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A Clarification Please... (Vanity)
Curious... | 8/16/21 | Openurmind

Posted on 08/16/2021 3:44:48 PM PDT by Openurmind

I would like some clarification as to the truth of the rules and situation here on the FR. Several times over the last few years it has been mandated by certain users that a prerequisite for participating here, conversing here, or donating here is mandated that you must first be a White Puritan Christian. No exceptions or you are considered a Troll. You must believe what they believe exactly or you should hit the highway.

Anyone else conservative or not, are to be considered as just trolls and should excommunicate themselves and leave. This is an important clarification. Because if the owner Jim feels that only Christians of a certain Christian sect are allowed equal respect here or not. That certain one sect needs to be shared. Those who are not of that particular sect deserve the right to know that their participation and donations are not actually appreciated.

Is see animosity between even sects of Christianity battling each other here. Hate for Mormons, Hate for Catholics from Christians, Hate for Christians from Catholics, God forbid anyone who comes here and is honest and says they are an Orthodox Christian from ETHIOPIA! So what is it? Is this a domain site rule and mandate or not? Those of us who believe in the first amendment and freedom of speech and religion would like to know what the parameters are. What sect exactly is a prerequisite to participate here?

Are non Christians allowed here at all? Can one believe in God without belonging to a formal religious sect? Are any other faiths allowed based on freedom of religion? Please make this very clear, because if there is an underlying prerequisite and unwritten rule, there are many of us here who are not quite pure Bible thumping (perfect mandated sect) conservatives and would really like to know. Is our own Constitutional right to believe as we like respected here or not?

It is important to know... If those who do not fit the "exact parameters" judged as a prerequisite mandate are not appreciated and not equally respected or not. What are these please? Do these prerequisite mandates even exist here? In this fight for our country is it wise to throw the baby out with the bath water? But this baby wants to know if my patriotism and efforts to create dialog, discussion, and traffic as a conservative which equate to revenue are appreciated or not... No matter what my stance on faith might be.

Is the 1st respected here or not? If not what are the restrictive parameters limited to as a private domain? If only White Puritan Christians are allowed here then it needs to shared what sect exactly of hundreds??? A curious mind would like to know...


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To: Openurmind

I only defended myself.
***You posted an OFFENSIVE vanity, and you are a heretic to boot.


261 posted on 08/17/2021 3:41:31 PM PDT by Kevmo ( 600 political prisoners in Washington, DC. You cannot comply your way out of tyranny.)
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To: Openurmind

Your weird screed started with:

“I would like some clarification as to the truth of the rules and situation here on the FR. Several times over the last few years it has been mandated by certain users that a prerequisite for participating here, conversing here, or donating here is mandated that you must first be a White Puritan Christian. No exceptions or you are considered a Troll. You must believe what they believe exactly or you should hit the highway.”

Then, you ended with

“If only White Puritan Christians are allowed here then it needs to shared what sect exactly of hundreds???”

I think most all FReepers here “see you”, preacher.


262 posted on 08/17/2021 3:42:47 PM PDT by polymuser (BLA socialist is a communist without the power to take everything from their citizens...yet.)
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To: Olog-hai

Man, he’s getting a two-day attention fix 😄


263 posted on 08/17/2021 3:44:05 PM PDT by polymuser (BLA socialist is a communist without the power to take everything from their citizens...yet.)
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To: Openurmind
More ad hominem out of you?

All right; I’ll have to take that as an admission that you lied. I can move on now . . .
264 posted on 08/17/2021 3:44:25 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: polymuser

Well, if he wants the mods’ attention, that’s the way to do it . . .


265 posted on 08/17/2021 3:45:07 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: Openurmind

Read it... I am and have been in SELF DEFENSE MODE the whole time.
***Baloney. You jumped on a freeper over historicity and I started riding your heretical butt ever since.

In fact I was attacked first and my only “sin” was DEFENDING MYSELF.
***You aint doin’ a very good job of it. You use all kinds of logical fallacies, you push heretical line of reasoning, you posted an offensive opus.

Do I have a right to defend myself from attack on my faith and ideology???
***Yes. And we have the right to correct heretics.

