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Defending CONSTANTINE: The Twilight of an Empire and the Dawn of Christendom
Amazon ^ | Sep 2010 | Peter Leithart

Posted on 08/18/2019 3:56:10 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

There have been of late a splurge of populist history books damning Constantine the Great as the villain of the piece. Almost without exception they have drawn their picture of this most complex and complicated of late-antique Roman emperors from secondhand, clichéd and hackneyed books of an older generation, adding their own clichés in the process. Constantine has been sketched luridly, as the man who corrupted Christianity either by financial or military means. At long last we have here, in Peter Leithart, a writer who knows how to tell a lively story but is also no mean shakes as a scholarly historian.

This intelligent and sensitive treatment of one of the great military emperors of Rome is a trustworthy entrée into Roman history that loses none of the romance and rambunctiousness of the events of the era of the civil war, but which also explains why Constantine matters: why he was important to the ancient world, why he matters to the development of Christianity (a catalyst in its movement from small sect to world-embracing cultural force). It does not whitewash or damn on the basis of a preset ideology, but it certainly does explain why Constantine gained from the Christians the epithet 'The Great.' For setting the record straight, and for providing a sense of the complicated lay of the land, this book comes most highly recommended. (John A. McGuckin, Columbia University)


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TOPICS: History; Religion
KEYWORDS: ancientrome; catholic; christendom; christianity; constantine; romanempire; rome
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1 posted on 08/18/2019 3:56:10 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

The are many good things about the internet but on the bad side are all the anti Christian videos claiming Rome created Christianity for one reason or another or that Jesus didn’t even exist and other nonsense.

But for folks who don’t know too much, it can sway them.

Knowing Roman history would help them see how nonsensical the claims are.


2 posted on 08/18/2019 4:02:38 PM PDT by dp0622 (Bad, bad company Till the day I die.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Hope Leithart can get John Batchelor to review book


3 posted on 08/18/2019 4:10:13 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (mosesdapoet aka L,J,Keslin posting for the record hoping some might read and pass around)
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To: dp0622

Of course Rome didn’t create Christianity .... however, it surely changed it.

Exhibit 1: Nicene Creed. When Christ cried out on the cross ‘My God, My God .... why hast thou forsaken me’ ....

Christ was not crying out to himself! The Nicene Creed has been placed higher than the Bible in determining ‘Heresy’.

A person’s beliefs can be in accordance with the Bible, yet he is still labelled a heretic if he does not subscribe to the Nicene Creed.

Truly the tail has been waging the dog within what is known as Orthodox Christian Christology.


4 posted on 08/18/2019 4:15:33 PM PDT by teppe
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To: teppe

What, specifically, is in the Creed that is not in the Bible?

Seriously asking.


5 posted on 08/18/2019 4:18:20 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (The media is after us. Trump's just in the way.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

I collect ancient Roman coins. You can find genuine Constantine coins about the size of a dime, on eBay for only a few dollars. You won’t find Christian symbols on his coins, but later ones will show the chi-rho (looks like a P on an X) which indicate a Christian Roman emperor.


6 posted on 08/18/2019 4:19:15 PM PDT by hanamizu
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To: hanamizu; CondoleezzaProtege
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7 posted on 08/18/2019 4:43:14 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: dp0622

The most interesting aspect is that Constantine unwittingly started the process that ended slavery in most of the world.


8 posted on 08/18/2019 4:52:13 PM PDT by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept? Vive Deo et Vives)
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To: Alas Babylon!; teppe
What, specifically, is in the Creed that is not in the Bible?

Nothing.

My guess is that teppe subscribes to some form of the Arian heresy.

Denial of the true divinity of Jesus Christ taking various specific forms, but all agreed that Jesus Christ was created by the Father, that he had a beginning in time, and that the title "Son of God" was a courtesy one.

All forms of Arianism denied that Jesus Christ is "consubstantial with the Father" but proposed either "similar in substance", or "similar", or "dissimilar" as the correct alternative.

9 posted on 08/18/2019 4:56:28 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: teppe
Psalm 22.

Your assignment: read it from beginning to end. Comment on its status as prophecy. Thank you.

10 posted on 08/18/2019 5:14:51 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: teppe

The christological theology that developed in the early Church was a response to Christians who read the Bible and concluded that Jesus wasn’t God, as well as to those read the Bible and concluded that Jesus wasn’t a human being, the most extreme ones claiming that he didn’t even have a true physical body. Kudos to the Fathers of the councils, and to God, for straightening that out.


11 posted on 08/18/2019 5:16:56 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (The more I learn about people, the more I like my dog.)
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To: teppe

Hear, Hear! Very nicely said.
Acts 2:36 makes it plain for those who have ears.
One God and one Lord, simple.


12 posted on 08/18/2019 5:45:22 PM PDT by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

It was great that he could cast out demons, and the Zippo lighter thing was cool.


13 posted on 08/18/2019 5:50:29 PM PDT by I-ambush (One foot in the grave, one foot on the pedal I was born to rebel.)
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To: Pontiac

The dispute between Orthodoxy and the Latin Church is primarily whether the Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son, or only from the Father (in the Nicene creed, the Latin word is “filioque”)


14 posted on 08/18/2019 5:57:44 PM PDT by I-ambush (One foot in the grave, one foot on the pedal I was born to rebel.)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

Before Constantine the day of Saturday was the Christian sabbath. Constantine decreed Sunday to be the new Christian sabbath. Sunday was the day used by Pagans who worshipped the Sun. A lot of pagan symbols are used by Christians to this day.


15 posted on 08/18/2019 6:03:34 PM PDT by Demanwideplan
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But Christ rose from the dead on Sunday.

In some languages the word of “Sunday” does not have to do with the “Sun” but with “Day of the LORD” (Domingo/Domenica/Dimanche in Spanish/Italian/French respectively)

Or ‘voskreseniye’ (’Resurrection’) in Russian etc...

During the French Revolution, radical secularists changed the calendar and removed Sunday altogether, paganizing high holy days, and threw B.C./A.D. on its head by beginning time itself with the founding of the French Republic. Threw the population in for a loop for a good decade plus!


16 posted on 08/18/2019 6:41:17 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: Demanwideplan

False. The Christian day of worship, the Lord’s Day, has always been Sunday. I can prove what I say. What’s your evidence?


17 posted on 08/18/2019 7:13:32 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Demanwideplan

Even SDA scholars admit that Christians kept a Sunday sabbath observance long before Constantine.


18 posted on 08/18/2019 8:39:55 PM PDT by Campion ((marine dad))
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To: teppe
Christ was not crying out to himself!

Trinitarians don't think that he was; the Athanasian creed quite clearly explains that the Son is not the Father.

19 posted on 08/18/2019 8:43:29 PM PDT by Campion ((marine dad))
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To: Campion; teppe

“Let us make man in our image.” [Genesis 1:26]

Elohim: The noun has a masculine plural ending.


20 posted on 08/18/2019 9:44:34 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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