Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Life may lie deep below Martian surface
New Scientist ^ | 01/30/07 | aggie McKee

Posted on 01/30/2007 7:23:36 PM PST by KevinDavis

Future missions may have to drill nearly 10 metres below the surface of Mars to find any life there, a new study concludes. The research suggests the best places to search for Martian life are blocks of water ice or gullies that show signs of recent water flow.

Researchers have long known that the Red Planet's surface is a harsh environment for life – with high levels of ultraviolet light from the Sun and oxidising conditions that seem to make organic molecules unstable. Charged particles – both from the Sun and from violent sources such as supernovae within the galaxy – also rain down from space, penetrating the surface and ionising molecules in their paths.

"In the case of Mars, the surface is a very nasty place to be," says Lewis Dartnell, a biologist at University College London, UK. "We've always known the deeper you go, the better."

(Excerpt) Read more at space.newscientist.com ...


TOPICS: Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; godsgravesglyphs; mars; martiandesert; panspermia; space

1 posted on 01/30/2007 7:23:38 PM PST by KevinDavis
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: RightWhale; Brett66; xrp; gdc314; anymouse; NonZeroSum; jimkress; discostu; The_Victor; ...

2 posted on 01/30/2007 7:24:17 PM PST by KevinDavis (“To be prepared for war is one of the most effectual ways of preserving peace” – George Washington)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: KevinDavis
Future News -- Installment #1: Mars Mission successfully drills down 10 meters! No sign of Life detected!

Future News -- Installment #2: Scientists say future Mars expedition may have to drill down 12 meters in order to find life!

3 posted on 01/30/2007 7:26:12 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Enoch Powell was right.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ClearCase_guy
Future News -- Installment #1: Mars Mission successfully drills down 10 meters! No sign of Life detected!

Future News -- Installment #2: Scientists say future Mars expedition may have to drill down 12 meters in order to find life!

Hey, this stuff ain't easy! I mean, we're talking rocket science here.

Seriously, these things are never easy until somebody does them.


Always listen to experts. They'll tell you what can't be done and why. Then do it.

Robert A. Heinlein, Time Enough for Love, 1973.


4 posted on 01/30/2007 7:33:41 PM PST by Coyoteman (Religious belief does not constitute scientific evidence, nor does it convey scientific knowledge.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: KevinDavis
The research suggests the best places to search for Martian life are blocks of water ice or gullies that show signs of recent water flow.

Martian global warming.

5 posted on 01/30/2007 7:38:41 PM PST by RJL
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RJL
Does the underground life know yet?

-PJ

6 posted on 01/30/2007 7:40:47 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: KevinDavis
Why did this come to mind?


7 posted on 01/30/2007 7:46:54 PM PST by GoldCountryRedneck ("Idiocy - Never under estimate the power of stupid people in large numbers" - despair.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: KevinDavis

Morlocks!


8 posted on 01/30/2007 8:19:47 PM PST by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: KevinDavis
Life on other Planets
by Thomas Gold
May 1997
Highly oxidized iron is abundant on Mars, and very small-grained magnetite can then be expected to be one of the accumulated residues of microbial processes; so can iron sulfide and methane-derived carbonates. Polycyclic aromatic hydrocarbons are the large molecules that might remain in a rock that originally contained crude oil but then was exposed for millions of years to the high vacuum of space. All these substances have been found in the discovery meteorite, closely packaged to each other, and this by itself would make a strong case for the microbial interpretation. In addition, there are small objects seen under scanning electron microscopy that may well be fossils of microbes. While the last item by itself would not be conclusive evidence, the combination of this together with oil and the three residue products make a strong case for the microbial explanation. It is true that each step can occur without biological intervention, but the chance of finding by chance the evidence for all three solids in a small volume, together with hydrocarbons, seems to be very low. Many terrestrial oil and gas wells show just such an association (but an association with helium also, which the meteorite could not have transported through space).
The Deep, Hot Biosphere The Deep, Hot Biosphere
by Thomas Gold
foreword by Freeman Dyson


9 posted on 01/30/2007 10:19:46 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they're not." -- John Rummel)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: blam; FairOpinion; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; Fred Nerks
Just adding this to the GGG catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. Thanks.
Please FREEPMAIL me if you want on or off the
"Gods, Graves, Glyphs" PING list or GGG weekly digest
-- Archaeology/Anthropology/Ancient Cultures/Artifacts/Antiquities, etc.
Gods, Graves, Glyphs (alpha order)

10 posted on 01/30/2007 10:48:44 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they're not." -- John Rummel)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

related:

Hints of huge water reservoirs on Mars
NewScientist.com news service | 19:00 25 January 2007 | David Shiga
Posted on 01/27/2007 9:10:38 PM EST by BenLurkin
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/1774878/posts


11 posted on 01/30/2007 10:50:31 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they're not." -- John Rummel)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Red planet's hue due to meteors, not water
New Scientist | September 4 2003 | Hazel Muir
Posted on 12/21/2006 3:27:00 AM EST by SunkenCiv
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1756678/posts


12 posted on 01/30/2007 11:04:06 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they're not." -- John Rummel)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

oops, I meant:

Hints Of Huge Water Reservoirs On Mars
New Scientist | 1-25-2007 | David Shiga
Posted on 01/25/2007 2:09:55 PM EST by blam
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1773643/posts


13 posted on 01/30/2007 11:04:54 PM PST by SunkenCiv ("In theory, theory and practice are the same, but in practice, they're not." -- John Rummel)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: Political Junkie Too
Does the underground life know yet?

Yes, the Democrats, Socialists and Communists are everywhere, no doubt they have a Martian Kyoto global redistribution of wealth plan.

14 posted on 01/31/2007 2:22:51 PM PST by RJL
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]


 GGG managers are SunkenCiv, StayAt HomeMother & Ernest_at_the_Beach
Just updating the GGG info, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list.


15 posted on 09/02/2011 5:18:37 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]




16 posted on 09/02/2011 5:19:05 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (It's never a bad time to FReep this link -- https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: KevinDavis

Hell’s been outsourced to Mars?


17 posted on 09/02/2011 5:19:51 PM PDT by Revolting cat! (Let us prey!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson