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Schoolboy, 14, With No Underlying Health Conditions Dies From Coronavirus
Conservative US ^ | 03.29.2020 | Natalie D.

Posted on 03/29/2020 8:50:41 AM PDT by USA Conservative

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To: Meatspace

How could they say the boy had no underlying health conditions? Psoriasis is an autoimmune condition. He was on medication. Are these reporters ignorant or do they have an agenda?


81 posted on 03/29/2020 9:58:27 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: david1292

Re: USA CFR 1.7% - We are actually going up.

The USA “Case Fatality Rate” has been between 1.4% and 1.8% for the last three weeks.

It was actually trending down for two straight weeks until the still unexplained New York City COVID-19 explosion began a few days ago.

Curiously, the New York state CFR - which includes New York City - was about 1.4% this morning.

I just tried to confirm the NY state CFR, but the Johns Hopkins Dashboard has partially crashed, and I can’t get the state numbers up.


82 posted on 03/29/2020 9:59:45 AM PDT by zeestephen
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To: xkaydet65

I’ve taken ramipril for decades.
And it works great with no side effects.
Wonder if I should be asking for something else?


83 posted on 03/29/2020 10:00:39 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: USA Conservative

Fauci is l inked by many, not me. He is a Bureaucrat more than a Doctor after so many years. A bureaucrat protects their fiefdom, as is, before change. It is comfortable and works, even if slow. Another headline in FreeRepublic taunts a NY Dr. who has a 100% success rate, go with it!


84 posted on 03/29/2020 10:15:02 AM PDT by Tuketu (The i(D)iot Platform is splinters bound by crazy glue. TRUMP is the solvent.)
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To: DarthVader

I believe our government and President Trump know a lot more than is being reported. It could be an attack, it could be an escaped bug from a lab, or a naturally occurring phenomenon.

Whatever it is, he’s doing the right thing- imposing strict regulations to slow down the spread to give the government time to get supplies, meds, testing and people in place. Then he will relax the restrictions and hope the economy comes back.


85 posted on 03/29/2020 10:21:03 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: USA Conservative

My two questions: Was he using ibuprofen for psoriatic arthritis pain? Did he vape?


86 posted on 03/29/2020 10:39:39 AM PDT by polymuser (It's discouraging to think how many people are shocked by honesty and so few by deceit. Noel Coward)
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To: originalbuckeye

On a positive note, abbot labs has been approved to begin developing a 5 minute test machine.


87 posted on 03/29/2020 10:56:03 AM PDT by DownInFlames (Galsd)
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To: USA Conservative

psoriasis is an underlying condition.

i would not write it off as unimportant.


88 posted on 03/29/2020 11:13:36 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not Averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: frogjerk

It was so predictable that the magic death of those outside the norm hits the headlines just when the 1000 death total was reached. We are losing our minds,soul and country.


89 posted on 03/29/2020 11:15:46 AM PDT by shanover (...To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them.-S.Adams)
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To: ladyjane

Escaped my a$$!


90 posted on 03/29/2020 11:35:06 AM PDT by DarthVader (Not by speeches & majority decisions will the great issues of the day be decided but by Blood & Iron)
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To: ladyjane

I agree and suspect his statement that “this is a war” might be tied to this.


91 posted on 03/29/2020 11:43:42 AM PDT by whinecountry (Semper Ubi Sub Ubi)
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To: USA Conservative
"The Daily Mail reported that the teenager suffered from psoriasis, but had no major underlying health conditions."
92 posted on 03/29/2020 11:50:17 AM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: USA Conservative

Did they receive Hydroxi-chloroquin?


93 posted on 03/29/2020 12:13:33 PM PDT by Revel
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To: mass55th

Don’t know why the rest of my posting at #92 didn’t show up. After I quoted a sentence in the article, I asked if they’d done an autopsy on the kid to make sure he had no other health issues they hadn’t known about.


94 posted on 03/29/2020 12:18:53 PM PDT by mass55th ("Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway." ~~ John Wayne)
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To: USA Conservative

Psoriasis = autoimmune disease. We don’t know what meds he might have been taking.

Just as there are people that have so many health issues that they should die but somehow survive, there will always be “healthy” people that should survive but don’t.


95 posted on 03/29/2020 1:09:34 PM PDT by CARDINALRULES (Tough times never last -Tough people do. DK57 --RIP 6-22-02)
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To: USA Conservative

Put that in context. There arfe 2.8 million deaths per year in the US. 280,000 is 10%.

The press tends to edit all stories for the dramatic. I don’t know what Fauci actually said this time. But the typical empidemiologist gives a range from a very low number, lower than H1N1 in 2009, to a very high number of 300,000 or more.