If not... Which faith and sect is the only acceptable faith sect and free from attack?
***There you go again with that sect stuff, and the bullshiite of acting like one is acceptable which it says NOWHERE. But JimRob reserves the right to hound heretical evangelicals and I + other FReepers have the right to point out your fallacies and heresies.

Hence my question... Whole lot of folks willing to break the rules and ATTACK OTHERS,
***Attack? Pointing out logical fallacies is an attack? What sort of 2nd grade midrasa do you come from? Also, where is it in the rules? It aint. You post heresies then we are free to highlight and correct them.

But even when they try to defend themselves they are still stoned for trying to do that.
***Once again you scurry on over to the evocative hyperbolic religious language to vilify your opponent in a straw argument. You have not been stoned, you have been corrected — which is what the bible tells us to do with false teachers.

Damned if you do, and damned if you don’t.
***Uhh, no. If you had simply kept your mouth shut and not open this offensive thread, our interaction would have drifted into obscurity. But instead you’re trying to defend a very poorly written, very halfbaked opus. This is on YOU.

Because of the screwed up mentality of those who judge
***People who correct false teachers have a screwed up mentality? They are obeying what Christ said to do and He even modeled the behavior. Or do you accuse Christ of being unChristlike when He was confronting the false teachers of His day?

there is no way to believe what you yourself might like to believe...
***Of COURSE there is. You believe in a heresy. So keep it to yourself. And when you issue a throwdown on -historicity, be prepared to defend it — which you weren’t.

Really??? Self defense is “Combative???
***Being combative is combative. Not answering questions is combative. Using logical fallacies is combative. Posting heretical, useless vanities is combative.

This is the exact hypocritical lying ass crap I exposed here.
***You didn’t expose anything. I exposed you as heretic and will continue to do so.

It is the 180 degree spin of irrational radical extremist self righteous nuts...
***You are the one who is irrational, radical, extremist, self-righteous, fallacious, and on top of it, heretical.

No... I did not throw the first blow.
***Yes you did. I posted it upthread.

I have only been defending myself from aggressive “combativeness” since the whole ignorant stupid thing started.
***I have been holding your feet to the hermeneutical fire all along, in the manner the Lord used to do, and I have managed to highlight that you are simply a heretic.


266 posted on 08/17/2021 3:57:00 PM PDT by Kevmo ( 600 political prisoners in Washington, DC. You cannot comply your way out of tyranny.)
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To: Olog-hai

It appears that no, he simply cannot do it.


267 posted on 08/17/2021 4:03:16 PM PDT by Kevmo ( 600 political prisoners in Washington, DC. You cannot comply your way out of tyranny.)
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To: Kevmo

And you are now a FLAT OUT bigot liar. And I can go pull your own posts from the chain to prove it...

I made a comment in general, Lurker jumped on me, We exchanged, Him and I were both done and backed out, THEN YOU CAME AND HIT ME WHIT YOUR EXTREMIST NUT SHIT. Then you stalked me for two damned days with your nut shit telling me I am not allowed here. So I posted the question to the board to find out if you are full of crap or not.

Truth to the fact period dumbsass.

I knew sooner or later you would lie about the facts of the chain of posts.

You are a bigot lying sinner and fake Christian... You attacked me and I defended myself. This is in the “Jim Robinson” Rules too... which by the way you violated FIRST!!!

“Please enjoy our forum, but also please remember to use common courtesy when posting “and refrain from posting personal attacks, profanity, vulgarity, threats, racial or religious bigotry,” or any other materials offensive or otherwise inappropriate for a conservative family audience.”

What part of that did you miss when you posted the rules to me a dozen times dipweed? For everyone but you? You are self righteous and think you have the right to ignore these rules because you are “special” ???

You are special alright... Some kind of blockhead special...


