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Jupiter and Saturn full of liquid metal helium
UC Berkeley ^ | Aug 6, 2008 | Rachel Tompa

Posted on 08/06/2008 3:51:07 PM PDT by decimon

BERKELEY – A strange, metal brew lies buried deep within Jupiter and Saturn, according to a new study by researchers at the University of California, Berkeley, and in London.

The study, published in this week's online edition of the journal Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, demonstrates that metallic helium is less rare than was previously thought and is produced under the kinds of conditions present at the centers of giant, gaseous planets, mixing with metal hydrogen and forming a liquid metal alloy.

"This is a breakthrough in terms of our understanding of materials, and that's important because in order to understand the long-term evolution of planets, we need to know more about their properties deep down," said Raymond Jeanloz, professor of astronomy and of earth and planetary science at UC Berkeley and one of the authors of the study. "The finding is also interesting from the point of view of understanding why materials are the way they are, and what determines their stability and their physical and chemical properties."

Jeanloz studies pressures tens of millions of times greater than Earth's atmospheric pressure - the kinds of forces felt inside Jupiter and Saturn, so called "gas giants" that lack a solid surface. The core of the Earth, which is small and dense compared to the cores of these gas giants, contains pressures of about 3.5 million times atmospheric pressure. Pressures at Jupiter's core, for example, reach 70 million times Earth's atmospheric pressure, the planet's massive size more than offsetting its low density. The cores of Jupiter and Saturn are a balmy 10,000 to 20,000 degrees Celsius, two to four times hotter than the surface of the sun.

In this study, Jeanloz and Lars Stixrude, earth sciences professor at University College London, took a closer look at what happens to helium under such extreme conditions.

Most studies of materials in gaseous planets have focused on hydrogen, Jeanloz said, because it is the predominant element of both these planets and the universe. But even though hydrogen is the lightest element, its behavior is fairly complicated due to its tendency to form molecules of two bonded hydrogen atoms, Jeanloz said. Jeanloz and Stixrude wanted to study a simpler element, to more easily understand the effects of extreme temperatures and pressure.

So, they picked helium, the second most abundant element, which comprises five to 10 percent of the universe. They used theories based on quantum mechanics to calculate the behavior of helium under different pressures and temperatures. Although these equations are only approximations, Stixrude said, the researchers' predictions closely matched experimental results for lower pressures.

Under Earthly conditions, helium is a colorless, see-through, electrically insulating gas. But under the kinds of pressure and temperature found at the centers of Jupiter and Saturn, the researchers found that helium turns into a liquid metal, like mercury.

"You can imagine this liquid looking like mercury, only less reflective," Jeanloz said.

The finding was a surprise, as scientists had assumed that high pressures and high temperatures would make metallization of elements such as helium more difficult, not easier, Jeanloz said. He and his colleagues had previously found that helium starts to have some metal-like qualities in experiments at extremely high pressure, but they have not yet been able to experiment with helium under the conditions found inside giant planets.

A metal's key characteristic is its ability to conduct electricity, meaning electrons can flow through it like water flowing unimpeded down a riverbed.

"High temperatures make the atoms jiggle around, and so people thought that raising the heat would deflect the electrons, like putting enough rocks in a stream to block the flow of water," Jeanloz said. "The scattering caused by atoms was thought to make it harder for the electrons to flow down the stream."

But it turns out that the atoms' jostling also creates new ways for the electrons to move, almost as if new crevices had opened in the ground for the river's flow, Jeanloz said.

Scientists recently discovered that hydrogen metalizes under lower temperatures and pressures than was previously appreciated. The dogma in the field was that the characteristics of hydrogen and helium were different enough that the two wouldn't mix inside giant gaseous planets, Jeanloz said. The researchers' findings, however, indicate that the two elements probably do mix, forming a metal alloy like brass, but liquid.

This finding also speaks to one of the many mysteries of these large planets, Stixrude said. More energy is emitted from Jupiter and Saturn than they absorb from the sun, and scientists don't understand where it comes from. One of the prevailing theories is that droplets of helium condense out of the planets' outer atmospheres and fall to their centers as "helium rain," releasing gravitational energy. But Jeanloz and Stixrude's findings show that helium and hydrogen are probably a more homogenous mix than was previously suspected, meaning that helium rain is unlikely.

"Now, we have to look elsewhere for this energy source," Stixrude said.


TOPICS: Astronomy; Science
KEYWORDS: catastrophism; space
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I guess this wouldn't work in party balloons.
1 posted on 08/06/2008 3:51:08 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

With all that substance under the surface, Jupiter and Saturn would make a perfect president and vice-presidental nominee team for the Democratic party.


