very much. For think what disaster would ensue if children were not baptized; what would be the final outcome but thoroughly heathenish existence? Item, infant baptism rests on such sure foundations that the Anabaptists have no legitimate grounds for rejecting it. Item, if they say that children do not need forgiveness of sins, that there is no original sin, such statements are downright and very dangerous errors. Besides this the Anabaptists separate themselves from the churches, even in those places where pure Christian doctrine prevails, and where the abuses and idolatrous practices have been abolished, and they set up a ministry and congregation of their own, which is also contrary to the command of God. From all this it becomes clear that the secular authorities are bound to suppress blasphemy, false doctrine, and heresy, and to inflict corporal punishment on the offenders. In the case of Anabaptist tenets which are opposed to the secular government the matter is easier to deal with ; for there is no doubt that in such cases the stiffnecked recalcitrants are sure to be punished as sedition-mongers. Also when it is a case of only upholding some spiritual tenet, such as infant baptism, original sin, and unnecessary separation, then, because these articles are also important. . . we conclude that in these cases also the stubborn sectaries must be put to death.

    (cited in Johannes Janssen, History of the German People From the Close of the Middle Ages, 16 volumes, translated by A.M. Christie, St. Louis: B. Herder, 1910 [orig. 1891]; Vol. X, 222-223; bolding added)

    Reformed anti-Catholic Presbyterian polemicist James Swan (who writes a lot about Luther) provided further information:

    Janssen documents the quote as "the [injunction] of 1536 (published in the Zeitschr für histor. theol. xxviii [1538], p. 560 ff." This refers to Zeitschrift für die historische Theologie, Volume 28. Page 560 can be found here. What's being referred to is a document drawn up by Melanchthon entitled, Ob christliche fürsten schsind, der Wiedertäufer unchristliche Sect mit leiblicher Strafe und mit dem Schwert zu wehren, or, Das Weltiche Oberkeitt den Widertafferen mit leiblicher, Straff zu weren schuldig sey / Etlicher Bedenken zu Wittenberg, which can be found in WA 50: 6-15.

    The person who denied this has been urging others to now "ignore" and "forget" Luther because he has been dead for 450 years and his life "shouldn't mean a thing."

    I found this to be a quite curious and surprising development, since a search on that site revealed that he had talked about Luther in posts 96 times in the last 42 days, for an average of 2.29 times a day. In the same time period he mentioned our Lord Jesus only 58 times, faith 43 times, and the Bible 25 times. Aren't search engines a load of fun?

    Utterly unable to resist (due to the incorrigible influence of Malcolm Muggeridge and G.K. Chesterton) the inherent and rather spectacular comedic possibilities of this turn of events, I wrote:

    One can readily see, then, what a revolution this newfound realization will be in [so-and-so's] day-to-day life. Luther has nothing to do with one's faith; should be forgotten and ignored, yet he has talked about him in the last six weeks more than twice as much as "faith" and almost twice as much as Jesus, and nearly four times as much as the Holy Bible. He mentioned him ten times yesterday alone, or almost four times more than his average frequency. So this will be quite a change. Just in time for Lent . . .

    People have tried to discredit my Luther research before, with the same dismal and semi-humorous result.

  • A rabbi, an imam and pastor will conduct Sunday service at Coral Gables church

    10/21/2014 8:28:38 PM PDT · 50 of 52
    lakecumberlandvet to Gamecock

    Try as they may, oil (islam) and water (Christian/Jewish) do not mix.

  • Letting Christ — Not Confusion — Reign

    10/21/2014 8:28:07 PM PDT · 21 of 21
    SumProVita to Arthur McGowan

    You have not really answered my question. The Pope did not slander anyone. He spoke the truth, positive and negative about everyone...VERY much like what we read in the Scriptures. The four minute standing ovation he received for so doing was an indication of the movement of the Spirit.

  • Why would anyone become Catholic?

    10/21/2014 8:27:26 PM PDT · 2,924 of 2,925
    Torahman to af_vet_1981

    Luther had a good teacher: Rome.

