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A look at the potential causes of Russian plane crash
wbt 1110 am ^ | 11-2-2015 | SCOTT MAYEROWITZ, AP Airlines Writer

Posted on 11/02/2015 9:48:15 AM PST by Citizen Zed

Edited on 11/02/2015 12:09:58 PM PST by Admin Moderator. [history]

NEW YORK (AP) -- Investigators are still trying to determine what led to the sudden and catastrophic breakup of a Metrojet plane Saturday over Egypt's Sinai Peninsula, just 23 minutes after the Russian-operated jetliner took off from the resort of Sharm el-Sheikh.


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KEYWORDS: airbusa321; bomb; crash; egypt; eritrea; iran; isis; islamicstate; kgl9268; kogalymavia; metrojet; plane; redsea; russia; sharmelsheikh; sinai; sinaiplanecrash; stpetersburg; suezcanal; yemen
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Obviously missing airplane parts and victims prove this was a wormhole created by the Large Hadron Collider.
1 posted on 11/02/2015 9:48:15 AM PST by Citizen Zed
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To: Citizen Zed

WOMD from 2009 / 2010 .... that didn’t (don’t) exist


2 posted on 11/02/2015 9:51:34 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Another theory I just saw on Facebook: It could have been shot when it was at a lower altitude by something that didn’t destroy the plane immediately.


3 posted on 11/02/2015 9:52:28 AM PST by firebrand
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To: Citizen Zed

Aliens?

Aliens?


4 posted on 11/02/2015 9:53:49 AM PST by ThomasThomas ("YOUR BADGE! SHOW HIM YOUR BADGE!")
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To: Citizen Zed
A: Probably not. A local affiliate of the extremist Islamic State group has claimed it brought down the aircraft, but intelligence experts say they don't have weapons capable of reaching the 31,000-foot elevation the plane was flying at when the disaster occurred.

I don't believe anything they say. Who knows what isis picked up in Iraq after we pulled out?

5 posted on 11/02/2015 9:54:23 AM PST by pgkdan (But as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Maybe the pilot was getting drunk during the flight while getting their typical BJ and dropping bombs when something went wrong?


6 posted on 11/02/2015 9:57:47 AM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Citizen Zed

Was Hillary’s back up of her email server on board?


7 posted on 11/02/2015 9:57:49 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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A look at the potential causes of Russian plane crash

Unplanned contact with earth?

8 posted on 11/02/2015 10:01:08 AM PST by McGruff (Trump-Cruz 2016. Make America Great Again.)
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To: knarf

It’s one of these scenarios:

A: SAM or Air-To-Air Missile Strike

B: Bomb Onboard

C: Loss of Control by Pilot’s Due To Pilot Error or Failure of Computerized Fly-By-Wire System Leading to Loss of Control

D: Structural Failure Due To Faulty Maintenance Practices or Previous Damage to Airframe

The “Black Boxes” can provide the answers to the above scenarios. But this is Russia....


9 posted on 11/02/2015 10:08:14 AM PST by TTFlyer
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To: Citizen Zed

Having been to Sharm where the plane took off from, and seeing the folks there, it is very likely that the baggage loaded on the plane has something extra in it. Either timed or altimeter triggered.

Since the tail of the aircraft separated, the structural integrity of the airframe failed - most likely from rupture. At cruising altitude, there is a huge pressure differential.


10 posted on 11/02/2015 10:09:25 AM PST by datura
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it is very likely that the baggage loaded on the plane has something extra in it

Yup. Like the rest of the Third World, tarmac security is a joke. Half the baggers are probably ISIS or Al-Qaeda.

Either timed or altimeter triggered

Also dead on. I vote altitude triggered: it appears to have happened as they reached ~ FL300. Simple pressure differential detonator, set to typical cruise altitude pressure difference.

Explains everything, and is simplest: it's no accident that something like this happens to a Russian airliner in that part of the world at this point in history.

11 posted on 11/02/2015 10:13:08 AM PST by Regulator
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To: TTFlyer; Citizen Zed

I don’t know Arabic, but to me it is telling that ISIS claimed that it “downed” or “brought down” the plane, without revealing operational details. My interpretation is: bomb on board.


12 posted on 11/02/2015 10:15:00 AM PST by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: datura

The airline of the jet that crashed into the Sinai had not paid its staff in over two months, Russian news agencies have reported.

The widow of the doomed jet’s co-pilot, Sergey Trukhachov, said that he had not been paid for three months.


13 posted on 11/02/2015 10:15:37 AM PST by McGruff (Trump-Cruz 2016. Make America Great Again.)
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No kidding! Tarmac security over there is scary!!

I watched a burka clad woman (?) board an aircraft with only slits in her headdress for eyes - no baggage check - and was horrified.

The Sinai is a mess...


14 posted on 11/02/2015 10:17:31 AM PST by datura
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To: McGruff

Motive and opportunity for bribery! Nice catch.


15 posted on 11/02/2015 10:17:40 AM PST by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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To: pgkdan

The plane was flying at 31,000 feet but what is the elevation of the surface over which it was flying? The SA-8, which I believe ISIL has, can reach over 25,000 feet.


16 posted on 11/02/2015 10:28:01 AM PST by newbolt
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To: Citizen Zed

Sounds like a short in the Center Fuel Tank to me...


17 posted on 11/02/2015 10:40:00 AM PST by Haiku Guy (December 4, 2015 will be Hillary Clinton's Coming Out Day)
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To: pgkdan

Obama essentially handed ISIS a pile of Stinger missiles. More than sufficient to take down a civilian plane.

Putin knows this. The retribution will be Biblical. Literally.


18 posted on 11/02/2015 5:28:37 PM PST by piytar (Good will be called evil and Evil will be called good.)
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Stinger missiles are effective up to 11,500 feet altitude. The plane was at 33,500 feet before crashing.


19 posted on 11/03/2015 1:00:11 AM PST by Krosan
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Ok, now here is one of the issues.

Throughout the last few days, the altitude of the plane seems to have risen about 5,000 feet. I haven’t seen a definitive altitude.

But that is a ASL altitude, not AGL. If the plane was climbing to 30,000 and was over a mountain that was 8000’ it cuts the range down significantly.


20 posted on 11/03/2015 2:08:39 AM PST by Vermont Lt
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