You can't say with a straight face that 8chan is no different than Twitter, YouTube or Instagram. All of those platforms are heavily censored in multiple dimensions (try posting porn on your Facebook and see how long you have an account.)
8chan had a unique Wild Wild West posting ethos. Yes, there were limits, yes the latest manifesto may have been posted elsewhere first, and was quickly deleted by the mods.
But that doesn't change that day-in and day-out for years and years 8chan tolerated base anti-semitism, Nazi larping, crude racism, serious advocates of white nationalism, all interspersed with lots of porn.
Which is why, LONG LONG before their internet service providers yanked the rug out from under them, and took them offline (probably forever), JimRob had forbidden content and links from there.
A policy you yourself have dutifully enforced on the Q threads. (Thank you!).
I think that 8chan was lucky to have skated by in the post-ban era for as long as it did, but its days were numbered. Once the internet czars took the Daily Stormer off line, and succeeded, it was clear that they would go after lots and lots of other sites as the got around to it.
PS: Seeing as I've been accused of being a "paid shill" -- and I know for sure that I am not -- I have come to think that the constant accusation that everyone who has inconvenient opinions is paid opposition is a form of denial.
There were plenty of wack-jobs posting on 8chan every day, the Government, or Deep State, or George Soros or whoever didn't have to pay anyone to post completely un-PC stuff on that board. Many legit anons did it for free, with great pleasure.
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(that is true)
And even some (((Freepers))) got into the act, right Soya?
Stop with the disimilation, Captain two-face.
Seeing as I've been accused of being a "paid shill" -- and I know for sure that I am not...
Good enough for me. Haha.
Haffast and KitJ, handle my light work.
#FungusAmongUs
“But that doesn’t change that day-in and day-out for years and years 8chan tolerated base anti-semitism...”
Apparently Free Republic allows a bit as well and doesn’t ban anti-Semitic posters as evidenced by the fact you’re still here....
I personally think that free speech means free to be an a$$ and free to say things people find abhorrent. That’s why I don’t call for bans of people like you, and instead choose to expose them. Free speech means you are free to post your anti-Semitic comments and we are free to point them out for all to see.
As to your claim to be unpaid, well I’m trying to decide which is worse; a troll doing their job, earning money to support themselves and their families, or a troll who gladly does it for free. Kind of like the difference between a prostitute and a whore. I can at least respect the prostitute.
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There's no point in my responding to Jack Black directly as he has an agenda that's not influenced by information.
I wasn't going to respond at all because I think most on this thread can spot the distortions in his post, but then I recalled that we have new names popping up as time goes on so I will make a few comments which I hope will be helpful.
Here's an example - my original remarks were clearly about the accusations leveled at 8ch that they are a breeding ground for mass shooters.
Jack quotes me, "Manifestos were posted on Instagram, livestreamed, Facebook and Youtube. They don't originate on the chans...."
Then he responds to what I said with, "You can't say with a straight face that 8chan is no different than Twitter, YouTube or Instagram."
Did you see that Straw Man argument Jack propped up? I never said that those platforms were all the same, I said that the manifestos didn't originate on the chans and were posted on other platforms. If you bother to read Jack Black's posts, look for that distortion technique - it's one of his calling cards.
Then Jack takes his Straw Man argument out for a walk: "But that doesn't change that day-in and day-out for years and years 8chan tolerated base anti-semitism, Nazi larping, crude racism, serious advocates of white nationalism, all interspersed with lots of porn."
THIS is Jack's response to my comments about manifestos and the idea that 8ch does not incubate mass shooters? Everything EXCEPT the topic of mass shooters? Actually - it's just him embellishing his distortion. This stroll of Jack's is made all the more ironic because Jack has been called out a few times now for posting antisemitism on Free Republic. Yes. Really.
Jack said, "8chan had a unique Wild Wild West posting ethos."
Not really. 8chan has posting rules which state boards hosting illegal content will be deleted. The ENTIRE BOARD hosting illegal content will be deleted. That doesn't seem like the Wild West to me.
8chan has a free speech ethos. If it's not illegal, they allow it. This means crazy haters posting next to patriots - the patriots ignore the cray cray. In fact, I think some of them regard the cray cray as a handy KEEP OUT sign - they want people who will disrupt the flow of ideas with complaints to KEEP OUT, even if they personally find the cray cray repulsive. They skip it and read on.
Jack says the content of his Straw Man argument (anti-semitism, Nazi larping, crude racism etc. on 8chan) "...is why, LONG LONG before their internet service providers yanked the rug out from under them, and took them offline (probably forever), JimRob had forbidden content and links from there."
