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1 posted on 11/04/2009 10:37:40 AM PST by bs9021
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Science cannot be critiqued like an aspect of popular culture. Anybody can tell you why they like or dislike art, music, food, or literature, because those evaluations rely on personal opinion and taste, something everyone has. Science is evaluated based on its merits by people who have the training to do so, something the general populace do not have.
2 posted on 11/04/2009 10:47:12 AM PST by stormer
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Ernest Lawrence, a pure experimentalist... said, "Don't you worry about it -- the theorists will find a way to make them all the same." -- Alvarez by Luis Alvarez (page 184)

I must reiterate my feeling that experimentalists always welcome the suggestions of the theorists. But the present situation is ridiculous... In my considered opinion the peer review system, in which proposals rather than proposers are reviewed, is the greatest disaster to be visited upon the scientific community in this century. No group of peers would have approved my building the 72-inch bubble chamber. Even Ernest Lawrence told me that he thought I was making a big mistake. He supported me because my track record was good. I believe U.S. science could recover from the stultifying effects of decades of misguided peer reviewing if we returned to the tried-and-true method of evaluating experimenters rather than experimental proposals. Many people will say that my ideas are elitist, and I certainly agree. The alternative is the egalitarianism that we now practice and that I've seen nearly kill basic science in the USSR and in the People's Republic of China. -- ibid (pp 200-201)

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7 posted on 11/04/2009 4:18:42 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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11 posted on 11/04/2009 4:43:59 PM PST by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/__Since Jan 3, 2004__Profile updated Monday, January 12, 2009)
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Met him last Saturday...very interesting person!


12 posted on 11/04/2009 5:40:42 PM PST by LiteKeeper (When do the impeachment proceedings begin?)
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We discovered that the “science” was not up to par on the Klamath system in California when we had two highly qualified scientists volunteer to serve on the federal salmon Task Force and to represent the County. They found a lot of rot in the science being used to support pro fish politics. The Bush Admin. had the NAS come out and did some analysis of the science and they found erroneous conclusions had been made by the agencies. (Such as the claim that a turn on of irrigation water in the upper Klamath had directly caused a giant fish kill.)

We have a local scientist who reviewed the science supporting the morratorium on suction dredge mining and there is faulty science there. A recent published paper linking irrigation to lower instream flows was found to have been based on invented data.

After years of experience with this, the County hired a consultant to review the science behind the plans to remove the Klamath dams. He found that sediment transport models being used were experimental - not up to accepted engineering standards and assumed the wrong partical size. He found that, when PCBs/dioxin and cyanide had been found in the very limited sampling of sediment behind the dams, further sampling for these problems was shut down and other sampling limited to areas where such sediments would not be found. (Clean up of toxic substances would add astronomically to the cost of dam removal.) The County has had to force them through press releases into further sampling and using a more appropriate model.

Just recently, the County found that a sampling report had found PCBs in the water. The agencies issued a report trying to twist the findings by attributing the PCBs to atmospheric sources - which they were not.

Scientific integrity is a thing of the past. It is shocking when a County has to hire someone to serve as a watchdog to protect the public by keeping the state and federal agencies honest.


13 posted on 11/04/2009 6:21:14 PM PST by marsh2
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"America today runs on technology"



Nuh-uh!
15 posted on 11/05/2009 5:24:51 AM PST by Hegemony Cricket (The emperor has no pedigree.)
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I know, lets all vote on Science! Lets vote down The Speed Of Light, so we can travel to the stars in a few days instead! Yeah, thats the ticket.....


17 posted on 11/06/2009 4:16:42 AM PST by Paradox (ObamaCare = Logan's Run ; There is no Sanctuary!)
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