  • Without a Vision(Catholic Spiritual Commentary on the Synod)

    10/21/2014 8:26:22 PM PDT · 12 of 12
    Torahman to Petrosius

    You may know the Catholic teachings but you do not know or understand the bible. Don’t be afraid of leaving Rome. It will fall into the pit with all other man centered religions. You still have time to walk with the Messiah. He is not going there. He is going to Jerusalem.

  • Why would anyone become Catholic?

    10/21/2014 8:21:14 PM PDT · 2,923 of 2,925
    boatbums to af_vet_1981

    Nope! I respect our moderators too much to argue or question their judgment regarding the warnings they issue. My question to you still stands unanswered, though.

  • Kasper Makes More Threats

    10/21/2014 8:20:24 PM PDT · 3 of 5
    NKP_Vet to marshmallow

    Francis is the main culprit and Kaspar is his wingman. No one should think for one minute that Francis was not charge of every thing that happened at the Synod.

  • Why would anyone become Catholic?

    10/21/2014 8:19:56 PM PDT · 2,922 of 2,925
    metmom to onedoug

    WHY would we need to pray that the reunion is as wonderful as God can make it?

    Couldn’t GOD come up with the idea all on His own?

  • Why would anyone become Catholic?

    10/21/2014 8:17:35 PM PDT · 2,921 of 2,925
    onedoug to metmom

    There is a hint of it in Genesis 49:29....

    “And when Jacob made an end of charging his sons, he gathered up his feet unto the bed, and expired, and was gathered to his people.”

    If we take that to mean the souls who had gone before, (which I believe), then it only makes sense to pray that that reunion be as wonderful as God can make it.

    At least to me.

  • Kasper Makes More Threats

    10/21/2014 8:16:31 PM PDT · 2 of 5
    Excellence to marshmallow

    It keeps getting worse.

  • Lecture by Dr. Adam Miller, Professor of Philosophy: 'Zombies, Vampires, and the Book of Mormon'

    10/21/2014 8:15:33 PM PDT · 18 of 18
    svcw to Elsie

    How can you be more right....do not know

  • Why would anyone become Catholic?

    10/21/2014 8:15:32 PM PDT · 2,920 of 2,925
    CynicalBear to terycarl

    If Catholics believe that is real blood then they portray that Jesus and the apostles broke the law.

  • Why would anyone become Catholic?

    10/21/2014 8:10:43 PM PDT · 2,919 of 2,925
    CynicalBear to af_vet_1981

    Well, he was a Catholic after all.

  • Summary of how conservative Catholics made sure the leftists were stopped

    10/21/2014 8:07:23 PM PDT · 17 of 18
    Kennard to annalex
    Modern conservatism is not truly Christian; it dates back to Hume and Locke, not to the Crusaders. Which may become our comeuppance if we don’t grow up.

    How so? Catholic traditionalism dates back to Pope Pius X's 1907 encyclical Pascendi Dominici Gregis. Political conservatism is secular.

  • Why would anyone become Catholic?

    10/21/2014 8:07:05 PM PDT · 2,918 of 2,925
    CynicalBear to Elsie
    >>Only $39.99 (plus applicable taxes and S&H) will reserve YOU an early entry into Heaven.<<

    I'd make that "only three payments of $19.95". It sounds less expensive.

  • Why would anyone become Catholic?

    10/21/2014 8:03:48 PM PDT · 2,916 of 2,925
    af_vet_1981 to RegulatorCountry
    So that's what inspired the yellow stars. All the screeching and assignations of blame directed at Martin Luther seem contrived in light of this.

    Martin Luther hated the Jews. He was a leader the Nazis admired and they implemented his recommendations.

