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Ruger VS Smith and Wesson
04.03.15 | Big Truck

Posted on 04/03/2015 3:11:40 PM PDT by big truck

I'm considering the purchase of either the Ruger LCR .357 snub nose (1 7/8" barrel) or the S&W 340 M&P .357 with the same barrel length. Anyone own/carry either gun? Pros and cons? Preferences?


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To: smokingfrog; Tijeras_Slim; Jeff Chandler
+1 on that... Love me some j-frames but in .38 only.

.357's a lever-gun cartridge only to me from now on, same for .44 magnum but more so.

21 posted on 04/03/2015 3:32:38 PM PDT by OKSooner (Chamberlain at least loved his country, please don't insult his memory by comparing him to 0.)
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To: big truck

Before the boat sank I carried a M&P 340 as my EDC. It’s small enough to pocket carry and a comforting caliber in .38+P or .357 magnum. It no fun to shoot unless using standard .38. But it’s a carry gun not a target piece. Find someone that has either an LCR or a 340, load it with .357s and determine if it’s right for you.


22 posted on 04/03/2015 3:33:34 PM PDT by Afterguard (Liberals will let you do anything you want, as long as it's mandatory.)
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To: big truck
I’m not real interested if the perp likes the way it looks or not

I am. It would kill me if they hated my gun.

23 posted on 04/03/2015 3:33:45 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The FCC takeover of the internet will quickly become a means to censorship of dissent.)
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To: big truck
Why not?

Muzzle blast and recoil. In that short barrel, I'd say a .38+P is plenty. You can only burn so much powder in a shorty. The rest is a ball of fire in front of you.

24 posted on 04/03/2015 3:34:08 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: OKSooner
same for .44 magnum but more so.

I'm getting a .44 mag wheelgun.

25 posted on 04/03/2015 3:34:25 PM PDT by Lazamataz (The FCC takeover of the internet will quickly become a means to censorship of dissent.)
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To: big truck
The .38 is that much better?

.357 magnums has too much power for a concealable barrel. .38spl is a handful in a snubbie, especially in +P. if you're looking for more power in a concealable weapon, perhaps 9mm +P in a small format would work. A semi-auto absorbs more hand-slamming energy.

26 posted on 04/03/2015 3:34:31 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
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To: big truck

An LCR in .357 magnum is pretty damn snappy on recoil.

I suggest two things: (1) if you want an LCR, get the .38 +P (because of the short barrel length you’ll get pretty much the same performance with a .38+P as you’ll get with the .357 mag cartridge); (2) if you want a .357 magnum in a short barreled revolver I would recommend the Ruger GP 100.


27 posted on 04/03/2015 3:35:19 PM PDT by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: Vermont Lt

The short barrel revolvers can be pretty accurate. I once had a Colt Agent which was about as good as it gets with 148 grain wadcutters.

They are a bit more difficult to hit with. Not that much harder tho.


28 posted on 04/03/2015 3:36:08 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: MileHi
Muzzle blast

The thing about a snub nose revolver, even if you don't stop the perp, at least he won't have any eyebrows.

29 posted on 04/03/2015 3:36:47 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
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To: big truck

It’s not very heavy, but it’s too bit for a concealed carry, at least the way I dress. (I’m in Florida and do not wear my shirttail out.) I conceal carry a S&W .380 Bodyguard with Glaser rounds. (They don’t ricochet and have the knockdown power of a .45 ACP.) However, you can now get the same frame size gun in 9mm, which is also a Glaser caliber. You can even get a slightly thicker version that has a double stacked magazine.


30 posted on 04/03/2015 3:37:16 PM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: big truck

If you want to shoot .357 mag. in a small Ruger you better go with the SP 101 with Hogue grips. I have the.357 LCR and won’t shoot anything but .38 Special + P because the mags HURT!


31 posted on 04/03/2015 3:37:27 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: Lazamataz
It would kill me if they hated my gun.

