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Flubros and Flubras! Day 113 ( a place for Flubros and Flubras)
www.freerepublic.com ^ | 12 July 2020 | Impimp

Posted on 07/12/2020 4:48:14 AM PDT by impimp

It’s just the flu, bro.

A Flubro mentioned this yesterday. I guess this cheap steroid, which acts as an anti inflammatory agent in the lungs, is good at treating CV, which harms people by causing an inflammatory response in the lungs.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/cheap-steroid-first-drug-shown-reduce-death-covid-19-patients

As treatments improve the death rate will continue to drop. A declaration that the epidemic is over must be coming soon. An infectious disease needs to be above a minimum threshold death rate to be called an epidemic. And we are already below that threshold.


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KEYWORDS: antisciencemeeting; coronavirus; deathsrisingbro; denialbros
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It’s just the flu, bro.

A Flubro mentioned this yesterday. I guess this cheap steroid, which acts as an anti inflammatory agent in the lungs, is good at treating CV, which harms people by causing an inflammatory response in the lungs.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/06/cheap-steroid-first-drug-shown-reduce-death-covid-19-patients

As treatments improve the death rate will continue to drop. A declaration that the epidemic is over must be coming soon. An infectious disease needs to be above a minimum threshold death rate to be called an epidemic. And we are already below that threshold.

1 posted on 07/12/2020 4:48:14 AM PDT by impimp
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Ping. Freepmail Impimp to go on the ping list.


2 posted on 07/12/2020 4:49:01 AM PDT by impimp
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There is an overall typical failure to to differentiate btwn different fatality rates, and one reason for the all-ages general “shutdown” is because the fatality rate is exaggerated by typically citing the case fatality rate (CFR) - which is high since it refers to those who were known or suspected to be infected and died, and overall, those who have tested positive are those who had symptoms, thus were the most likely to die - but as World Meters states[1],

The key point is that the “case fatality rate”, the most commonly discussed measure of the risk of dying What we want to know isn’t the case fatality rate: it’s the infection fatality rate.

The latter refers to those estimated to be infected but not tested as being so, and which by far is the majority, with about 80% of such not having symptoms or recovering without medical care. [2] And as regards (even) New York City - which is an extreme case, WorldMeters stated that of May 1,

the Infection Fatality Rate (IFR) = Deaths / Cases = 23,430 / 1,694,781 = 1.4% (1.4% of people infected with SARS-CoV-2 have a fatal outcome, while 98.6% recover).

However, and even more accurate figure as regards the threat COVID-19 poses is that of the Crude Mortality Rate (CMR) that of deaths per 100,000, and Worldometers stated that

As of May 1, 23,430 people are estimated to have died out of a total population of 8,398,748 in New York City. This corresponds to a 0.28% crude mortality rate to date, or 279 deaths per 100,000 population, or 1 death every 358 people.

Then you have the Mortality Rate by Age, regarding which,

“in New York City up to May 12, only 690 (4.5% of all deaths) occurred in patients under the age of 65 who did not have an underlying medical condition.” While those under 65-year-old had a 0.09% CMR to date.

So far there has been 1 death every 1,166 people under 65 years old (compared to 1 death every 358 people in the general population). And 89% of the times, the person who died had one or more underlying medical conditions.

And as noted, NYC is an outlier, with a far higher rate of infections, much due to population density and the harmful pratice of sending infected persons to nursing homes. And close to half of all COVID-19 deaths have occurred in long-term care facilities, especially elder care facilities which account for over 40% of US deaths. [3] [4]

Which means that the 99.4 percent of the country that does not reside in those facilities is roughly half as likely to die of COVID-19,[8] even to the fatality rate of COVID-19 probably being “0.13 percent for people outside nursing homes and 0.26 percent — identical to the CDC best estimate — when people in nursing homes were included.”[5]

See Does COVID-19 truly warrant a nationwide shutdown? for more.

The second reason for the unprecedented reaction to COVID-19 is that of the Democrat political goal to strangle the economy and thereby obtain the White House and force submission to its many immoral demonic and murderous goals.