    Extracts from Martin Luther's booklet: "THE JEWS AND THEIR LIES"

    "What then shall we Christians do with this damned, rejected race of Jews? Since they live among us, we dare not tolerate their conduct, now that we are aware of their lying and reviling and blaspheming. If we do, we become sharers in their lies, cursing and blasphemy. Thus we cannot extinguish the unquenchable fire of divine wrath, of which the prophets speak, nor can we convert the Jews. With prayer and the fear of God we must pratice a sharp mercy to see whether we might save at least a few from the glowing flames. We dare not avenge ourselves. Vengenance a thousand times worse than we could wish them already has them by the throat. I shall give you my sincere advice:

    > First to set fire to their synagogues or schools and to bury and cover with dirt whatever will not burn, so that no man will ever again see a stone or cinder of them. This is to be done in honor of our Lord and of Christendom, so that God might see that we are Christians, and do not condone or knowingly tolerate such public lying, cursing, and blaspheming of his Son and of his Christians. For whatever we tolerated in the past unknowingly—and I myself was unaware of it—will be pardoned by God. But if we, now that we are informed, were to protect and shield such a house for the Jews, existing right before our very nose, in which they lie about, blaspheme, curse, vilify, and defame Christ and us (as was heard above), it would be the same as if we were doing all this and even worse ourselves, as we very well know.

    Second, I advise that their houses also be razed and destroyed. For they pursue in them the same aims as in their synagogues. Instead they might be lodged under a roof or in a barn, like the gypsies. This will bring home to them that they are not masters in our country, as they boast, but that they are living in exile and in captivity, as they incessantly wail and lament about us before God.

    Third, I advise that all their prayer books and Talmudic writings, in which such idolatry, lies, cursing and blasphemy are taught, be taken from them. . . .

    Fourth, I advise that their rabbis be forbidden to teach henceforth on pain of loss of life and limb. For they have justly forfeited the right to such an office by holding the poor Jews captive with the saying of Moses (Deuternomy 17 [:10 ff.]) in which he commands them to obey their teachers on penalty of death, although Moses clearly adds: "what they teach you in accord with the Law of the Lord." Those villains ignore that. They wantonly employ the poor people's obedience contrary to the law of the Lord and infuse them with this poison, cursing, and blasphemy. In the same way the pope also held us captive with the declaration in Matthew 16 {:18], "You are Peter," etc, inducing us to believe all the lies and deceptions that issued from his devilish mind. He did not teach in accord with the Word of God, and therefore he forfeited the righ to teach.

    Fifth, I advise that safe-conduct on the highways be abolished completely for the Jews. For they have no business in the countryside, since they are not lords, officials, tradesmen, or the like. Let they stay at home. . . If you princes and nobles do not close the road legally to such exploiters, then some troop ought to ride against them, for they will learn from this pamphlet what the Jews are and how to handle them and that they ought not to be protected. You ought not, you cannot protect them, unless in the eyes of God you want to share all their abomination.

    Sixth, I advise that usury be prohibited to them, and that all cash and treasure of silver and gold be taken from them and put aside for safekeeping. The reason for such a measure is that, as said above, they have no other means of earning a livelihood than usury, and by it they have stolen and robbed from us all they possess. Such money should now be used in no other way than the following: Whenever a Jew is sincerely converted, he should be handed one hundred, two hundred, or three hundred florins, as personal circumstances may suggest. With this he could set himself up in some occupation for the support of his poor wife and children, and the maintenance of the old or feeble. For such evil gains are cursed if they are not put to use with God's blessing in a good and worthy cause.

    Seventh, I commend putting a flail, an ax, a hoe, a spade, a distaff, or a spindle into the hands of young, strong Jews and Jewesses and letting them earn their bread in the sweat of their brow, as was imposed on the children of Adam (Gen 3[:19]). For it is not fitting that they should let us accursed Goyim toil in the sweat of our faces while they, the holy people, idle away their time behind the stove, feasting and farting, and on top of all, boasting blasphemously of their lordship over the Christians by means of our sweat. No, one should toss out these lazy rogues by the seat of their pants."

    ***

    "But what will happen even if we do burn down the Jews' synagogues and forbid them publicly to praise God, to pray, to teach, to utter God's Name? They will still keep doing it in secret. If we know that they are doing this in secret, it is the same as if they were doing it publicly. For our knowledge of their secret doings and our toleration of them implies that they are not secret after all and thus our conscience is encumbered with it before God."

    ***

    Accordingly, it must and dare not be considered a trifling matter but a most serious one to seek counsel against this and to save our souls from the Jews, that is, from the devil and from eternal death. My advice, as I said earlier, is:

    First, that their synagogues be burned down, and that all who are able toss in sulphur and pitch; it would be good if someone could also throw in some hellfire. That would demonstrate to God our serious resolve and be evidence to all the world that it was in ignorance that we tolerated such houses, in which the Jews have reviled God, our dear Creator and Father, and his Son most shamefully up till now but that we have now given them their due reward."

