Kirk: Did global warming destroy your planet?
Guardian: No, it was a species called democrats that came and destroyed all. Beware!
Posted on 06/18/2019 3:30:41 PM PDT by EdnaMode
Don’t you mean ‘heliocentric’?
I don't believe so. As I understand it, heliocentric would have the sun at center.
Geocentric has the Earth at the center of the universe. The ancient Greeks believed in a geocentric universe with Earth at the center. They also worked out mathematics which made possible predictions of dates and navigation.
When Galileo came along, he was going against thousands of years of "settled science".
Wow, I’d never heard the name before, there’s a bunch of titles by him listed here, looks like some are available for d/l.
http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/author/8301
Looks like the title you’re lookiig for is “First Cycle - H. Beam Piper and Michael Kurland”:
http://hammysbooks.blogspot.com/2011/09/first-cycle-h-beam-piper-and-michael.html
Thanks fieldmarshaldj. Red dwarf, like Proxima Centauri, but unlike that one, not a flare star.
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I wouldn’t mind a visit to Jack Teagarden’s star.
“The fastest mad-made object ever built, the Helios 2. At this speed it would only take around 43000 years.”
http://parkersolarprobe.jhuapl.edu/The-Mission/index.php
“At closest approach, Parker Solar Probe will be hurtling around the sun at approximately 430,000 miles per hour!”
This is about 3 times faster than the Helios 2 probe..
If there is life there we could send them a gift card for whenever.
12 light years still isn’t within easy driving distance...
It’s funny but warp drive and weaponry are about the only tech Ent and TOS have that we havent matched.
As far as is publicly known - there is a quote from a guy who would know that goes: “We can take ET home anytime we want ...”
Or you could use physics we don’t have (publicly know about) to skim above space-time and get there in a few hours/days.
So yes Nearby.
Living in 15th century Spain at the moment, I do not support crossing the unknown oceans at this time in human history until we have the muslim problem solved.
Only then, and maybe not even then, we can think about exploring the unknown oceans together as a united people, after we figure out how to solve other pressing needs like homelessness and roving bands of brigands. Let the Crown save its money and tell those Columbus people to pound sand and get a life.
Or you could read Liu Cixin’s excellent trilogy: The Three Body Problem, Dark Forest, and Death’s End which actually ends on a hopeful note after the solar system is converted into a 2-dimensional object.
Remember the best defense is to hide and the best offense is to take the other guy out before he knows you exist.
The fastest non-man-made object time to same distance just a few moments ...
1. “Living in 15th century Spain at the moment, I do not support crossing the unknown oceans at this time in human history until we have the muslim problem solved.” The Muslim problem was solved when Spain under Isabela went exploring.
2. The two situations - Spain in the 15th century, and the state of our exploring the universe today are not analogous.
3. The analogy would be apt if in the 15th century Isabela had set Spain on course to explore the moon. THAT would have been akin to our current facination with items of exploration we have a century or more before we will attain the means to investigate in person.
I misunderstood you. I though you were referencing the Greeks who did apprehend that the Sun was the center.
The analogy was apt your criticism aside.
Oddly the muslim problem persists to this day, inexplicable, eh?
To people living in the 15 C, the Atlantic ocean was as vast and unknowable as space seems to people in the 21 C.
As I said, your analogy was akin to Spain attempting to go to the moon.
“Oddly the muslim problem persists to this day, inexplicable, eh”
As far as the immediate Muslim problem to Spain in the 15th century, that problem had been taken care of with the defeat of the Moors. The problem you speak of now is a global problem unrelated to 15th century Spain directly.
You are making mixed (confused) metaphors.
You’re right on both counts. I recommend H. Beam Piper’s work to Freepers because of his conservative views. Alas, Piper committed suicide in 1964, after receiving one too many rejection slips. As a result, there is no longer a copyright on much of what he wrote; maybe he didn’t leave behind a family to claim rights. As for the rejected manuscript that sent him off the edge, it was found and published in the 1980s, under the name “Fuzzies and Other People.”
problem unrelated to 15th century Spain directly.
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