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Trump needs to put to bed the "killed 200,000" lie.
Today | Me

Posted on 09/23/2020 1:06:00 PM PDT by Fido969

He is being bludgeoned with this. At the press conference yesterday, the reporters managed to work it into about 4 questions. He will have trouble getting traction unless he can get this behind him.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: bidenvoters; coronavirus; fakenews
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They need to get this out clearly and directly.

Facts: Trump started acting on this as soon as he was told there was a problem.

Original estimates were up to 2 million dead. That was in the public knowledge. If he downplayed that because he though mitigation would work, he was exactly right. Team Trump needs to hammer that hard, because the press won't stop yapping about the Woodward quote. That needs to be quashed completely.

Fauci has agreed he didn't mislead the public.

Equipment and supplies were ramped up in a hurry. There was a lot of concern about ventilators, but that was taken care of.

He shut travel down when the dems were resisting. Aside from some nursing homes in Washington state, as a result the virus didn't break out early on the west coast.

The dems were telling people to go to the Chinese new year.

Cuomo was sending sick to nursing homes, killing tens of thousands.

He moved quickly to shut down the economy.

The mask debate is a sideshow, and there have always been expert people on both sides. The mask has become a political shaming statement.

The message now is too disjointed, fragmented and unclear. This needs to be spelled out. He is getting beat up on this every day. Everytone Pelosi mention a it, run the visit chinatown tape. Every time Biden mentions it, run the xenophobia tape, and every other wrong comment he made early on.

Team Trump for a long time was able to respond quickly, but now their messaging is slow and bogged down.

1 posted on 09/23/2020 1:06:00 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: Fido969

Twas the RATs who attacked Trump for shutting off travel.


2 posted on 09/23/2020 1:07:34 PM PDT by Seruzawa (TANSTAAFL!)
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To: Fido969

A Democratic friend of mine insists that if the US had managed to Covid as well as Korea did, the death toll would be a couple thousand. She insists that the deaths beyond that are all Trump’s fault.


3 posted on 09/23/2020 1:08:31 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Fido969

Dude, this is ALL a coordinated attack on Trump by the Rats and their media accomplices.

They were planning for months (along with Woodward) to release the COVID attack ads in September.

It is VERY transparent. They are choreographing ALL of it.


4 posted on 09/23/2020 1:09:08 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus
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To: Fido969

There is no context to these numbers. How many of the 200K would have died of their comorbidities anyway or due to other factors like the flu?

The scum in the media are making it sound as if these were perfectly healthy 200,000 Americans who died because the Trump administration didn’t do enough? Hogwash!


5 posted on 09/23/2020 1:09:20 PM PDT by NohSpinZone (First thing we do, let's kill all the lawyers)
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To: married21

Your friend is stupid. Get a new friend.


6 posted on 09/23/2020 1:09:28 PM PDT by norcal joe
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To: married21
A Democratic friend of mine

There should be no such thing.

7 posted on 09/23/2020 1:10:14 PM PDT by ConservativeInPA ("War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength." - George Orwell, 1984)
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To: married21

Get a new friend.


8 posted on 09/23/2020 1:10:18 PM PDT by ChuckHam
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To: Fido969

Sorry about the typos. I posted from my stupid “smart” phone.


9 posted on 09/23/2020 1:11:00 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: married21

Democratic? Or, Democrat?


10 posted on 09/23/2020 1:11:09 PM PDT by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.S)
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To: NohSpinZone

Yes, we all know that. Just saying “excess deaths,” etc. doesn’t get the point across. It need to he clear and to the public. Arguing with these lying reporters is pointless, they aren’t interested with the truth.


11 posted on 09/23/2020 1:13:33 PM PDT by Fido969
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To: Fido969

The 200,000 number is a crock.
They are counting people as having died of the China Virus that were never tested for the China Virus.
They are counting people who would have died anyway from other factors simply because they tested positive.


