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Fossil Backs Theory Linking Dinosaurs To Birds
San Francisco Chronicle ^ | 5/4/09 | David Perlman

Posted on 05/06/2009 10:52:37 AM PDT by steve-b

Deep inside the single leg bone of an 80-million-year-old duck-billed dinosaur, scientists have found a hoard of proteins and blood cells providing the first clear biochemical evidence that dinosaurs are indeed the ancestors of modern birds - linked by evolution.

Until now those links had been based mainly on physical evidence - on feathers from dinosaur fossils, on their fossil eggs, on their fossilized birdlike nestlings and on the close resemblance of dinosaurs and birds like the famed "flying dinosaur" called archaeopteryx.

Now the same team of scientists, which found similar biological material in a 68-million-year-old Tyrannosaurus rex two years ago and immediately faced indignant challenges from many other researchers, has found striking confirmation in the details of their newest discovery.

The scientists say that the biological material they analyzed in their new study shows the strongest chemical relationship yet with similar bone and blood cells and proteins of two modern bird species - ostriches and chickens....

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Science
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1 posted on 05/06/2009 10:52:37 AM PDT by steve-b
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Well, there you have it. Since both have living material, the dog has evolved from the rutabega.


2 posted on 05/06/2009 10:56:12 AM PDT by Dutchboy88
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Do you believe this dinosaur track overlapping a human track is for real?


3 posted on 05/06/2009 11:00:32 AM PDT by DogBarkTree (Support The American Tea Party)
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If that track is real, then the “human”’s big toe must’ve weighed 10x the rest of its body. Why else would that indentation be so deep?

Looks like a fake to me or perhaps that’s not a ‘human’.


4 posted on 05/06/2009 11:02:20 AM PDT by Longdriver
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To: DogBarkTree
Some clay, a pair of these and a footprint could pretty easily freplicate something similar to the fake in the OP.


5 posted on 05/06/2009 11:02:50 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: Longdriver

Yeah, that is one really weird looking footprint!


6 posted on 05/06/2009 11:03:34 AM PDT by Travis T. OJustice (I can spell just fine, thanks, it's my typing that sucks.)
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To: steve-b

What I do not understand is how they could find proteins that old. Radioactive decay of Carbon would indicate there is no Carbon left.


7 posted on 05/06/2009 11:04:34 AM PDT by microgood
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To: steve-b
The real danger in avian flu is that it unlocks the genetic potential in birds and unleashes...

Chickensaurus!


8 posted on 05/06/2009 11:07:20 AM PDT by DannyTN ( Impeach and Deport)
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To: DogBarkTree
Do you believe this dinosaur track overlapping a human track is for real?

Isn't the human print over lapping the dino print?

9 posted on 05/06/2009 11:08:23 AM PDT by ScreamingFist
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To: Longdriver

It looks that way cause the guy was running. Hope he made it.


10 posted on 05/06/2009 11:08:46 AM PDT by stormer
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To: microgood
"What I do not understand is how they could find proteins that old. Radioactive decay of Carbon would indicate there is no Carbon left."

Radiometric carbon dating always indicates more carbon on allegedly old fossils than should be there. Evolutionists claim that the carbon detected is simply background contamination from ground water. At least some creationists like me, counter with, "if groundwater can contaiminate the fossil with carbon, can't it just as easily wash carbon out of a fossil?"

11 posted on 05/06/2009 11:11:44 AM PDT by DannyTN ( Impeach and Deport)
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To: DogBarkTree
They've found the creature's skeleton...


12 posted on 05/06/2009 11:12:18 AM PDT by stormer
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To: steve-b

Will we now have to give libe “the dinasour” when we properly salute them?


13 posted on 05/06/2009 11:14:14 AM PDT by ReaganWarrior (When Jeb trys to demote Reagan Jeb only demotes himself.)
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No. The fake dino claw cuts into the human foot print.


14 posted on 05/06/2009 11:14:28 AM PDT by DogBarkTree (Support The American Tea Party)
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To: DannyTN

let me help you out here... http://www.howstuffworks.com/carbon-14.htm


15 posted on 05/06/2009 11:14:34 AM PDT by stormer
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From what I can see from the evidence presented, it would appear that subject "Dino" was following subject "Fred" out of the cave. Therefore, it is likely that the dinosaur footprint was overlaid on top of the human footprint.

16 posted on 05/06/2009 11:33:49 AM PDT by trumandogz (The Democrats are driving us to Socialism at 100 MPH -The GOP is driving us to Socialism at 97.5 MPH)
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They do a good job of explaining the 1/2 life period, however, they fail to address the one crucial element that is rooted in the scientific method. Observation. Starting with Carbon 14, who has observed Carbon 14 decaying to 1/2 of its original component 5,730 years ago? How about Thorium 232 and 14 billion years?


17 posted on 05/06/2009 11:44:32 AM PDT by rjsimmon (1-20-2013)
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Carbon atoms come in a couple of “flavors” called “isotopes”. The vast majority of carbon atoms are of the variety known as Carbon-12 (they have 6 protons and 6 neutrons in their nucleus). These Carbon atoms are stable and last, for all intents and purposes, forever. A certain (and rather well established) percentage of Carbon atoms come in the flavor of Carbon-14 (they have 6 protons and 8 neutrons in their nucleus). These atoms of Carbon are not stable, and will eventually undergo a process called beta decay to “balance” the number of Protons and Neutrons in their nucleus. When it does, it changes into a Nitrogen 14 atom. The other “normal” Carbon atoms are unaffected. There will always be Carbon present in an organic sample, no matter how old. It is only the UNSTABLE Carbon atoms that decay. Now, after several million years, you won’t find much of any Carbon-14, as it has a half life of about 5700 years or so.


18 posted on 05/06/2009 12:00:11 PM PDT by Rebel_Ace (Tags?!? Tags?!? We don' neeeed no stinkin' Tags!)
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Collagen proteins also link dinosaurs to frogs and newts so a chicken leg is just another variety of a frog leg? Don’t tell that to the French!


19 posted on 05/06/2009 12:03:50 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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It’s humorous that you’re talking about carbon dating in the context of this article, yet no carbon dating was used, no carbon dating was claimed. Nobody uses carbon dating on fossils this old since it’s only accurate out to 45,000 years, 60,000 tops.


20 posted on 05/06/2009 12:07:54 PM PDT by antiRepublicrat
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