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New York anti-vaxxers suing for right to infect public
Boing Boing ^ | 18 April 2019

Posted on 04/18/2019 10:31:20 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

As ongoing and growing measles outbreaks flare up around America some New York City anti-vaxxers are suing to block last-minute emergency measures city leaders are taking to slow the spread of infectious disease.

The anti-vaxxers are relying on the repetition of known bad science to carry the day.

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My grannies never had any vaccinations.

They did die young, but no possible connection?

And whatever you do: DO NOT LOSE YOUR SHOT RECORD. Best is a tattoo marking the injection site!

1 posted on 04/18/2019 10:31:20 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Can they deport the un vaxxed to the Island of the Black Syphilis?


2 posted on 04/18/2019 10:36:34 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!")
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Anti-vaxxers only endanger themselves. I am vaccinated, so are my kids. I’ve weighed the risk of vaccines vs. the very real historical threat of dying of communicable disease.

If some fool makes the opposite bet, that’s his problem, not mine.


3 posted on 04/18/2019 10:37:36 AM PDT by PGR88
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If some fool makes the opposite bet, that’s his problem, not mine.

Why are the people who got vaccinated therefore are immune so upset?

4 posted on 04/18/2019 10:42:22 AM PDT by itsahoot (Welcome to the New USA where Islam is a religion of peace and Christianity is a mental disorder.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Spoke to a friend in Rockland County, NY this morning. Evidently there is an internecine battle going on over this within the Jewish community there.


5 posted on 04/18/2019 10:43:10 AM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Stupid headline. Un-vaccinated children are the only ones more in danger of being infected by what they are not vaccinated against.


6 posted on 04/18/2019 10:43:26 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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MMR side effects

MMR

As with any medicine, there is a chance of a vaccine causing a serious injury or death.

The safety of vaccines is always being monitored. For more information, visit the vaccine safety web site.

This information is based on the LAIV VIS.

MMR vaccine side-effects (Measles, Mumps, and Rubella)

What are the risks from MMR vaccine?

With any medicine, including vaccines, there is a chance of reactions. These are usually mild and go away on their own, but serious reactions are also possible.

Getting MMR vaccine is much safer than getting measles, mumps, or rubella disease. Most people who get MMR vaccine do not have any problems with it.

After MMR vaccination, a person might experience:

Minor events:

  • Sore arm from the injection
  • Fever
  • Redness or rash at the injection site
  • Swelling of glands in the cheeks or neck

If these events happen, they usually begin within 2 weeks after the shot. They occur less often after the second dose.

Moderate events:

  • Seizure (jerking or staring) often associated with fever
  • Temporary pain and stiffness in the joints, mostly in teenage or adult women
  • Temporary low platelet count, which can cause unusual bleeding or bruising
  • Rash all over body

Severe events:

  • Deafness
  • Long-term seizures, coma, or lowered consciousness
  • Brain damage

7 posted on 04/18/2019 10:43:41 AM PDT by JonPreston ( The GOPe is on board with the North American Union and the European Union.)
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New York anti-vaxxers suing for right to infect public

As opposed to San Francisco AIDS carrying Homosexuals who kept the State enforced "Right" to infect the unvaccinated public since HIV was identified.

8 posted on 04/18/2019 10:45:38 AM PDT by Navy Patriot (America NEEDS Mob Rule, another European and Mid East World War and a universal Draft)
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To: PGR88

Even I still have my multi-page shot record, I would not push my luck.

Are any vaccinations a one time shot?

Most need a booster?

Every time I needed a stitch or two... you need...


9 posted on 04/18/2019 10:46:50 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!")
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“Anti-vaxxers only endanger themselves.”

That’s not really true. Epidemics are kind of like nuclear reactions; they need to reach a critical mass before they can sustain themselves. Certain people with compromised immune systems cannot be vaccinated. When everyone else gets the vaccine, an epidemic is prevented and the lower risk of exposure protects those who cannot.


10 posted on 04/18/2019 10:47:05 AM PDT by beef (Caution: Potential Sarcasm - Process Accordingly)
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To: Swordmaker

Not true.

The vaccines do not last forever and are not 100% effective.


11 posted on 04/18/2019 10:48:44 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!")
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Stop disease carrying illegals from entering our damned country...

Then and ONLY THEN, will i even consider criticizing anti-vaxxers.


12 posted on 04/18/2019 10:49:46 AM PDT by GraceG ("If I post an AWESOME MEME, STEAL IT! JUST RE-POST IT IN TWO PLACES PLEASE")
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To: DUMBGRUNT
In the lawsuit, the mothers claim that the outbreak does not constitute a dangerous epidemic (though the virus can cause severe complications and even death) and that the city's orders are "arbitrary and capricious."

Well, this is their mistake. The claim should simply be that being vaccinated does NOT PRECLUDE YOU FROM SPREADING THE DISEASE.

That simple fact alone puts the lie to the propaganda that not being vaccinated is a "public threat". A vaccination does not create some kind of magic force field around the recipient that prevents them from inhaling, ingesting or otherwise carrying the virus on their person.

If anyone would care to argue otherwise, have at it.

13 posted on 04/18/2019 10:50:12 AM PDT by Shethink13 (there are 0 electoral votes in the state of denial)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

How is a vaccinated public going to get the disease, exactly?


14 posted on 04/18/2019 10:51:47 AM PDT by thoughtomator (The Clinton Coup attempt was a worse attack on the USA than was 9/11)
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To: itsahoot

[ If some fool makes the opposite bet, that’s his problem, not mine.

Why are the people who got vaccinated therefore are immune so upset? ]

I tell all my pro-vaccine friends they are leaving money on the table if they are not getting gift cards by getting multiple flu shots ever week from their local chain drug store. as many have free flu shots and some even give away a gift card WITH the free flu shot..

If flu shots are great and harmless.... the pro-vaxxers are FOOLS!


15 posted on 04/18/2019 10:51:57 AM PDT by GraceG ("If I post an AWESOME MEME, STEAL IT! JUST RE-POST IT IN TWO PLACES PLEASE")
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To: JonPreston

And what is the occurrence of severe events?

And for fun, how does that compare to walking down the street in Chicago?


16 posted on 04/18/2019 10:52:26 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!")
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To: Swordmaker

What about un-vaccinated adults?
If they’ve already had the disease, I believe they are immune. But what if they haven’t?

When I was young there was no MMR vaccine. We just caught it and it ran its course. Both my parents had had it previously so there were no such worries.


17 posted on 04/18/2019 10:52:38 AM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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To: Navy Patriot

As opposed to San Francisco AIDS carrying Homos

Down on the farm, some of the animals are more equal than others.


18 posted on 04/18/2019 10:54:02 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ("The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!")
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To: DUMBGRUNT

As one who would like to pimp-slap Jenny McCarthy into next YEAR, I am still sticking up for these plaintiffs. This is not requiring vaccines to enter a school, university or job. This is requiring vaccines just because you exist in a certain part of the country. You could be sitting in your own private apartment in NYC all day every day, ordering everything from Amazon and Grub Hub, and you still are forced to get the shot.

We have spent years trying to tank Obozocare for the same reason. Mentally SMH.


19 posted on 04/18/2019 10:54:17 AM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Modern feminism: ALL MEN BAD!!!)
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To: GraceG

+1 on you comment of “Stop disease carrying illegals from entering our damned country...

Then and ONLY THEN, will i even consider criticizing anti-vaxxers.”


20 posted on 04/18/2019 10:55:40 AM PDT by TianaHighrider
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