Footnotes

[1] Mortality Risk of COVID-19 - Statistics and Research
[2] https://www.who.int/docs/default-source/coronaviruse/situation-reports/20200306-sitrep-46-covid-19.pdf?sfvrsn=96b04adf_4#:~:text=For%20COVID%2D19%2C,infections%2C%20requiring%20ventilation.
[3] STAGGERING: Nursing Home Residents Account for a Whopping 43.4% of COVID-19 Deaths, Even Though They're Less Than 1% of the U.S. Population
[4] More Than 40% of U.S. Coronavirus Deaths Are Linked to Nursing Homes
[5] https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/tell-me-what-to-do-please-even-experts-struggle-with-coronavirus-unknowns/2020/05/25/e11f9870-9d08-11ea-ad09-8da7ec214672_story.html

3 posted on 07/12/2020 5:00:25 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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An infectious disease needs to be above a minimum threshold death rate to be called an epidemic

The current Crude Morality Rate is 415 Americans out of 100,000, which I think translates into a 0.42 percentage, but that is skewed by deaths of the very aged and unhealthy, and high rates in New Jersey, New York, Connecticut, Massachusetts, and includes deaths of those presumed to be infected.

4 posted on 07/12/2020 5:09:15 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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5 posted on 07/12/2020 5:11:15 AM PDT by JonPreston
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I understand why in the context of the situation, but that will cost him votes.


6 posted on 07/12/2020 5:13:51 AM PDT by who knows what evil? (Yehovah saved more animals than people on the ark...siameserescue.org88)
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IBK


7 posted on 07/12/2020 5:14:02 AM PDT by Mom MD
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who would it cost him votes with, and why?


8 posted on 07/12/2020 5:14:50 AM PDT by JonPreston
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“who would it cost him votes with, and why?”

With me.
Caving to a hoax.


9 posted on 07/12/2020 5:19:09 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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With me.

So you won't be voting for Trump?

10 posted on 07/12/2020 5:22:11 AM PDT by JonPreston
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Hey, where’s the “head up the butt” guy?


11 posted on 07/12/2020 5:29:00 AM PDT by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!)
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I have plenty of differences of opinion with Trump but will crawl over burning broken glass to vote for him.

You win moron of the century.

Glad you have an easy to remember name so it will be simple to ignore any future posts from you.


12 posted on 07/12/2020 5:29:24 AM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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13 posted on 07/12/2020 5:29:47 AM PDT by JonPreston
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who would it cost him votes with, and why?

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Why would you try to instigate by posting that photo?


14 posted on 07/12/2020 5:31:42 AM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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Where is the habitual liar kozak. Caught posting lies on two different threads Last 48 hours and to afraid to respond to a real doctor. That’s right kozak you May have a degree but you have violated your oaths. And you are too much of a wuss to answer factual arguments.

But we will await your banal pedagogy that makes you the hero of the other imbecilic FEARPERS


15 posted on 07/12/2020 5:38:37 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: bramps

I believe he was visiting a hospital and COVID ward. The mask was fine for that.


16 posted on 07/12/2020 5:39:37 AM PDT by gas_dr (Trial lawyers AND POLITICIANS are Endangering Every Patient in America: INCLUDING THEIR LIBERTIES)
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To: bramps

The president is wearing a mask because of Covid 19, not the flu, so that pic is on topic.


17 posted on 07/12/2020 5:39:51 AM PDT by JonPreston
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Related: 3 States Account for 42 Percent of All COVID-19 Deaths in America. Why?
18 posted on 07/12/2020 5:39:58 AM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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To: gas_dr

Thanks for that info.


19 posted on 07/12/2020 5:45:08 AM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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To: gas_dr

Good morning, gas_dr, following everything with interest, protesting against masks by not going anywhere they are required, and not wearing one where “recommended”.

Keep rocking.


20 posted on 07/12/2020 5:48:11 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Prediction: G. Maxwell will surprise everyone by not dying anytime soon.)
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