The reason for the broad range is that nobody really knows. Nobody has a model that gives a narrow range probability. All models give a range of probabilities . And coronavirus models all give a very broad range.


96 posted on 03/29/2020 1:22:10 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: USA Conservative

Cue all the anti-pot bros.....”he must have been a pot smoker, quarantine the pothead States”


97 posted on 03/29/2020 1:30:15 PM PDT by The Fop (God Bless Donald Trump, Frank Sinatra, Joan Rivers, and the Fightin' Rat Pack Wing of the GOP)
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To: fso301; All

Interesting point!

Efforts began a year and a half before, and *multiple labs were involved, but in 2010, RUS/CCP Bio were successful in genetically taking the most virulent parts of the original “bat/SARS-Lk” virus, and adding it to the most virulent parts of “SARS” virus, in the Wuhan P4 genome manipulation, in which they did successfully created a NEW GENOME.

This is pages of summarized complexity by itself.

Already at this point, there is near impossible zoological complex union.

Analysis also reveals there was also restrictive enzyme manipulation of the HIV S component proteins, taken from glycoprotein 120 (GP120), with 4 confirmed inserts. One insert was taken from HIV-1 Gag (attached to the HIV capsid, or “nodule”), of which most bio engineers don’t understand the purpose of its insertion, and most yet believe to be mostly inert or failed. So, focus was on the other 3 HIV protein inserts. These inserts act through the CV-19 protein “spikes”, which initially look for and “plug into” the ACE-2 receptor.

However, keep in mind, the CV-19 virus is an RNA virus, and is not HIV.

That being said, it is believed the HIV S protein inserts (added/inserted to the CV-19 “nodule” spike proteins), likely serve to “fake out” the human immune system, (which doesn’t know it’s under attack), and initially even *reduces the production of *white blood cells*, enabling exponential unchecked viral growth or “load”. This means once a person really knows they are sick, and the body is trying to respond, the CV-19 virus has already been very active, and the onset of additional symptoms can be rapid.

As well, at least 35 different sequenced strands of Wuhan CV-19 have been identified around the world. One of these is known to have branched off and is called R18/G13. It is still referred to as Wuhan homogeneous, but the HIV Gag proteins are more broken down.

For now, the main receptor the CV-19 ((meaning a person has transitioned from SARS-CoV-2 into SARS/CoV-19)) RNA virus is attacking, is the Angiotensin Enzyme 2 (ACE2) recepter, (which is a Renin Aldosterone (RA) pathway), **which helps control a persons bloodpressure**!

So the CV-19 is not just attacking the lungs, it is attacking the heart, even before significantly reducing lung efficiency.

So the first steps of CV-19 virus are designed to initially attach to the ACE2 receptor, *fake out the immune system, and through cellular endocytosis exponentially replicate, while going after the RA pathway.

However, it’s not just the Wuhan Strand and the ACE2 receptor being attacked.

There are cases where CV-19 is attacking the GRP78 receptor, and the CD147 receptor.

So the spike protein on the CV-19 virus “nodule”, does already does not need to mutate, to go after other receptors. But it does have the stronger attraction or “infinity” for the bloodpressure regulating ACE2 receptor. At the same time, it can attack both GRP78 and CD147. If there is a wave 2 and wave 3, GRP78 and CD147 receptors may well be main mutated CV-19 targets.

CV-19 is likened to pre 1918 Spanish Flu in virulence, but it is not at all an influenza virus. As such while CV-19 may be 45X more virulent and robust (3 day viral life on non-porous surfaces), than H1N1, it is still not an influenza virus, and for that reason, and many other modern reasons, it is wrong to say it will kill the same percentages of people as the “Spanish Influenza”.

Part of the reason for the virulence —we have the protease called furin in our cells, and when CV-19 protein spikes have attached to an ACE2 receptor with furin near the surface, the CV-19 virus goes crazy, or “supercharged”, and this is when the CV-19 becomes roughly 1000X times as virulent.

What is written here, is largely taken from this Open Source vid — https://youtu.be/J6VEYzwSdZU

Any more than that, and I get a few people in trouble. Even in this vid, as intense as it sounds, Dr. Cottrel is being a bit careful not to get himself in trouble, so not to lose his “accesses”.

I am so on board with the hydroxychloroquine, as I have had to take much stronger related malarial drugs on deployments where up to 5 different types of malaria were present at once — As well as the use of other antibiotic therapies in hebeffort to reduce and even eliminate CV-19.


98 posted on 03/29/2020 1:58:53 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!))
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