    "To sum up, dear princes and nobles who have Jews in your domains, if this advice of mine does not suit you, then find a better one so that you and we may all be free of this insufferable devilish burden—the Jews . . ."

    "Let the government deal with them in this respect, as I have suggested. But whether the government acts or not, let everyone at least be guided by his own conscience and form for himself a definition or image of a Jew. When you lay eyes on or think of a Jew you must say to yourself: Alas, that mouth which I there behold has cursed and execrated and maligned every Saturday my dear Lord Jesus Christ, who has redeemed me with His precious blood; in addition, it prayed and pleaded before God that I, my wife and children, and all Christians might be stabbed to death and perish miserably. And he himself would gladly do this if he were able, in order to appropriate our goods . . ."

    "Such a desperate, thoroughly evil, poisonous, and devilish lot are these Jews, who for these fourteen hundred years have been and still are our plague, our pestilence, and our misfortune."

    "I have read and heard many stories about the Jews which agree with this judgment of Christ, namely, how they have poisoned wells, made assassinations, kidnapped children, as related before. I have heard that one Jew sent another Jew, and this by means of a Christian, a pot of blood, together with a of wine, in which when drunk empty, a dead Jew was found. There are many other similar stories. For their kidnapping of children they have often been burned at the stake or banished (as we already heard). I am well aware that they deny all of this. However, it all coincides with the judgment of Christ which declares that they are venomous, bitter, vindictive, tricky serpents, assassins, and children of the devil, who sting and work harm stealthily wherever they cannot do it openly. For this reason, I would like to see them where there are no Christians. The Turks and other heathen do not tolerate what we Christians endure from these venomous serpents and young devils . . . next to the devil, a Christian has no more bitter and galling foe than a Jew. There is no other to whom we accord as many benefactions and from whom we suffer as much as we do from these base children of the devil, this brood of vipers."

    ***

    "We are at fault for not slaying them."

    ***

    "I wish and I ask that our rulers who have Jewish subjects exercise a sharp mercy toward these wretched people, as suggested above, to see whether this might not help (though it is doubtful). They must act like a good physician who, when gangrene has set in, proceeds without mercy to cut, saw, and burn flesh, veins, bone, and marrow. Such a procedure must also be followed in this instance. Burn down their synagogues, forbid all that I enumerated earlier, force them to work, and deal harshly with them, as Moses did in the wilderness, slaying three thousand lest the whole people perish. They surely do not know what they are doing; moreover, as people possessed, they do not wish to know it, hear it, or learn it. There it would be wrong to be merciful and confirm them in their conduct. If this does not help we must drive them out like mad dogs, so that we do not become partakers of their abominable blasphemy and all their other vices and thus merit God's wrath and be damned with them. I have done my duty. Now let everyone see to his. I am exonerated."

  • Why would anyone become Catholic?

    10/21/2014 8:02:21 PM PDT · 2,915 of 2,925
    boatbums to Springfield Reformer; BlueDragon
    Churchill was right - History is written by the victors.

    When the writings, records, documents, Bibles and other information is used as kindling for pyres, whatever escapes such destruction is rarely found. The "victor" is then free to write himself into history as the hero and the vanquished, as the devil. How can we possibly trust what such heroes proclaim is the truth?

  • Summary of how conservative Catholics made sure the leftists were stopped

    10/21/2014 7:58:26 PM PDT · 16 of 18
    Carry_Okie to annalex
    Right. Modern conservatism is not truly Christian; it dates back to Hume and Locke, not to the Crusaders.

    Bacon.

  • Why would anyone become Catholic?

    10/21/2014 7:57:20 PM PDT · 2,914 of 2,925
    CynicalBear to terycarl
    >>sure He could have, but He chose the Catholic church as His messenger to do so.<<

    God also used Judas, Balaam's donkey, and many others who haven't been promised eternal life.