12 posted on 09/23/2020 1:13:43 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizens Are Born Here of Citizen Parents|Know Islam, No Peace-No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: married21
Assuming it's South Korea she's talking about, they immediately instituted border controls and enforced quarantines on foreign travelers from affect countries (this was back in March). Might wanna remind her that President Trump wanted to do that but was called a racist for it, though I suspect that'll do no good.

The part of this whole Wuhan Flu thing I remember is NO ONE was talking about it AT ALL on any of the MSM outlets; the first I heard was in the President's State of the Union address. What does that tell ya about the opposition and how far ahead the President was with this?
13 posted on 09/23/2020 1:15:26 PM PDT by Retrofitted
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To: Fido969

Concern troll is concerned


14 posted on 09/23/2020 1:16:19 PM PDT by Phil DiBasquette
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To: married21

“A Democratic friend of mine”

You write that casually, like it’s not degenerate and disgusting.


15 posted on 09/23/2020 1:17:18 PM PDT by coaster123 (Distrust everyone under sixty.)
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only a true nut case would believe that....


16 posted on 09/23/2020 1:17:36 PM PDT by basalt
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To: Flavious_Maximus
....not only THAT ! the entire Pandemic is fake, it was timed by the bill and melinda Gates foundation to coincide with the expected spike in natural deaths of Baby Boomers. Old people almost all die of lung ailments, of which there are many.

the 200,000 number was released to the MSM liar/propaganda machine by John hopkins University Medical Center which is an arm of the Bill Gates Foundation which announce this "pandemic" as "event 201" to see what would happen

well it took off like a grass fire and here we are wearing masks and hiding in our houses like cowardly fools

17 posted on 09/23/2020 1:17:54 PM PDT by KTM rider (, Virus protection isn't just for your computer anymore, we gotta pay up and pay dearly)
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To: married21

Why do you give a rats ass what a marxist democrat has to say about anything? Stop acting like a democrat, stop being a Karen. Trump is a lot smarter than you, and knows what strategy he is following, you don’t; so sit back and watch the master at work.


18 posted on 09/23/2020 1:20:07 PM PDT by fatman6502002 ((The Team The Team The Team - Bo Schembechler circa 1969))
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To: Fido969

They didn’t even count H1N1 ‘positives’ or deaths. Thy did wild arse guessing and went with the middle number between high and low estimate.


19 posted on 09/23/2020 1:20:57 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Joe Biden- "First thing I'd do is repeal those Trump tax cuts." (May 4th, 2019)l)
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To: Fido969

200,000...

94% of whom died from or with co-morbidities that were as big a factor or even the ACTUAL cause of death.

94% that includes:
Automobile accidents
Motorcycle accidents
Heart disease
Stroke
Renal failure due to chronic kidney disease
Flu/Pneumonia
uncontrolled diabetes
gunshot wounds
traumatic head injuries
falls
domestic abuse
assaults
liver failure
Alzheimer’s/dementia
etc.

The ONLY criteria to be included in this 200,000 tally is that you die WITH COVID (as confirmed by testing) or even were PRESUMED to have had COVID (even if never tested/confirmed). Never mind that doctors were diagnosing COVID without testing - for symptoms that also align with a bunch of other illnesses.

One of my church members passed away a couple months ago from renal failure+ heart failure. She had been on dialysis for almost 2 years, but had gone over a week without getting her treatment due to COVID causing schedule issues. She was finally sent to a local hospital because her port had clogged up (as happens when you get bumped from your dialysis appointment too many times). They had to do more than expected to repair the line and gave her anesthesia - which she never awoke from. She never showed ANY symptoms of COVID - but they had done a test when she got to the hospital (standard procedure) that supposedly returned positive. So guess what was on her death certificate....


20 posted on 09/23/2020 1:21:30 PM PDT by TheBattman (Democrats-Progressives-Marxists-Socialists - redundant labels.)
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