Posted on 12/08/2020 8:22:43 AM PST by knarf
Seriously, just what IS a "case" of Covid ?
Notice how we went from Covid to coronavirus and now back to Covid again.
How is Covid determined and what is a "case"
Does a case mean something as simple as having a couple of symptoms (common to flu) or is a case a hospital stay ?
I’ll throw in a can of squelch and a box of grid squares.
Well THAT pretty much says ..... nothing.
totally un-readable
I think it could be more than positive tests. In some places, you could have the symptoms and are “presumed” to have CoVid because you can’t get tested very quickly, and by the time the result is back, the quarantine time is finished. This happened to someone who works with my husband (virtually).
He had a sore throat and a cough, and a mild fever. The tests in his area were backed up for nearly 2 weeks. The doctor told him that he was “presumed “ to have CoVid, and to stay home from work. He wrote him a doctors note that said he had to quarantine for 2 weeks before he could go back to his facility, plus remain fever free for at least 24 hours if it got worse late in the cycle. This was late summer in Texas.
The guy could work virtually from home once he was better, which was about a week, but they wouldn’t allow him into the facility until his quarantine period was over. He was reported to the state health board as having CoVid, and his facility was notified by them (and him, too).
So you don’t even have to have a positive test result to be a “case.”
Fun fact about CRV for my fellow Commifornians. And I didn't know this until I started purchasing beverages for the store. We pay the 5 cent CRV as well as you. That means each bottle actually is taxed 10 cents, not 5.
It says the number of cycles they run on the PCR test makes all the difference in the world. If they ran 60 cycles it would have 100% positives.
Oh wait, I heard somebody cough, but it down as another case!
A friend in her late 40’s tested positive for COVID. She said it was maybe a little worse than an average cold, has totally recovered. Her husband and children all tested negative.
Another friends mother was sixty seven, very active and had a mild heart condition. She died in her sleep in July and the coroner listed it as a COVID death, the only symptom prior to her death was she was very fatigued.
We asked my husbands heart transplant team (immunosuppressed) if any of their people with transplants had gotten COVID. Six have tested positive, five of them reported bad cold symptoms and recovered fine at home. One did require a two day stay in hospital and was sent home and fully recovered.
What i have learned, is that the cases are not unique. Local business owner had an employee test positive. So he had to test negative twice to come back to work. Each time the employee goes and gets a test, and tests positive, its a “new case” on the books. HIPAA makes it impossible to track cases uniquely per person when people are going to these test centers.
Think about this for a moment.
Whatever a “case” is...it’s not affecting death stats..
These are Oregon total death stats for past several years, ....THIS tells the TRUTH...each State likely has similar stats...a “friend” on MEWE posted this...
From the Oregon website, the number of total DEATHS since 2015. Here you go:
2015- 35,709
2016- 35,799
2017- 36,640
2018- 36,191
2019- 37,397
And here you go...YEAR TO DATE
(December 1) 2020........32,330!
And for this we are allowing a tyrannical Governor to destroy our state??? I for one, am not going to be quiet. You better research the “plan” and make some NOISE!!!
Go ahead and fact check here:point_down::point_down::point_down:
https://www.oregon.gov/oha/ph/birthdeathcertificates/vitalstatistics
Thanks for pointing that out.
A positive test, and we know the tests produce lots of false positives.
In the opening paragraph:
"Surveillance case definitions are not intended to be used by healthcare providers for making a clinical diagnosis or determining how to meet an individual patient’s health needs."
We are being SO hosed.
A positive case is anyone with or without symptoms who had a test that might give 40% false positive results, with the test administered in a parking lot by half trained individuals with the tests batched processed by the thousands with slipshod results.
Anyone who tests positive for Covid or showed symptoms but couldn’t be tested. We do Contact Tracing here.
Yeah, but which is worse? The beer or the virus? That's a toss up.
I actually believe they are using the term “case” to refer to “positive test”.
The type of test they use was not designed for public health. The PRC (or PCR) was designed for research so it detects even dead viral strands of a family of Corona viruses up to 60 days or more after the person contracted the virus - even if they never became SICK. So the test currently or often used now is believed to generate up to 90% false positives.
So the CDC generates false positives, declares people who obviously are not sick to be “asymptomatic” and as they test more and more people (getting more false positives) they claim Covid “Cases” are increasing. It’s such a scam.
If you die within 60 days of getting a positive covid test (more likely than not, a false positive), then your death is counted as a Covid death. A reporter confirmed at a conference this would include death by automobile accident counted as Covid - but the “medical professional” reminded the reporter this number would be statistically small.
So heart attack, chronic illnesses, COPD, Cancer deaths all counted as Covid.
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