  • The Blessed Virgin's Guide to Catholic Modesty

    10/21/2014 7:56:34 PM PDT · 309 of 309
    infool7 to Elsie

    On a good day, I can convince myself that I was not confused for the entire day.

    Thank you for your kind comments that we may stand together, brothers in arms against our one true enemy and no it’s not gunner but I think you know who I’m talking about.

  • Why would anyone become Catholic?

    10/21/2014 7:54:50 PM PDT · 2,913 of 2,925
    metmom to terycarl; CynicalBear
    then why does the real bible tell us to pray for the dead???

    Show us where we are told to pray for the dead.

    Chapter and verse.

  • A rabbi, an imam and pastor will conduct Sunday service at Coral Gables church

    10/21/2014 7:54:32 PM PDT · 49 of 52
    OneWingedShark to caww
    Jesus didn’t preach to those who opposed Him....he called them snakes and a brood of vipers.

    Of course he preached to those who were opposed to him:

    (Romans 3:23)
    for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,

    (Romans 5:10)
    For if, while we were God's enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life!

    Since it was His death that reconciled us to Him, prior to the actual event all humanity was God's enemies. The Scripture says so.

    When you cannot identify the enemy...you will be deceived mightily by Him.

    (Ephesians 6:12)
    For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms.

    Part of Islam’s agenda is to infiltrate Christian churches.....and remarkably Churches are inviting them in! (Rather like Obama inviting all the nations here through immigration.)

    Paul said this:

    Some proclaim Christ from envy and rivalry, but others from goodwill. These proclaim Christ out of love, knowing that I have been put here for the defense of the gospel; the others proclaim Christ out of selfish ambition, not sincerely but intending to increase my suffering in my imprisonment. What does it matter? Just this, that Christ is proclaimed in every way, whether out of false motives or true; and in that I rejoice.

    Yes, and I will continue to rejoice,
    Was he foolish to rejoice that some were proclaiming Jesus with false motives?

    Or, perhaps you think that Darkness can overpower Light — Jesus said otherwise, and indeed called His disciples light:

    “You are the light of the world. A city built on a hill cannot be hid. No one after lighting a lamp puts it under the bushel basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all in the house. In the same way, let your light shine before others, so that they may see your good works and give glory to your Father in heaven.
    Or do you counsel that Christians should not invite the unsaved into their midst? If we utterly isolate ourselves, how can others see it and praise God?
    (John 13:35 — By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another)

    You pick up a poisonous snake, knowing full well it’s venom can kill, then you suffer when it strikes. Know with certainty that it will.

    Jesus smashed the snake's head, why are you concerned with the tail?

  • A rabbi, an imam and pastor will conduct Sunday service at Coral Gables church

    10/21/2014 7:53:22 PM PDT · 48 of 52
    Ancesthntr to Gamecock

    No real rabbi would enter a church to pray. Doing so outside of a different religion’s house of worship is another animal.

  • Why would anyone become Catholic?

    10/21/2014 7:52:48 PM PDT · 2,912 of 2,925
    CynicalBear to terycarl; Elsie
    You mean the Maccabees that admits it's not inspired by the Holy Spirit?

    In 2 Maccabees 15:38,39 CT, we read, "So these things being done with relation to Nicanor and from that time the city being possessed by the Hebrews, I also will here make an end of my narration. Which if I have done well and as it becometh the history, it is what I desired: but if not so perfectly, it must be pardoned me."

    Or do you think the Holy Spirit inspired "not so perfectly"?

    Then there is a contradiction with Catholic doctrine.

    In 2 Maccabees 12:43-46, we have the reference cited by the Catholic Church to support Purgatory. If one would read verses 40 through 46, he would learn that God killed these people because of idolatry. According to Catholicism, if you die in the state of mortal sin, which idolatry is, you'll go straight to Hell when you die! Therefore, according to Catholic doctrine, Judas Machabeus was WRONG in suggesting that the people should "pray for the dead, that they may be loosed from sins" (verse 46)!

    Is that the Maccabees you are talking about? If so, that's one messed up religion you got there.

  • The Synod and the Media: Culpable Naïveté or Shrewd Calculation?

