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Why The Roman Empire Fell:
http://www.tribunesandtriumphs.org/roman-empire/reason-why-the-roman-empire-fell.htm ^

Posted on 10/03/2014 5:10:05 PM PDT by Vinylly

I was doing a Google Search on 'Why The Roman Empire Fell'. I was sincerely shocked at the reason. The United States is now in the same position as when the Roman Empire fell. History is repeating itself and very few people realize this.


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1 posted on 10/03/2014 5:10:05 PM PDT by Vinylly
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Rome fell because lead was used for water pipes. The natives became brain-damaged.


2 posted on 10/03/2014 5:12:10 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Vinylly

All great empires have a 200-300 year shelf life. Ancient Egypt, Greece, Medo-Persians, Rome, British Empire, and now the US.


3 posted on 10/03/2014 5:12:46 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Vinylly

Been there, done that ..

Empires collapse all the time,, over vast scales of time.

We are not the first.. Or.. The last.. Well, maybe not.

Society decaying, respect for public authorities at a deficit, and many times , deservedly so, sounds like today..


4 posted on 10/03/2014 5:13:56 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: jjotto
The lead pipe bit is quite over-stated. Perversion and immorality are likewise not viable causes.

Bad immigration policies, disease, and bloated, corrupt government are far better candidates for why the Empire ended.

5 posted on 10/03/2014 5:15:13 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Now is not the time for fear. That comes later.")
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To: Vinylly

There are interesting parallels between the US and Rome


6 posted on 10/03/2014 5:16:25 PM PDT by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: jjotto

Droughts, plagues, lead, pick your poison, when it hits.. Anb PPP d Plumbing was so cool, Bada beem bada boom,, cosmic refuse happens.


7 posted on 10/03/2014 5:16:31 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi - Revolution is a'brewin!!!)
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To: Vinylly
Well there are many reasons:

1. Christianity

2. Barbarians and Vandals

3. Decay

4. Inflation

5. Lead

6. Economic

7. Division of the Empire

8. Hoarding and Deficit

And it took place over time.

8 posted on 10/03/2014 5:19:50 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: Vinylly

I believe Victor Davis Hanson has described these parallels in several columns over the years.


9 posted on 10/03/2014 5:20:14 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Thank you for self-censoring.)
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To: jjotto

Because they allowed foreigners to become their leaders. No, not a joke. They fell apart as a unit when they allowed that.


10 posted on 10/03/2014 5:20:26 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (Nothing says you are sad that someone died like looting local places of business!)
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A great historian I read said that all great societies (empires if you will) imported in their working class.

Be it conquered people, slaves or outside indigents.

All to the downfall of that society.

America? We imported blacks from Africa. If that didn’t do enough devastation to our society, we are now importing Mexicans. Who will soon be the majority of US citizens.

Could be worse. Europe has “welcomed” in millions of muslims. And of course, European culture is finished forever.


11 posted on 10/03/2014 5:20:46 PM PDT by Responsibility2nd (NO LIBS. This Means Liberals and (L)libertarians! Same Thing. NO LIBS!!)
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To: Vinylly

Have you ever read The Rise and Fall of the Roman Empire? If so, do you think it would be a good book for our older home schooled children?


12 posted on 10/03/2014 5:21:02 PM PDT by The_Republic_Of_Maine (In an Oligarchy, the serfs don't count.)
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To: Responsibility2nd

I was under the impression that the Roman Empire began in 753 B.C. and lasted until 476 A. D. That is slightly longer than 200 - 300 years.


13 posted on 10/03/2014 5:24:49 PM PDT by doc1019
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"Rome kept raising taxes and twisting the law so people just walked away from their property. They could not pay the taxes and the population moved to the suburbs started farms and relied upon themselves returning to a Villa economy of self-sufficiency.This then was transformed into serfdom for protection from barbarian invasions. Taxes kill the economy and cause people to move just as I reported they are moving from North to South inside the USA." - Martin Armstrong

14 posted on 10/03/2014 5:24:56 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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Seems that way to me.

It started with ever-expanding definitions of ‘citizenship’.

Here, once we really allowed those without ‘skin in the game’ to vote, it was just a matter of a couple generations before inevitable collapse.


15 posted on 10/03/2014 5:25:11 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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16 posted on 10/03/2014 5:26:10 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: The_Republic_Of_Maine

http://www.gutenberg.org/files/25717/25717-h/25717-h.htm


17 posted on 10/03/2014 5:26:28 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: Vinylly
BILLIONS and BILLIONS (See Carl Sagan.) of words have been written on the "Fall of the Roman Empire." The reasons have varied as the opinions have varied. Nothing new has been said in a l-o-n-g time.

The Romans did give us some GREAT food...and Catherine de Medici took it out of Italy on her way to marry a Frog.

From Wikipedia: For a time Catherine de Medici ruled France as its regent. In 1533, at the age of fourteen, Caterina married Henry, second son of King Francis I and Queen Claude of France [. Queen Claude of France was queen consort of France and duchess regnant of Brittany. She was the eldest daughter of Louis XII of France and Anne of Brittany, as well as the first spouse of Francis I of France.].

Under the gallicised version of her name, Catherine de Médicis, was Queen consort of France as the wife of King Henry II of France from 1547 to 1559.

The Italians and French "marriage" was sure a gastronomic goodie for us.

NOW I want some pizza!

18 posted on 10/03/2014 5:26:35 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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I always laugh hen some homosexual story comes up and everyone says, ah, just like Rome.

If you have the cite Nero and Tiberius, you might as well throw in Caligua and Claudius’s wife.

In fact the empire lived on centuries after the most decadent and was in fact predominantly Christian.

The empire was split up and power began to gravitate east and north.

The article cites fast growth, but the empire gee fast centuries before the fall.

Ask your self how could a city be the heart of such a fast empire.

How long could it last paying others to be their army.

Too big to keep sustaining control over such a vast area.


19 posted on 10/03/2014 5:27:22 PM PDT by morphing libertarian
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To: Shimmer1

Philip the Arab was the first.


20 posted on 10/03/2014 5:27:54 PM PDT by Argus
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