Actually, until JimRob makes a statement elaborating on his thoughts about this issue, I'll stick with what I know first-hand. A troll pinged JimRob from one of our threads claiming we were posting 8chan links and asserting 8chan was a known kiddie porn site. All our posts were taken down and I was asked not to post any more Q threads. I explained that we were NOT POSTING 8chan links and all our threads were reinstated. The Mod explained that 8chan links would not be permitted going forward.
I have always thought JimRob was wise to make that decision to restrict 8ch links, although it can be inconvenient at times. Whenever Q comes under particular attack, shills flood 8chan will repulsive kiddie porn and other repellent content - it really becomes a cesspool and then regular readers warn the rest of us, "Stay away! 8ch is under attack and it's unbelievable what's being posted! GAH!" At times like those, and during this period of time that 8chan is falsely portrayed as an incubator for mass shooters, Free Republic's decision not to post links is paying dividends. JimRob deprived anti-conservatives of a stick with which to beat us.
I have read 8chan so I find this comment by Jack silly, "Once the internet czars took the Daily Stormer off line, and succeeded, it was clear that they would go after lots and lots of other sites as the got around to it." First they went for the Daily Stormer (nazi site) and then they went for 8ch, eh? No, 8chan and Daily Stormer are not equivalent at all. Autists helping WIN the war against the Deep State are in no way similar to Daily Stormer Nazis.
8chan was taken down because Q was posting there and people were being red-pilled. Public opinion was CHANGING (still is) and the Deep State wanted to staunch the flow of information the MSM conceals and distorts, when they are not outright fabricating "FAKE NEWS" to bring down our president.
Instagram, YOUTUBE, Twitter etc. have "standards" against porn, but also against conservative opinion and Q. 8chan had no restrictions on conservative thought and Q - and that's why so much media attention has focused on destroying 8ch. People can post PRO TRUMP memes and MAGA on 8ch without fear of deletion, shadow banning etc.
Also worth noting, some of these big tech or social media websites do host porn or other objectionable content but don't admit it. I'd heard that about YOUTUBE from a 17 year old boy I mentor. He'd seen some sick stuff (kiddie porn). I tried to search one of the terms he mentioned and found a profile photograph of a YOUTUBER (male) who was more than "just" naked (particularly proud of his body and excited to show us). I know Amazon hosts or was caught hosting pornography because I recall it came under attack for it. These big tech sites don't openly reveal content that could hurt the bottom line.
This is the smallest victim card I've seen Jack play: "PS: Seeing as I've been accused of being a "paid shill" -- and I know for sure that I am not -- I have come to think that the constant accusation that everyone who has inconvenient opinions is paid opposition is a form of denial."
Jack's history on our Q threads is long and tedious. Were I to go out and collect links to all the negative statements he's made about people who post on the Q threads (not just Q, but people who post on our threads), it would take me forever and you'd find them remarkably repetitive. So repetitive in fact, that you might even call them talking points. Although he has portrayed us and our Q threads as toxic for a very long time now, he still seems to read every post!
He tried to start his Anti-Q thread within our Q thread. He opused off our threads and pushed the Microchip/Posobiec hoax long after both were (easily and thoroughly) exposed as fake news. When his attempts to build a following failed , he came slithering back to our threads. He still includes the following criticism of us on his profile page as of this writing:
Jack: "Q believers found this analysis incredibly irritating, and I eventually chose self-exile from their threads to avoid then endless stream of rude invective and insults directed at me from the believers."
Get that? On our threads we subject him to an "endless stream of rude invective and insults" and note he calls us "the believers" to portray us as a cult. Yet, he jest cain't quit us...
Jack is wrong about Microchip
Jack is wrong about Posobiec
Jack is wrong about Q
Jack is wrong about Q threads
Jack is wrong about FReeQs
Jack is wrong about 8chan
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His persistence, consistency and talking point style have led many of us to conclude he is a shill. Your mileage may vary. Perhaps it could just be an unhealthy obsession? :/
True I assume you were therethe Government, or Deep State, or George Soros or whoever didn't have to pay anyone to post completely un-PC stuff on that board. Many legit anons did it for free, with great pleasure.
Great example of how full of excrement you are. You don't have any idea who was posting what over there. You can't offer one single fact to back up your assertions. It is pure B.S. and you just hope no one notices. You probably posted that crap over there and you are a shill. You tried that muh Jew crap here and it didn't fly.
You are a waste Wish you'd find another hobby