268 posted on 08/17/2021 4:04:42 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: firebrand

Oh no, Baptist consider themselves heirs to people like the waldenses or albigenses. As far as European sects that are Christian but non-calvinist, I’m not quite sure but the Puritans actually outlawed Rodger Williams and banished him to the area that we now know as Rhode Island because the Puritans of Plymouth Colony didn’t want Baptist there


269 posted on 08/17/2021 4:07:37 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for )
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To: Openurmind

I did not throw the first blow …
Post 1:

Several times over the last few years it has been mandated by certain users that a prerequisite for participating here, conversing here, or donating here is mandated that you must first be a White Puritan Christian. No exceptions or you are considered a Troll. You must believe what they believe exactly or you should hit the highway. …
That is called throwing the first blow.

Enjoy the rest of your stay on FR . . .
270 posted on 08/17/2021 4:11:30 PM PDT by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: RaceBannon

Whoever did that religion “tree” for that magazine didn’t know the history as well as you do. Or maybe they were going by similarity of ideas, not by history. Actually, that’s what I would be more interested in discussing, whether the ideas are the similar.


271 posted on 08/17/2021 4:16:17 PM PDT by firebrand ( )
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To: Openurmind

You must not read your Bible very often, you’ll see that Moses was told to write down the words that God spoke to him. If you want to claim that there’s any portion of the Bible that may have been passed down orally, then the only book that that would be is the Book of Genesis and even then it probably wouldn’t be an all chapters of Genesis, we just don’t know, but the book of Exodus was plainly spoken by God to Moses and Moses was told to write it down. I don’t know what religion you claim to be from but that’s a very basic Bible truth.


272 posted on 08/17/2021 4:22:50 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for )
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To: Openurmind

Not sure I have ever had to do this before... Just had to make a note list of “Delusional radical extremist bigoted lying Christian nuts...”

Honestly, first time ever... Do any of you ever actually read what you are spouting here? You do not see the illogical and irrational words of what you say?

It is a false witness testimony and lie. You are twisting everything from reality into your own little fanatical fantasy world of self righteous bigotry.

Even if we have to LIE!, Stone him!, Excommunicate him!, Burn him at the stake! GOD WILLS IT!!!

Honestly... I am now very sure I am NOT dealing with any kind of rational mental stability here... The logic behind this whole conversation is scaring the hell out of me.


273 posted on 08/17/2021 4:25:51 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: Openurmind

And you are now a FLAT OUT bigot liar. And I can go pull your own posts from the chain to prove it...
***Then do it, heretic.

I made a comment in general, Lurker jumped on me, We exchanged, Him and I were both done
***I wasn’t done. You want the exchange to be only between 2 freepers then us freepmail.

and backed out, THEN YOU CAME AND HIT ME WHIT YOUR EXTREMIST NUT SHIT.
***There is NOTHING extremist about adhering to the canon, in fact it is fringe, it is extremist, it is heretical to throw out the canon.

Then you stalked me
***We were on the other thread, you said you were gonna post this thread, I said I was gonna feel free to correct your logical fallacies and that’s what I have been doing. 2 threads do not a stalker make. You are simply having trouble defending your indefensible heretical position. So it just plain suqs to be you, that’s all.

for two damned days with your nut shit
***The standard canon is not nut shit, correcting logical fallacies is not nut shit but rejecting the canon like you do IS nut shit.

telling me I am not allowed here.
***Feel free to post where I said that. You won’t because you can’t. suqs 2BU

So I posted the question to the board to find out if you are full of crap or not.
***It turns out that others notice your logical fallacies and obvious bullshiite, so you are the one who is full of crap. And keep in mind right here, you admit that you’re trying to find out if I, if KEVMO, was in the wrong and Kevmo joined the conversation. You are whackadoodle.

Truth to the fact period dumbsass.
***Even your insults fall flat, heretic.

I knew sooner or later you would lie about the facts of the chain of posts.
***They are up there for everyone to see. Feel free to post even ONE that I lied in. You won’t because you can’t.

You are a bigot lying sinner and fake Christian...
***Well now, your true colors are showing, heretic.

You attacked me and I defended myself.
***I defended the faith the way Jesus modeled. You are a heretic so there is far less leeway that I would ordinarily be observing.

This is in the “Jim Robinson” Rules too...
***Where??

which by the way you violated FIRST!!!
***Feel free to show where. I even posted our exchange to make it easier for you. Go on.