    10/21/2014 7:50:35 PM PDT · 3 of 3
    Mrs. Don-o to marshmallow
    Shaw is a bright and experienced man.

    I'm still watching.

  • For I am the Blessed Karl & the End of Christendom (Ecumenical)

    10/21/2014 7:50:07 PM PDT · 12 of 12
    annalex to Pyro7480
    In Europe, World War One’s victors paved the way for Hitler and National Socialism, Stalin’s henchmen and East European Communism, Auschwitz and the gulag.

    It is such a relief to see this evident fact stated so clearly.

    He is wrong about nationalism. Where in Austro-Hungary especially did he see "desire for separateness"? Neither Germany nor Russia were nationalistic in that caricature sense: all the three losing powers were well-functioning multi-ethnic organisms. The initial reason for the war was the desire to deny Germany the leadership of Europe; part of the propaganda effort was to portray Germans as nationalistic man-eaters.

  • You Can’t Reform Islam Without Reforming Muslims

    10/21/2014 7:49:33 PM PDT · 30 of 30
    Capt. Tom to Jack Hydrazine
    You remove jihad from Islam you have no more Islam.

    Muhammed found that out after trying to convert people with a non threatening approach. Many years passed and he had only about a hundred or so converts.
    He then decided to draw the sword and took an : I am willing to kill and die for my faith are you willing to do that for your alleged beliefs. Submit to Islam or die.

    That Jihadi approach, backed up by violent confrontations and bullying worked.
    There are now about 1.7 BILLION Muslims on the planet. -Tom

  • Kasper Makes More Threats

    10/21/2014 7:48:02 PM PDT · 1 of 5
    marshmallow
    More "mercy" from the apostle of "mercy".
  • Daily Reflections with Oswald Chambers [October 21, 2014]

    10/21/2014 7:47:36 PM PDT · 5 of 5
    Alamo-Girl to Vision
    We have to be exceptional in the ordinary things of life, and holy on the ordinary streets, among ordinary people—and this is not learned in five minutes.

    Indeed. Thank you for this beautiful devotion!
  • The Synod and the Media: Culpable Naïveté or Shrewd Calculation?

    10/21/2014 7:44:49 PM PDT · 2 of 3
    Albion Wilde to marshmallow

    I’m going to go with “Shrewd Calculation” for $400, Alex.

  • Letting Christ — Not Confusion — Reign

    10/21/2014 7:44:34 PM PDT · 20 of 21
    yldstrk to pbear8

    What’s the point

  • Pope Francis, Barack Obama & The Rise of the Beta Male

    10/21/2014 7:40:39 PM PDT · 5 of 5
    yosephdaviyd to subterfuge

    I thought there was a word limit. It’s very long sorry.

  • A rabbi, an imam and pastor will conduct Sunday service at Coral Gables church

    10/21/2014 7:38:16 PM PDT · 47 of 52
    Harmless Teddy Bear to Gamecock
    A rabbi, an imam and pastor will conduct Sunday service at Coral Gables church

    Which one of them will be non-conductive?

  • Summary of how conservative Catholics made sure the leftists were stopped

    10/21/2014 7:38:10 PM PDT · 15 of 18
    annalex to Carry_Okie

    Right. Modern conservatism is not truly Christian; it dates back to Hume and Locke, not to the Crusaders. Which may become our comeuppance if we don’t grow up.

  • Pope Francis, Barack Obama & The Rise of the Beta Male

    10/21/2014 7:36:30 PM PDT · 4 of 5
    Arthur McGowan to yosephdaviyd

    Bishop James Malone of Youngstown was interviewed in the Philadelphia Catholic newspaper around 1986. He was asked whether, in view of the bishops’ support for civil disobedience in South Africa, he supported the pro-life rescue movement. His answer:

    “The situations are not comparable. Church teaching allows for civil disobedience when there is an intolerable situation.”

    Of course, more than one letter-writer in the next issue of the paper pointed out that Bishop Malone had logically implied that abortion is tolerable.

    Bishops like Malone, of course, are completely unprincipled me. He didn’t answer the question based on a moral principle, even though he tried to pretend to be doing so. If he had spoken honestly, as his mind REALLY worked, his answer would have been:

    “My leftist advisers tell me that we at the bishops’ conference do not support the pro-life rescue movement. So here’s an attempt to simulate a principled objection to the rescue movement: The situations are not comparable. Church teaching allows for civil disobedience when there is an intolerable situation.”

