Posted on 05/30/2022 4:49:30 AM PDT by MtnClimber
“Personally, police forever severed that shred of trust/respect during the Antifa/BLM summer of love riots where they “Stood Down” and let animals run free.”
And not one of the uniformed people in charge resigned in protest. Not a single one. Think about that.
“Your personal protection is your responsibility.”
Which is why I despise the term “first responder”. They’re not. At best they’re the second or even third responder. I’ve gotten into it with the Chief of Police in my town in more than one public forum.
Hearing police officers refer to the citizens they, supposedly, are sworn to protect as “civilians” is another one. Cops are civilians granted powers of arrest by the State and municipalities they work for. They’re not military.
In my State the only legal difference between a cop and a citizen is that the cop can arrest for misdemeanors.
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Living in NYC at the time, I learned that fact as a result of the Crown Heights riots of 1991.
It has always amazed me how few people knew or understood that fact in the decades after....some sadly, continue in that ignorance.
The thing with that law (and many like it) is that the remedy for failure to adhere is usually absent. The words are there to make everybody feel good, nothing more.
The “no duty” theme is a reference to an ability to obtain money damages, sue the police for failure to perform a duty to protect, and that case will be thrown out of court. They can be sued for malfeasance but the hurdle there is extremely high. Deprivation of civil rights, excessive force, false arrest, that sort of malfeasance can result in civil and criminal penalties. But doing nothing results in, at worst, being fired from the job.
I think that they should have gone in. I would wager that would-be copycats saw this and gained inspiration from it. And I think what happened should be used to ridicule those who say citizens don’t need guns because we have the police.
“To Protect and Serve” is one of the most fraudulent marketing slogans ever.
It was originated by the Los Angeles Police Department and popularized by the Hollywood fantasy machine in numerous movies and TV series.
One of the comments below mentioned that the police are hierarchical and therefore the lower ranked would be subject to all sorts of discipline if they disobeyed an order.
It is my understanding that in the Army, troops are taught the Geneva Conventions and are supposed to disobey orders which contravene the Conventions.
Surely there is some space for defying orders as bad as these for the police? I understand the need for order but this seems to go too far.
Sometimes mutiny is necessary....
This, right there, is what is wrong with modern society. There is no sense of honor anymore. Not at any level. Pretty much around the world. In the Muslim world, they have false honor that encourages "honor" killing. Otherwise, true honor is something that is antiquated.
As decided by SCOTUS in 2005.
Very true. People see the cop cars with stickers that say, “To Protect and Serve,” it ain’t a legal obligation or duty.
[[ “Nobody needs an AR-15,”]]
If that is the case, then noone needs a vehicle that will do over say 15 miles an hour. Faster speeds lead to deaths. We need sensible speed laws now! (We have 20,000 gun laws and an astonishing 300,000 gun statutes on the books already, but the left claim “we need sensible gun laws now!”, so perhaps we should turn it around on them and demand “sensible speed laws now!” Even thougn we already have speed laws- keep,pushing and pushing, like they do, till it becomes a hassel to,even drive or own a vehicle any longer)
The left love making everyone miserable and less safe, lur side doesn’t fight that way.
The motto should come of of their cars and other items, because it is false advertising.
It’s always fun to hypothesize a 180, after all, it’s assumed we can “make a law.”
Mandatory carry with exception for conscientious objectors.
I think the average person is NOW, for sure thinking...’uh, yeah, I NEED A GUN.”
The problem is if the cops,shot and killed ,id’s by accident, while trying to get the bad guy, they would very likely be up on manslaughter charges or worse, like Chauvin was- especially if the kids shot were minority kids. Chauvin was innocent but still got charged and convicted with 3 counts of manslaughter, second degree and first degree. With the hatred of the police these days, that likely factored in some, but I’m guessing that there was a stand down order from the top, maybe even from white house, though that is just a guess at this point. Political correctness, and the fear of breaking with political correctness has ruined this country.
The answers by the chief though are very disturbing- it’s almost like he has been given the order to cause as much hatred for police as possible. Thirr actions were reprehensible, but their answers even more disgusting. It jusy seems orchestrated. I have a hard time believing anyone would be that callous. They haven’t even tried to walk back,the comments yet as far as I know. Something really stinks in Denmark these days.
Cernovich retweeted another person’s tweet about how a lot of police organizations lost their best officers to refusing to take the vax and that left liberal ones willing to take and force others to take the vax and they wondered out loud how willing would these liberal officers be to rush into danger. It was an interesting point that the person made.
That doesn’t explain Columbine or Broward County.
That does not explain the cuffing and tasing of parents who were willing to go in.
“I get that cops don’t want to be blamed or charged with a crime, but I don’t think the George Floyd syndrome applies to a mass shooter killing little kids.”
Absolutely. It’s just a shameless excuse.
When seconds count; the police are only minutes away. We must be able to defend ourselves. It’s not realistic to believe the police can protect everyone all at the same time. It’s simply not possible. We must take that responsibility on ourselves.
The only reason to disarm a populace is so a malevolent government, criminals, crazies, and terrorists have less bullets coming at them when they commit mayhem. They may be evil but most of them do want to live.
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