Well, yeah. But I also don't want my barbecue gun in the evidence room, either.

32 posted on 04/03/2015 3:38:32 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: big truck

A nice CC weapon is the Springfield XDS in 45 ACP. Should be all you need.


33 posted on 04/03/2015 3:40:15 PM PDT by Renegade
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To: big truck
My wife's S&W is a real peach...I'll get one when my .45 wears out. Seriously, it's tiny, light, easy to conceal (fits in your pocket). Beware, light and small come with an increased kick.

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34 posted on 04/03/2015 3:40:16 PM PDT by gorush (History repeats itself because human nature is static)
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To: Gen.Blather
.380 Glaser rounds. . . . have the knockdown power of a .45 ACP

I wouldn't have thought they did.

35 posted on 04/03/2015 3:41:16 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
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To: big truck

Ruger, Ruger, Ruger! I have the LCR .357. I never intend to shoot .357’s in it but I wanted the extra weight and strength of the steel frame vs. the aluminum of the .38 SPL model. I know that sounds strange but more weight (4oz.) = less recoil.

I shoot Speer .38 +P 135gr Gold Dot JHP’s designed for shooting in short barrels (check out the You Tube gelatin tests with this round). This round was developed for the NYPD who wanted something that performed like the 124gr Gold Dot JHP’s issued for their 9mm’s that would fit in .38 snubby back-up guns. Recoil is sharp but not painful. Anyone who would shoot a .357 in this gun is a glutton for punishment.

I carry strong side front pocket in a DeSantis Superfly synthetic pocket holster in 511 trousers and you’ll never know its there. The front sight is pinned and there are numerous replacements if you don’t like the original black ramp.

Oh yes, the trigger! It is like nothing you have ever used before. Ruger engineers re-designed the workings and it is the lightest, smoothest, double action design EVER. I had a Smith 642 and the trigger pull comparison isn’t even close.


36 posted on 04/03/2015 3:43:35 PM PDT by 43north (BHO: 50% black, 50% white, 100% RED.)
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To: Lazamataz
Cool, enjoy it. If you don't have handloading stuff, this is a good opportunity to get into it.

What I'll say good about the .44 magnum is it has the greatest load versatility of maybe any cartridge. You can load mild practice loads, and you can load almost max loads to shoot out of a lever gun with slow-burning powder like 2400, and everything in between.

You can also discover the progenitors of the .44 magnum, the .44special and .44Russian. You might enjoy working with these cartridges in a Charter Bulldog or Ruger Blackhawk.

My deal is that I'm at the point in life where I've got to ax myself what are the limits of what I can shoot effectively for the rest of my life, and likewise for my wife? The answer is "Let's get away from the magnum handgun cartridges."

Not to say you can't have a "blast" with them though if that's your choice. Double up on the hearing protection, and happy shooting. :)

37 posted on 04/03/2015 3:43:48 PM PDT by OKSooner (Chamberlain at least loved his country, please don't insult his memory by comparing him to 0.)
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To: big truck
The .357 in a short barrel puts out one he!! of a fireball. I am using a Ruger SP101 3” barrel as reference. The muzzle flip is strong but takes getting used to. Run .38+P HP through the gun. It is sort of a soft magnum. Good for follow up and much more controllable.
38 posted on 04/03/2015 3:45:02 PM PDT by Polynikes (What would Walt Kowalski do. In the meantime "GET OFF MY LAWN")
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To: Jeff Chandler

That and it might be a minute before your eyes overcome the flash.


39 posted on 04/03/2015 3:45:16 PM PDT by MileHi (Liberalism is an ideology of parasites, hypocrites, grievance mongers, victims, and control freaks.)
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To: MileHi

Muzzle blast and recoil. In that short barrel, I’d say a .38+P is plenty.


Agreed.


40 posted on 04/03/2015 3:46:07 PM PDT by laplata ( Liberals/Progressives have diseased minds.)
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