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A little FReeper Pistol Collector Help, If You Please.
Strac6

Posted on 08/06/2017 6:43:31 PM PDT by Strac6

In 1971, at a small USAR unit in upstate NY, I was assigned a Colt 1911 pistol. It was in the shape you would expect it to have been in after a few wars, etc. There were many obvious non-original parts, worn blueing, etc.

The interesting item was that it a real Colt, not another manufacturer, and the serial number was 000086. I don't remember how many digits were in front of the 86, but as I remember, they were all zeros. It was definitely not a 1911A1. The armorer said it was most probably the eighty sixth Colt Automatic Pistol Model 1911 made by Colt.

Anyone have any idea what it would have been worth if any of my dreams about getting it "off the books" ever come to fruition?


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1 posted on 08/06/2017 6:43:31 PM PDT by Strac6
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Keyword "Banglist" added to reach the Free Republic firearms community.

Hard to say after all these years if what you saw was a 1911, not a 1911A1, but it is not out of the realm of possibilities in 1971 to have a 60 year old firearm in an Army Reserve armory.

2 posted on 08/06/2017 6:49:08 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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You can get a nice Ruger SR1911 New for under $700.

The item you have is good for a mantel display piece - worn,non original parts and questional safety. Value might be $500.


3 posted on 08/06/2017 6:51:57 PM PDT by TNoldman (AN AMERICAN FOR A MUSLIM/BHO FREE AMERICA. (Owner of Stars and Bars Flags))
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To: Strac6

My 1911A1 Series 80 Colt is about 8 years old. I absolutely do not remember the manufacturer of the 1911 I used in the Army in the late 60’s. No doubt many years, maybe even decades newer than your low SN# gun.


4 posted on 08/06/2017 6:53:28 PM PDT by umgud
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In reality, very little.

the 86th 1911 pistol in used condition could bring upwards of 30K, but not one used and abused in the military for decades.

Old doesn’t always mean valuable.


5 posted on 08/06/2017 6:53:56 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Yo-Yo

It was definitely a 1911, not an A1. No trigger area cutout.

As far as having a 60 year old weapon, this unit was so bad, in the event of DEFCON 1, pregnant women and children went before we did. I’m surprised we not have Sharps Calvary Carbines in the arms room.


6 posted on 08/06/2017 6:54:02 PM PDT by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus and Sig Sauer: All the fun thing in my life are Swiss!")
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I do not recall seeing any low digit serial numbered Colt 1911’s with zero’s in front of them. I wonder if it was a rework of some type? IMHO the serial numbering went right along from a 1911 model into the 1911A1 model.


7 posted on 08/06/2017 6:55:33 PM PDT by Parley Baer
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Thanks. It was a fun dream while it lasted....


8 posted on 08/06/2017 6:55:46 PM PDT by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus and Sig Sauer: All the fun thing in my life are Swiss!")
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Sounds like it was beat up some...
Time to relegate it to a “hanging piece” (cleaned and on you wall.)

I never could hit anything with one of these...


9 posted on 08/06/2017 6:56:13 PM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Baseball players, gangsters and musicians are remembered. But journalists are forgotten.)
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Probably not worth all that much if it’s a mixed-parts gun.


10 posted on 08/06/2017 6:59:42 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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Beat up?

It had probably been used to pound in tent stakes in the Belleau Woods!

I could still qualify with it though, which was basically nothing more than putting 7 rounds on paper at 15 meters.

Be well.


11 posted on 08/06/2017 7:00:20 PM PDT by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus and Sig Sauer: All the fun thing in my life are Swiss!")
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

On second thought, it was more like 15 feet!

:)


12 posted on 08/06/2017 7:03:12 PM PDT by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus and Sig Sauer: All the fun thing in my life are Swiss!")
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13 posted on 08/06/2017 7:03:19 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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Dont be so quick to dismiss its potential value. The frame and slide are the most important parts and it if they are very early they could be worth thousands to a collector.


14 posted on 08/06/2017 7:04:11 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the War on White People, is to recognize it exists.)
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It was a real POS, but a great POS! It rattled loudly when you shook by hand it if there was no round in the mag to press up against the slide.


15 posted on 08/06/2017 7:05:07 PM PDT by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus and Sig Sauer: All the fun thing in my life are Swiss!")
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

Thanks


16 posted on 08/06/2017 7:06:18 PM PDT by Strac6 ("Mrs. Strac, Pilatus, and Sig Sauer: All the fun things in my life are Swiss!")
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Don't listen to them: any original 1911 is worth a lot. One in original finish would be rare - they had a dull blue job back then, not grey Parkerizing - but even an arsenal refinished one would be worth good money. An original in as-issued condition would be worth upwards of $3,000 - $5,000. A rebuilt 1911 with arsenal stamps showing the rebuild would still be worth more than $1,500 - $2,000.

Anybody at all who claims that an original 1911 is "only worth $500" is either completely uninformed or trying to gyp you down so he can get it cheap.

Defies belief that anyone would think that a Colt made 1911 would become "dangerous" to shoot even after a century. It is an excellent, robust design and they will live on long after these cheesy copies are in a landfill.

17 posted on 08/06/2017 7:11:25 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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I know a fellow that has a 1875 Colt SAA (Peacemaker) It was old, worn, original but functional. It had a value of about 2K dollars.

Against my advice, he took it to a gunsmith and had it “repaired”, detail restored, and reblued. The value now???
About $200. Shoots great!

It now sits in a display case on his mantle; as a monument to stupidity.


18 posted on 08/06/2017 7:11:54 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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To: Parley Baer

All those zeroes sound a bit odd to me too but I really don’t know.

If it were mine in that condition, I would have it refurbished and shoot it.


19 posted on 08/06/2017 7:12:25 PM PDT by yarddog (Romans 8:38-39, For I am persuaded.)
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To: Chainmail

Lots of “ifs” in your post. You are assuming arsenal rebuilds. I am assuming unit level replacement of parts, and a thoroughly used slide/grip set. IF the original slide/grip are still together.

My “ifs” are far more likely than yours....


20 posted on 08/06/2017 7:17:37 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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