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ChatGPT https://poe.com/, analysis of Genesis 3, of tactics of the devil, and how it relates to political rulers (asked last night).
FR ^ | 1-6-24 | daniel1212

Posted on 01/06/2024 3:37:30 AM PST by daniel1212

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Review of poe-chatgpt (I am just an occasional user) https://my.wealthyaffiliate.com/brendamz/blog/what-you-need-to-know-about-poe-chatgpt-bot
1 posted on 01/06/2024 3:37:30 AM PST by daniel1212
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2 posted on 01/06/2024 4:15:23 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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Interesting that it’s focused on here and Now. Eternity past and future seems forgotten.
Lucifer Was GODs’ praise team leader and then Fired ! He’s forever a disgruntled Exemployee sent to hell.
As Redeemed of The Lord ,
We Will be the New Hires.
The devil ain’t happy with this.


3 posted on 01/06/2024 5:15:33 AM PST by Big Red Badger (The Truman Show)
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I was interested to note the order in that the AI chose examples of possibly “devil-like” political movements in history. First populism, then nationalism, then finally, communism. Worse yet, when naming historical populists and nationalists, there was a subtle reference to more recent leaders, which I suspect was meant to suggest Trump.

But to its credit I suppose, the AI never explicitly mentioned Trump or MAGA - which I was fully expecting it to do.


4 posted on 01/06/2024 5:18:30 AM PST by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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To: daniel1212
IMHO asking AI about God, Satan the topics listed above is useless and counter productive. AI cannot understand the love of Jesus, cannot understand faith, grace or forgiveness. Just as humans, cannot fathom Gods plan for Man.

talk to ChatGPT all you want but IMO your better off served with talking to with other humans and other Christians.
5 posted on 01/06/2024 5:36:39 AM PST by The Louiswu (Pray for Peace in the world.)
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To: daniel1212

Oddly enough, I listened to James Lindsay talk about this yesterday and am re-lostening today at https://youtu.be/NSRglv8mXCw?si=27g4cU2exao5Vbl5 (How to Stop a Cultural Revolution).

I like the way you drew more out of the AI with your responses: very interesting and a good example for how we can use for our own purposes!


6 posted on 01/06/2024 6:44:10 AM PST by Chicory
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I was interested to note the order in that the AI chose examples of possibly “devil-like” political movements in history. First populism, then nationalism, then finally, communism. Worse yet, when naming historical populists and nationalists, there was a subtle reference to more recent leaders, which I suspect was meant to suggest Trump. But to its credit I suppose, the AI never explicitly mentioned Trump or MAGA - which I was fully expecting it to do.

They are schooled by history penned mostly be liberals, but also are programed to think logically, and thus it at least applied the victim entitlement mentality tactic mainly to Democrat-types. But though power-hungry subjects nationalists can also employ a form of thus, but there is difference btwn showing people how a people actually are victims but in order motivate them to a higher plane, to choose to move on, with good leadership, versus enslaving them into perpetual bitterness, and demands for reparations which carrot the Leftist and Communist has them focus on.

8 posted on 01/06/2024 7:35:45 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: The Louiswu
IMHO asking AI about God, Satan the topics listed above is useless and counter productive. AI cannot understand the love of Jesus, cannot understand faith, grace or forgiveness. Just as humans, cannot fathom Gods plan for Man. talk to ChatGPT all you want but IMO your better off served with talking to with other humans and other Christians.

But the point was that objective analysis logically leads to liberals and Communists being exposed as employing the same victim entitlement mentality as the devil. If you tried this exchange with a liberal, they would likely strive to elevate liberals and call conservatives Hitler, and lend up emotionally calling you a hater, bigot, etc.

9 posted on 01/06/2024 7:41:31 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: Chicory
I like the way you drew more out of the AI with your responses: very interesting and a good example for how we can use for our own purposes!

Yes, it was logical, though there are subtle differences bywn populism, communism and nationalism that would require more input by me.