2 posted on 08/06/2008 3:57:15 PM PDT by Colonel Kangaroo
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To: shrinkermd

fyi.


3 posted on 08/06/2008 3:57:48 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
With all that substance under the surface, Jupiter and Saturn would make a perfect president and vice-presidental nominee team for the Democratic party.

Nah...the stuff under their surfaces is more than dirt.

5 posted on 08/06/2008 3:58:44 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: puffer

I’m still waiting for the planet of lithe, buxom beauties.


6 posted on 08/06/2008 3:59:41 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: puffer
When we find the planet that rains gummy bears, I’m going to be sooooo pissed.

Chew HERE, Chew NOW, go to Dentist and get Drilled (Here, Now, etc :)

7 posted on 08/06/2008 4:01:50 PM PDT by Mr_Moonlight
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To: puffer
...just a block away, the universe is filled with everything you could possibly want.

Other than what you need to live.

I hope we do get to the point where we can mine the solar system. And live for some time on Mars. The planet Mars, that is, and not candy bars. ;-)

8 posted on 08/06/2008 4:03:12 PM PDT by decimon
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To: the invisib1e hand
I’m still waiting for the planet of lithe, buxom beauties.

72?

9 posted on 08/06/2008 4:04:44 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon

Sounds like BS to me.

Helium is an inert, and liquid helium doesn’t behave like a metal on Earth; its a nonconductor for starters.


10 posted on 08/06/2008 4:05:33 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Jimmy Carter is the skidmark in the panties of American History)
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To: decimon

That’s a start.


11 posted on 08/06/2008 4:07:21 PM PDT by the invisib1e hand
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To: decimon
a liquid metal alloy.

That's where those terminator dudes come from.

12 posted on 08/06/2008 4:10:22 PM PDT by Doomonyou (Let them eat lead.)
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To: editor-surveyor

Except for the vastly different pressures involved you might be correct.


13 posted on 08/06/2008 4:15:22 PM PDT by muawiyah (We need a "Gastank For America" to win back Congress)
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To: decimon
This finding also speaks to one of the many mysteries of these large planets, Stixrude said. More energy is emitted from Jupiter and Saturn than they absorb from the sun, and scientists don't understand where it comes from.

I've read theories that Jupiter is a failed binary star. It's almost large enough to sustain fusion, but it missed it by that much.

14 posted on 08/06/2008 4:15:48 PM PDT by 6SJ7
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To: Colonel Kangaroo
With all that substance under the surface, Jupiter and Saturn would make a perfect president and vice-presidental nominee team for the Democratic party.

All that potential for "hot air"?

15 posted on 08/06/2008 4:16:08 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: editor-surveyor
droplets of helium condense out of the planets' outer atmospheres and fall to their centers as "helium rain," releasing gravitational energy.

Sounds like BS to me too, like too much gravitational energy hit their head. It seems likely some nuclear fusion is going on generating the extra energy. Jupiter is essentially a small star that failed to ignite.

16 posted on 08/06/2008 4:16:13 PM PDT by Reeses (Leftism is powered by the evil force of envy.)
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To: decimon; All
Speaking of Jupiter, you can now see it easily by eye after sunset. It's currently rising (breaking the horizon) at around 6:15pm (eastern time, U.S.). In fact, it is so bright that you might think it's the headlight of an approaching airplane. Distance from Earth at this time: almost exactly 400 million miles.

Note: although it's 'rising' at around 6pm ET, depending on your viewing location (obstructions etc), it likely won't be high enough for you to see it for another hour or so.

A good website for rising and setting times for the planets, also for viewable International Space Station (ISS) passes, and there are currently some bright ones over parts of the United States, is Heavens-Above.com:
http://heavens-above.com/

Finally, Venus is just now beginning to emerge again as an "evening star". However, you probably won't be able to see it easily for another few weeks, when it moves more eastward of the Sun. At that time, look west after sunset for a spectacular white light. It will eventually be even brighter than Jupiter is at the moment.

17 posted on 08/06/2008 4:17:37 PM PDT by ETL (Lots of REAL smoking-gun evidence on the demonRats at my Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl)
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To: Doomonyou
That's where those terminator dudes come from.

I thought from Hollywood. "liquid metal helium" is about as strange as anything from Hollywood.

18 posted on 08/06/2008 4:18:04 PM PDT by decimon
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To: 6SJ7
I've read theories that Jupiter is a failed binary star.

The Paris Hilton of planets?

19 posted on 08/06/2008 4:20:04 PM PDT by decimon
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To: decimon
A strange, metal brew lies buried deep within Jupiter and Saturn, according to a new study by researchers at the University of California, Berkeley, and in London.

How will they tie this to global warming?

20 posted on 08/06/2008 4:26:31 PM PDT by RJL
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