  • A rabbi, an imam and pastor will conduct Sunday service at Coral Gables church

    10/21/2014 7:34:46 PM PDT · 46 of 52
    caww to OneWingedShark

    Jesus din’t preach to those who opposed Him....he called them snakes and a brood of vipers.

    When you cannot identify the enemy...you will be deceived mightily by Him.

    Part of Islam’s agenda is to infiltrate Christian churches.....and remarkably Churches are inviting them in! (Rather like Obama inviting all the nations here through immigration.)

    You pick up a poisonous snake, knowing full well it’s venom can kill, then you suffer when it strikes. Know with certainty that it will.

  • Summary of how conservative Catholics made sure the leftists were stopped

    10/21/2014 7:34:27 PM PDT · 14 of 18
    Carry_Okie to annalex
    Comes naturally.

    Not according to the Boss. We are to go forth and teach all the Nations and immerse them in the ruach.

    See?

  • Letting Christ — Not Confusion — Reign

    10/21/2014 7:33:32 PM PDT · 19 of 21
    pbear8 to yldstrk

    No, but He tries us and helps us make correct decisions. He did tell us to pick up our cross and follow him, he never said it would be easy.

  • The Synod and the Media: Culpable Naïveté or Shrewd Calculation?

    10/21/2014 7:31:35 PM PDT · 1 of 3
    marshmallow
    There are two possible ways of explaining all this.

    One is that what happened in Rome was the product of extreme—and, in the circumstances, culpable—naïveté on the part the small group of synod participants and Vatican staff who were responsible for it. The other is that it arose from calculation, shrewd—one might almost say cynical—but self-defeating in the end, intended to present the bishops who weren’t part of this inner circle of would-be reformers with a fait accompli.In charity, I favor the first explanation—culpable naïveté—but others will see it differently.

    And I favor the second explanation.

  • Why would anyone become Catholic?

    10/21/2014 7:31:35 PM PDT · 2,911 of 2,925
    CynicalBear to terycarl

    Catholics live in a delusional world. Jesus chose lowly fishermen and even they could read and write.

  • A rabbi, an imam and pastor will conduct Sunday service at Coral Gables church

    10/21/2014 7:28:53 PM PDT · 45 of 52
    caww to Steelfish

    ...”Three-way contradiction”...

    Perfectly defined!

  • A rabbi, an imam and pastor will conduct Sunday service at Coral Gables church

    10/21/2014 7:28:53 PM PDT · 44 of 52
    caww to Fungi

    ...”So why is this church so stupid?”....

    Likely they’re one of those which preach a false “You gotta love everybody”... thinking if you love a Muslim they’ll love you back...when in fact you let the enemy in the door you’re going to convert to Islam one way or another because they’re taking names and numbers.

  • A rabbi, an imam and pastor will conduct Sunday service at Coral Gables church

    10/21/2014 7:28:53 PM PDT · 43 of 52
    caww to Gamecock

    ...” themed, “Pursuing Peace: A Common Path.”....

    The fact they mentioned ‘Peace’ says right off they haven’t a clue what they’re doing. In Islam there is only peace through Islam, so in a sense they’re agreeing. A Muslim would read that as “Pursing Islam:”...

  • Lecture by Dr. Adam Miller, Professor of Philosophy: 'Zombies, Vampires, and the Book of Mormon'

    10/21/2014 7:27:07 PM PDT · 17 of 18
    Elsie to laotzu
    This thread does not praise God. It weakens faith

    I can't help what those guys said in reply #13.

    They were Mormons...

  • Why would anyone become Catholic?

    10/21/2014 7:26:39 PM PDT · 2,910 of 2,925
    CynicalBear to terycarl
    >>I think I'd choose those that were there WHEN HE SAID HIS WORDS....but that's just me!!!<<

    So show us where "those that were there WHEN HE SAID HIS WORDS..." taught the assumption of Mary. Or is that just hyperbol and you really don't so much rely on them?