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New trial to be held in Stairway to Heaven copyright dispute
sky ^ | Saturday 29 September 2018 | staff

Posted on 09/30/2018 7:07:43 AM PDT by Eddie01

An earlier trial found in favour of Led Zeppelin but an appeals court ruled the judge had given misleading information to jurors.

A new trial will be held in a lawsuit that accuses Led Zeppelin of copying a 1960s instrumental in its 1971 classic Stairway To Heaven.

An earlier trial saw a federal court jury in Los Angeles find in favour of Led Zeppelin, but the US appeals court has since ruled that the judge in the original trial had given misleading instructions to jurors.

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The lawsuit was brought in 2015 by Michael Skidmore, a trustee for the late Randy Wolfe, who was guitarist of rock band Spirit and composed an instrumental called Taurus in 1967.

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Mr Skidmore says the two bands toured together in 1968 and 1969 and this may have been when Led Zeppelin guitarist Jimmy Page was inspired to write Stairway To Heaven.

According to Mr Skidmore's lawsuit, Wolfe had complained about the similarity between the two songs not long before he drowned in 1997 while attempting to rescue his son.

Plant and Page, however, say that Wolfe was a songwriter for hire and, therefore, had no claim to copyright.

They also say that the chord progressions in Stairway To Heaven were too well-known for such protection.

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Also, jurors could only listen to experts' versions of the sheet music for Taurus - not the version of the song recorded by Spirit.

Steven Weinberg, a copyright lawyer who watched the trial, said the sheet music was not faithful to the recording, so jurors could not fairly compare the songs.

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TOPICS: History; Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: ledzeppelin; stairway; taurus
Taurus vs. Stairway
1 posted on 09/30/2018 7:07:43 AM PDT by Eddie01
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To: Eddie01

I don’t hear it. Different songs


2 posted on 09/30/2018 7:13:20 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is EVIL and needs to be eradicated)
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To: Eddie01

The Chord progressions are as old as the baroque period. Maybe Bach’s family should sue both of them.


3 posted on 09/30/2018 7:34:27 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (Freep mail me if you want to be on my Fingerstyle Acoustic Guitar Ping List)
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To: FatherofFive

I believe it served as inspiration for the Stairway progression, but I don’t see it as a rip off either.


4 posted on 09/30/2018 7:36:43 AM PDT by Eddie01
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To: Eddie01

5 posted on 09/30/2018 7:48:00 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Eddie01

“I believe it served as inspiration for the Stairway progression, but I don’t see it as a rip off either.”

That’s my view too. The fact the 2 bands toured together adds a little more to the story, no doubt the song was part of Spirit’s set list. I am sure Page was at least influenced but it’s going to far to say he copied it. Too bad Spirit wasn’t better known they did some really good stuff and Randy California was a great guitar player


6 posted on 09/30/2018 7:48:03 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: Eddie01
Here are nine examples of Zeppelin blatantly ripping off others..

Of course the riff in Taurus was lifted by Zeppelin. What is smelly here is that Randy California never sued when he was alive.

Look, when George Harrison complained to the guys that they never wrote a ballad, they went ahead and wrote "The Rain Song" which is sort of based on Harrison's "Something." They "ripped off" a BEATLE! Let's be honest. It happened. And it continues, as does the Circle of Life: to wit, Robert Plant likes Greta Van Fleet.

For me, Zeppelin begins and ends with Achilles Last Stand which hasn't any whiff of plagiarism. Thus, they may be thieving magpies but Achilles is a masterpiece.

7 posted on 09/30/2018 7:50:20 AM PDT by DoodleBob
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To: Eddie01

They should have just bought the “Stairway to Heaven.”


8 posted on 09/30/2018 7:51:07 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: P-Marlowe
The Chord progressions are as old as the baroque period. Maybe Bach’s family should sue both of them.

There is a hillarious Youtube rant on how many songs have copied the chord progression in Pachelbel's Canon in D.

9 posted on 09/30/2018 7:55:22 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Leave the job, leave the clearance. It should be the same rule for the Swamp as for everyone else.)
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To: gibsonguy

British bands ripped off US R&B mercilessly, sometimes with credit but often without. Led Zeppelin did this quite a few times. But this? Spitting on the sidewalk by comparison. Wolfe’s estate is being used in a money-grab.


10 posted on 09/30/2018 7:59:00 AM PDT by Tallguy
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To: Eddie01

This isn’t nearly as bad as a copyright court case over the Bible would be...but still, the lawyers had to chisel “Stairway To Heaven” out of its platinum shrine in order to abuse it like this. Pure blasphemy.


11 posted on 09/30/2018 8:11:01 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Eddie01

https://youtu.be/CxfniXCwrJA?t=354

The boring part of the song sounds similar. I’d love to see where Page got this... which to my mind is one of the most miraculous feats on a guitar ever recorded. Wait for the b string to break... you almost can’t tell until you see the string hanging. In my book, God Bless Jimmy Page.


12 posted on 09/30/2018 8:31:28 AM PDT by DC Bound (REBEL NOIR: http://www.claytonlindemuth.com/solomon-bull/)
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To: Eddie01

Nope. Nowhere close. Case closed.


13 posted on 09/30/2018 8:47:09 AM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: DC Bound

https://youtu.be/CxfniXCwrJA?t=354

Well I gave it a look and I must be honest. It’s pretty sloppy. Jimmy goes off key and misses the beat MANY times. His best work was always in the studio.


14 posted on 09/30/2018 8:54:15 AM PDT by gibsonguy
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To: Eddie01
There are a lot of blues songs out there that seem to use the same chords all the time but have different lyrics. Bands pretty much rip off each other all the time using a little of this or that.
15 posted on 09/30/2018 9:03:26 AM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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To: gibsonguy

Kind of amazing to me. That solo is to me as perfect as Fanfare for the Common Man, Pink Floyd’s Time, or the Doors Light My Fire on Alive She Cried—the fake live version. Intoxicating stuff that transports me to a different place. If you’re into guitars enough to be “gibson guy” I have no doubt your knowledge far exceeds mine. I guess ignorance can be bliss. :)


16 posted on 09/30/2018 9:30:01 AM PDT by DC Bound (REBEL NOIR: http://www.claytonlindemuth.com/solomon-bull/)
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To: gibsonguy

He is not a live performer, period.


17 posted on 09/30/2018 9:54:59 AM PDT by waterhill (I Shall Remain, in spite of __________.)
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