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A little FReeper Pistol Collector Help, If You Please.
Strac6

Posted on 08/06/2017 6:43:31 PM PDT by Strac6

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To: atomic_dog

More than that...once you can prove it’s real. There are known fake Singers and US&S .45s (some of them in circulation for quite some time) out there.


41 posted on 08/07/2017 3:48:42 PM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: M1903A1
"Jerk"

Always the first sign someone's losing the argument.

42 posted on 08/07/2017 4:06:22 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail

I stand by my statement. I’ve seen some real crap .45s over the last thirty years at laughable prices.

And one only needs to read the tone in your post to see I was justified.


43 posted on 08/07/2017 4:18:18 PM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: Swordmaker

Could be.... This was several years ago, and I haven’t looked lately.


44 posted on 08/07/2017 4:19:24 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: M1903A1

Well then, you have to live with it. You must be excessively sensitive if you took offense to my comment to you.


45 posted on 08/07/2017 4:24:00 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail

Finally, someone speaks with knowledge and understanding of the subject at hand...


46 posted on 08/07/2017 4:28:06 PM PDT by Raven6 (Psalm 144:1 and Proverbs 22:3)
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To: Raven6
Thank you, Buddy -

The Colt 1911 is a wonderful old treasure and even when they're a century plus in years, they are handsome, well-made, and deadly. A friend of mine has a faded but correct 1911 of 1918 vintage and I'm working on him to sell it to me.

Meanwhile, Frank Luke's .45 has been missing for decades and I hope that I'm the one that finds it again! It was found in France at the spot where he shot down his last observation balloon, then crashed his SPAD and then engaged the Germans with that pistol and then it disappeared.

Now that's a pistol with history.

47 posted on 08/07/2017 4:55:16 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail

I do quite well, thank you very little. The world will ever see your true self...me, I’ll dismiss you as soon as I hit “send”.

That said, let me tell you a couple of stories....

I have seen more than a few surplus GI .45s, mostly M1911A1s—thankfully nothing really notable like US&S or (God forbid) Singers—that had been buffed with a wheel on a bench grinder and chrome plated. The straight lines of the frame and slide (even some of the small parts) had been distorted, and the lettering had been blurred. In some cases, even the “UNITED STATES PROPERTY” had been removed.

Also, my old jeweler had an M1911 under the counter as his “store gun”. I looked closely at it the last time I visited him...it was a 1918 Black Army with the “UNITED STATES PROPERTY” ground off and covered overall with black house paint.

By the time a restorer like Turnbull got done with one of those, you’d have more into it than a pristine one would be worth. You seriously gonna tell people that screwed-over pieces like those are worth a premium?

I don’t lowball people...but I’m not about to unduly build their hopes up either.


48 posted on 08/07/2017 7:34:30 PM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: Strac6

Pills Help....

Wash it down with Jack Daniels!


49 posted on 08/07/2017 8:37:03 PM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: M1903A1; Strac6
I agree that there are some really lousy .45s out there in the gun world that have been buffed, faked, and plated out of any collector value - but where your tone set me off was the dismissive attitude towards Strac6's inquiry: you started from a position of "your stuff's trash - my stuff's gold" before he even showed us a photo of what he was asking about.

I have run into that attitude over and over in the gun hobby and it's annoying. As I know you know, reasonably honest 1911s - like honest Lugers and honest Colt SAAs - command a premium and they are going up while we watch.

On the other side of the coin, I have seen many, many collectors cheat people who walk in with their late husband's "bring-back" .45 by telling them that something's "wrong" with pistol but they're willing to give them a little money for it anyway. Then they gloat to their buddies on how much their new acquisition is worth compared to how little they paid. Seen that over and over.

More often than not, there are real treasures out there and I am proud to say that I never cheated anyone. If their pistol's a good one, I have always paid a fair price, even to the point of showing them the current Blue Book values.

50 posted on 08/08/2017 4:33:45 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Big Red Badger

Hell of a waste of good Jack!

:)


51 posted on 08/08/2017 6:32:34 AM PDT by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus, and Sig Sauer: All the fun things in my life are Swiss!")
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To: Chainmail; Strac6
What he said.
Check a reputable auction house for true value.
52 posted on 08/09/2017 12:21:09 AM PDT by Tainan (Cogito, ergo conservatus sum -- "The Taliban is inside the building")
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To: Tainan
"Check a reputable auction house for true value"

True - or just consult several separate collectors at a gun show. The honest ones will explain their valuation and show you the Blue Book value.

53 posted on 08/09/2017 4:30:43 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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