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New York making state colleges tuition-free for middle class, poor
CBS / Associated Press ^ | 4/10/2017 | Staff

Posted on 04/10/2017 7:05:53 AM PDT by simpson96

ALBANY, N.Y. -- New York will be the first state to make tuition at public colleges and universities free for middle-class students under a state budget approved by lawmakers Sunday.

The plan crafted by Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo will apply to any New York student whose family has an annual income of $125,000 or less. To qualify the student would have to meet certain class load and grade point average restrictions, and room and board would not be covered.

“College is today what high school was 50 years ago,” Cuomo said on a radio interview Sunday on AM 970 in New York City. “If you’re a young person who wants success and a career, a college education is necessary.

The initiative is included in a $153 billion state budget proposal that passed the state Senate late Sunday after being endorsed by the Assembly a day earlier. The budget was due by April 1, but difficult negotiations delayed passage.

The tuition plan will be phased in over three years, with families making $100,000 or less annually eligible in the fall of 2017, with the threshold rising to $125,000 in 2019. Cuomo’s office says some 940,000 families will qualify. The initiative also includes $19 million for a new tuition award program for students at private colleges.

The governor’s office estimates that the program will cost the state $163 million.

Officials at some private colleges and universities are expressing concern about the impact on the, reports CBS New York.

When asked by CBS New York if he feared an exodus of students to free state schools, Robert Gilmore, who handles admissions at Manhattanville College, replied, “I really kind of am.”

(Excerpt) Read more at cbsnews.com ...


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To: boycott

If a young person wants success, get a job, any job, keep working hard at it for 40 years, and spend less than you make the whole time. A degree in Arctic Anthropology or Feminist Puppetry is not part of that plan.


21 posted on 04/10/2017 7:34:21 AM PDT by babble-on
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To: NCnodeLOGICBOMB

That’s the next step. Cuomo has set up a state entitlement that blacks and Hispanics will be hard pressed to take advantage of.

10 years from now the dorm rooms @ SUNY schools will look like Beirut.


22 posted on 04/10/2017 7:35:01 AM PDT by ameribbean expat
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To: simpson96

I don’t think this is fair to tax people who already have raised their kids and paid for their education. Why should they have to pay for someone else’s kids to go to college?

This is socialism at work!


23 posted on 04/10/2017 7:35:15 AM PDT by Keen-Minded
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To: simpson96
Free College in New York: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

Be sure to check out no 3.

24 posted on 04/10/2017 7:35:51 AM PDT by mewzilla (Was Obama surveilling John Roberts? Might explain a lot.)
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To: simpson96

now they’re going to be overrun with people who are not cut out for college, and they will have to lower their standards, demeaning the value of a college education, just because it makes the democrats feel better...


25 posted on 04/10/2017 7:37:15 AM PDT by camle (keep an open mind and someone will fill it full of something for you)
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To: buwaya

>>Back of the envelope - $6K typical undergrad tuition x 400,000 undergrads = 2.4 Billion.

True, but you’re not using the new “Common Core” math where 6,000 * 940,000 = whatever liberal snowflakes feel the answer should be.


26 posted on 04/10/2017 7:38:20 AM PDT by vikingd00d (chown -R us ~u/base)
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To: day10
No, it will cost the New York taxpayers $163 million.

I'll retire in a few years and then I'm out of here!

27 posted on 04/10/2017 7:38:23 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: nickedknack
There is no such thing as a free lunch. Someone always pays.

From time to time in the summer, I'll make a salad for lunch made from nettles, chickweed, purslane, and lambs quarters.

28 posted on 04/10/2017 7:43:22 AM PDT by Wissa (I took a little stroll to the Red Dog Saloon.)
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To: simpson96
we already have programs that make it quite cheap.

Maybe make it conditional that the kid gets a summer job.

29 posted on 04/10/2017 7:48:00 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: headstamp 2

I agree....absolutely....


30 posted on 04/10/2017 7:48:31 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: simpson96

That’s a pretty great deal. I had seen this article over the weekend but didn’t have time to read it. Glad you posted it! Bravo to Cuomo and the New York Ed system :)


31 posted on 04/10/2017 7:52:38 AM PDT by BogusTimes (Exposing the Bogus News and insanity of the liberal elites)
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To: Wissa
There is no such thing as a free lunch. Someone always pays.

From time to time in the summer, I'll make a salad for lunch made from nettles, chickweed, purslane, and lambs quarters.


You paid for that with your valuable time spent gathering those edible plants. Payment is payment - It need not be in cash. You could have spent that time doing something else, including something for which others would have paid you.
32 posted on 04/10/2017 7:54:04 AM PDT by Jagermonster (TANSTAAFL)
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To: simpson96

Free* Education, Comrades!

*Socialist Democrat Party Membership Required.


33 posted on 04/10/2017 7:54:17 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set!)
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To: buwaya

YUP. Their $163 million is a total fantasy number, radically low. The state is already broke and they add on a program that cannot possible be funded within a feasible budget. Libtard politicians are such liars. Ofc RINOs are just about as bad.

Cuomo is getting ready to run for President in 2020. I sure hope this blows up in his lying face before then.


34 posted on 04/10/2017 7:55:09 AM PDT by Enchante (Libtards are enemies of true civilization!)
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To: nickedknack

*There is no such thing as a free lunch. Someone always pays.*

My first thoughts as well.....perhaps this is an attempt stop the grand exodus out of NY State and bring others in as Magnet Bait I would imagine.


35 posted on 04/10/2017 7:56:29 AM PDT by caww
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To: mewzilla

[Thus, there’s a provision baked into the bill that requires people to remain in the state for four years if they went to a four-year college and for two if they went to a two-year institution, according to The Post.]

Big deal.


36 posted on 04/10/2017 7:56:55 AM PDT by headstamp 2 (Fear is the mind killer.)
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To: boycott

“I know several very successful people that didn’t graduate college.”

I’m one of them. A number of credits shy of my, ‘Bidness Degree’ but I’ve managed THREE multi-million dollar companies for others, post-Army career.

And now, I’m debt-free and retired at age 56. :)

It CAN be done without college. (Paid for mine via the Army & The Mastercard Payment Plan, LOL!)


37 posted on 04/10/2017 7:58:03 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set!)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

retired at age 56

Jealous ===> boycott


38 posted on 04/10/2017 8:00:18 AM PDT by boycott
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To: boycott

Plan the Work, then Work the Plan, Baby. ;)


39 posted on 04/10/2017 8:09:43 AM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set!)
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To: Jagermonster
You paid for that with your valuable time spent gathering those edible plants.

The time was spent pulling weeds out of my garden to keep them from crowding out my vegetables. I was doing that regardless of what I did with the weeds. Putting them in my mouth to eat instead of throwing them to the side didn't take any time. It actually saved me time in not having to prepare something else to eat.

You could have spent that time doing something else, including something for which others would have paid you.

I raise my own vegetables to have a healthier diet and live longer in better health. I also get that benefit from having a lower stress lifestyle than I had when people were paying me for my time. I've made the decision that a long, healthy, happy life has more value to me than the junk I'd buy with whatever I'd get paid in wages. I'm not sure how I'd put a dollar amount on how much I'd want to get paid for giving up my health or dying younger.

40 posted on 04/10/2017 8:16:53 AM PDT by Wissa (I took a little stroll to the Red Dog Saloon.)
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