“Please enjoy our forum, but also please remember to use common courtesy
***I was using the common courtesy afforded to heretics. I followed the example of Jesus confronting false teachers of His day. Or do you accuse Christ of being unChristlike [or being fake christian] when He was so strongly criticizing them?

when posting “and refrain from posting personal attacks,
***Pointing out logical fallacies is not a personal attack.

profanity, vulgarity,
***Well, maybe ya got me there. I am the one doing this, i aint perfect. Jesus WAS perfect and He downshifted into calling His opponents “sons of Satan” which is as close to a personal vulgar attack as He allowed Himself. Pretty harsh. But He is perfect and I am not.

threats, racial or religious bigotry,”
***Confronting heresy is not religious bigotry. Or do you accuse Jesus of bigotry?

or any other materials offensive or otherwise inappropriate for a conservative family audience.”
***Jesus sometimes had an offensive message. But it was not inappropriate, nor is it inappropriate for me to confront your heresy.

What part of that did you miss when you posted the rules to me a dozen times dipweed?
***Feel free to show me, heretic.

For everyone but you?
***Do yourself a self-exercise and ask how Jesus would have confronted a false teacher or heretic. You have been treated no differently.

You are self righteous
***NO. Wrong. BZZZT. My righteousness comes from the blood of Christ. You just don’t like what I say and are crappy at defending yourself.

and think you have the right to ignore these rules because you are “special” ???
***Of course I don’t have the right to ignore rules. Now YOU’RE the one trying to censor content based on rules, how ironic. I have the right to confront your bullshiite heresies and false teachings.

You are special alright... Some kind of blockhead special...
***I see you’re all riled up, in ad hominem mode [yet another logical fallacy] and you’re violating the very rules you post by using personal attacks. You are a mess, spiritually, in quality of writing, in your thinking, in your very soul. You should just plain drop your heresy and submit to the proper and clean-logic of the gospels of Christ. Something is seriously off about you.


274 posted on 08/17/2021 4:26:24 PM PDT by Kevmo ( 600 political prisoners in Washington, DC. You cannot comply your way out of tyranny.)
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To: firebrand

Independent fundamental Baptist have more of an evolutionary tree based on Doctrine then by the name outside the door. I still would prefer that if I was to Witnesses someone and present them the gospel that I took them to an independent fundamental Baptist Church before anything, and once you’re inside it would then depend on how they worship with others in the type of music that they sing. Some of the churches down south are shouting Baptist, meaning that they shout an awful lot even when they’re not trying to make a singular point, but I prefer a church that is expository and it’s Bible teaching they may shout sometimes but they make you go through the Bible and look at multiple versus during the entire sermon instead of some churches that just read 20 verses and then the pastor shouts for 20 minutes.


275 posted on 08/17/2021 4:29:34 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for )
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To: Openurmind

You must be new to the internet because people are quoting you and taking your statements on face value and then you’re complaining that you’re being held accountable to what you actually wrote down


276 posted on 08/17/2021 4:30:56 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for )
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To: Openurmind; polymuser; Kevmo; RaceBannon

Read above...


277 posted on 08/17/2021 4:30:58 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: RaceBannon

Thanks. Sounds right.


278 posted on 08/17/2021 4:33:11 PM PDT by firebrand ( )
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To: Openurmind

Oh I read it and that’s why I just rebuke too. People are quoting you verbatim and responding to the actual words that you wrote and you’re getting all hissy fit because somebody’s holding you accountable for what you actually printed. The problem is not with your detractors, the problem is with your inability to just read words on a screen and not be offended immediately. You’re the one who’s making these claims and people are responding to your claims and then you’re running away with your fingers in your ears saying wow wow wow wow wow I can’t hear you


279 posted on 08/17/2021 4:33:52 PM PDT by RaceBannon (Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for )
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To: Olog-hai

And you have your user blocked so that I cannot add it in a post. Bigotry, pure bigotry...

And THAT was not the fist blow... Not even close.

Don’t twist this from the truth... You are absolutely being deceptive and know it.


280 posted on 08/17/2021 4:35:24 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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