[Enlightened1]

Wow!

[PGR88]

Funny how LAWYERS are considered as the ultimate threat. Not brutes with clubs, not guards with machine guns, not trained German Shepards - LAWYERS!

What does it say about our society?

[Not A Snowbird]

Dishonorable? No way.

That requires a general court martial.

[Chode]

separation is one thing, a DD is like retribution

[Ann Archy]

PURE EVIL!!

[blueunicorn6]

Lawyers in the military used to be down at their offices.

Now, they sit in on staff meetings.

They have scared the crap out of many Commanders.

“You can do that, Sir, but I am against it.”

This means that the lawyer will rat you out if everything doesn’t go according to plan.

Take the lawyers off the staffs and put them back in their offices.

[Starboard]

The Left has to exert control over the military in order to demonstrate to the rest of the country it has the power to control civilians too.

Its all about CONTROL. And this is just a prelude to exercising ever more power over us.

[qaz123]

What lawyers? JAG? If so, it should be stated they were JAG lawyers.

Big difference between having a JAG officer there coercing a young private and a civilian private attorney.

Any Dishonorable Discharge would easily be overturned by a competent civilian attorney.

All they have to do is point to the Anthrax vaccine and it’s failure then ask for any and all related documents concerning deaths or serious side effects of other GIs. Austin and Milley won’t like that.

[RetiredScientist]

Perhaps you need to brush up on the historical precedent: On the 6th of January 1777, George Washington wrote to Dr. William Shippen Jr., ordering him to inoculate all of the forces that came through Philadelphia. He explained that: Necessity not only authorizes but seems to require the measure, for should the disorder infect the Army... we should have more to dread from it, than from the Sword of the Enemy. The urgency was real. Troops were scarce and encampments had turned into nomadic hospitals of festering disease, deterring further recruitment. Both Benedict Arnold and Benjamin Franklin, after surveying the havoc wreaked by Variola in the Canadian campaign, expressed fears that the virus would be the army's ultimate downfall. (Fenn 2001, 69)

My son is active Military and a JAG lawyer (a Major). The Unified Code of Military Justice has provisions for forced vaccination. When my son joined he received several required vaccinations. When he deployed, he received many more. Note that a soldier who refuses a lawful order risks court martial. Some cases are already being litigated...

Of course, civilians have a right to refuse the vaccine. That said, employers often have requirements designed to protect the work force. Before I retired, my employer brought in nurses to adminsiter Flu Shots. Participation was voluntary. Most of us were happy to take them. They were not mandatory.

Here in Western NY, the insurance companies embrace the concept of a primary care physician. Mine is very good and I trust his judgement. When I have questions, I call the office or make an appointment for longer questions. We each want (and need) well-informed medical information. Your primary care physician is usually well informed. Hope this helps.

[Mr Rogers]

Years ago, before a deployment to the ME, some enlisted refused to be vaccinated. They were provided legal advice, then were given a choice: Obey a lawful order or be court-martialed.

Once the vaccine was authorized, there remained no legal defense for military members to refuse.

[colorado tanker]

I never had any choice about whether to get vaccinated in the Army. Never occurred to us to say no.

[smvoice]

Jab JAGs? Stickin’ it to thee man.