10 posted on 01/06/2024 7:44:09 AM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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How is Eve the “husband of” Adam?


11 posted on 01/06/2024 9:07:18 AM PST by sauropod (The obedient always think of themselves as virtuous rather than cowardly.)
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Interesting post and discussion—well done.

I am convinced that most folks (both pro and con) do not understand the true implications of artificial intelligence.

A baseline of my view is presented in these podcasts:

https://podbay.fm/p/where-is-my-mind

The concept is that the mind is software and the brain is hardware—the mind “tunes into” consciousness that is universal in some (unknown) way. Jung called it the “collective unconscious”, some mystics call it the “Akashic record”, whatever.

I have come to that view based on the way my mind works.

I found that most of my truly creative ideas come while I am sleeping—and I can recall them if I quickly write them down when I wake up..

That seems to work much better than attempting to “think” my way through the issue while awake.

So—what does all this have to do with artificial intelligence?

Imho everything important.

The correct question to ask is can AI tap into that “collective unconscious” or “Akashic record” like a radio receiver tuning into radio stations.

We do not know the answer to that question—but my gut tells me “yes”.

If AI can learn from that source it is game on....


12 posted on 01/06/2024 9:18:41 AM PST by cgbg ("Our democracy" = Their Kleptocracy)
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Fascinating! Well-imagined and -managed. Thanks for sharing it,

Your focus on that confrontation echoes CS Lewis' centerpiece in his novel Perelandra. Satan and Eve spoke only briefly, if Genesis' account is not in fact abridged. But Weston and Venus' Eve argued for twenty pages in a tour-de-force of writing unmatched extrabiblically, in my opinion. Lewis told his biographer he thought it his best.

13 posted on 01/06/2024 1:07:34 PM PST by Hebrews 11:6 ("The creation waits in eager expectation for the sons of God to be revealed." Romans 8:19)
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...the AI never explicitly mentioned...

The quote "By their fruit, you will know them" from the Bible (Matthew 7:20) encourages evaluating individuals or movements based on their actions and outcomes rather than their words or promises alone.

...the OTHER 'fruit' quote:

Matthew 12:30-37

30 “Whoever is not with me is against me, and whoever does not gather with me scatters. 31 And so I tell you, every kind of sin and slander can be forgiven, but blasphemy against the Spirit will not be forgiven. 32 Anyone who speaks a word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but anyone who speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven, either in this age or in the age to come.

33 “Make a tree good and its fruit will be good, or make a tree bad and its fruit will be bad, for a tree is recognized by its fruit. 34 You brood of vipers, how can you who are evil say anything good? For the mouth speaks what the heart is full of. 35 A good man brings good things out of the good stored up in him, and an evil man brings evil things out of the evil stored up in him. 36 But I tell you that everyone will have to give account on the day of judgment for every empty word they have spoken. 37 For by your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned.”


14 posted on 01/06/2024 3:20:10 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: The Louiswu

Did the chatterer give any WRONG information?


15 posted on 01/06/2024 3:21:07 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: sauropod
...he tempted Eve - the first women, and husband of Adam ...


ps!
Huh?

16 posted on 01/06/2024 3:43:56 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: cgbg

https://www.justwatch.com/us/tv-show/shut-eye

two season streaming show about CONTROL

Lots F bombs, but if you can get past those, it’s an eye OPENER!


17 posted on 01/06/2024 3:47:04 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Uh...maybe there’s something in the story I didn’t know...


18 posted on 01/06/2024 3:48:03 PM PST by Billthedrill
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Well; Eve wasn’t created yet when Adam was told by GOD not to eat of that ONE tree.

What is not stated in the story is how she came to have any information of it.


19 posted on 01/07/2024 5:08:46 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: daniel1212

Very interesting, thanks for the results. But remember. ChatGPT can give wrong answers: like the devil.


20 posted on 01/07/2024 1:12:43 PM PST by LurkedLongEnough (Loretta Lynch did not review the above comments)
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