“Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters.”
― Benjamin Franklin
Posted on 12/07/2022 7:54:47 PM PST by Jonty30
Historically, once a country is on a path to socialism, it is very nearly impossible to turn it around. It also takes upwards of 100 years to work socialism out of society.
This is where, I believe, America is now heading. The liberals have managed to create a voting system that almost ensures an electoral win every single time and I don't think America can recover.
So I have a suggestion. In the event that America really is done, as we all knew her, I suggest that each of you start gathering documentation of America's founding and the Founding Fathers and everything about America, including the educational materials like math and science and English and civics and everything.
I do not doubt that, once the communists have taken control of Congress, they will make what is in the archives disappear. They may even openly burn the Archives, because they have so much contempt and hatred for America.
In the event that the day should come and we can start working socialism out of America, this information will be like gold. I'd even suggest signing books out of your public libraries and "losing" them and giving the libraries the replacement costs for the books, just so you have a record of something.
I do believe that America falling into socialism is a necessary step just before the coming of the Messiah, but if the Messiah is not coming for hundreds of years, we will say, then we need something to build upon once this madness has passed from the American people.
“Only a virtuous people are capable of freedom. As nations become corrupt and vicious, they have more need of masters.”
― Benjamin Franklin
What will that achieve? We’ll have hostile states on our redrawn borders, with leaders that covet our territory.
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Normalcy bias gets billions killed.
FR has massive issues with Normalcy Bias.
Same with the Church - the True Church that is. :)
That's Obi Wan Kenobi-level "So what I said to you was true - from a certain point of view" BS.
If He had been referring to His first Resurrection, just days later, talking about "some of you standing here today will not yet have tasted of Death" is deceitful and misleading. One doesn't or rather shouldn't refer to much-hoped-for events in the NEAR future in that way!
If, however, he was instead referring to the Second Coming, then it is plainly UNTRUTHFUL to give false hope by claiming that some of those standing there THAT DAY would not "taste of Death" - since we are still waiting today for the Second Coming!
consider also if He is speaking of physical or spiritual death
If you give someone THAT much slack, then they can say ANYTHING without you being able to falsify it!
The people listening to Him back then - if you had taken a poll - would have UNANIMOUSLY agreed: "He, of course, means PHYSICAL death! Hurrah!"
Regards,
Didn’t Solzhenitsyn say something along the same lines?
No, not exactly:
“And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?... The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin's thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If...if...We didn't love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation.... We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.”
Regards,
That’s exactly the quote I was thinking of. Solzhenitsyn got it.
If they are going to censor the book anyway, it’s probably better off in somebody’s hands who won’t censor it.
Are you a troll or are you really that dense?
Then the Lord appeared to Solomon at night and said to him, “I have heard your prayer and have chosen this place for Myself as a house of sacrifice. If I shut up the heavens so that there is no rain [drought] , or if I command the locust to devour the land [famine, food shortages, supply chain failures], or if I send pestilence [pandemics, viruses] among My people, and My people who are called by My name humble themselves and pray and seek My face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven, will forgive their sin and will heal their land. 2 Chronicles 7:12-14These things are happening to America today. It's our turn to respond correctly.
No. You’re welcome to explain why allowing the government to keep information that it intends to destroy to de-industrialize the American people represents the wisdom of the Ancients, since that seems to be what you believe.
In my opinion, the Democrats won and they are going to destroy everything in all but name. Everything that you knew is going to be gone sooner than later, but there will also come a time when America can rebuild from that once the madness is over, unless the Messiah comes before that time.
In order to rebuild as close to what we had, we need the information. The information will be more valuable than gold. I don’t care about whether a library gets to keep a particular book, especially when the Democrats in charge of that library will be intending to destroy the book or sell it off.
It is better off in our hands, for when we rebuild, then simply gone. The more people build their libraries, the more likely we will be able to rebuild once the madness is over.
Call that dumb if you want, you’re the only one saying that.
Amen.
We will have to repent and move the liberals along.
Stealing books from the library PREVENTS many other people from reading those books. Exactly what the left would want.
If you go out and purchase that same book you INCREASE the circulation of said book.
And, you wouldn’t be stealing.
Once the government gets rid of it, nobody will be reading it now or in the future.
I agree you should buy the book if you can. However, my comment about taking the book from the library and losing it is the type of steps we need to take in order to preserve the Republic for another day.
If we fought WWII with honour and holiness, we’d all be speaking German, comrade.
do you remember the rather far fetched one with the Yangs and Cons?
the Yangs take back the last of their ‘Holy’ places from the cons, and the Chief walks in with an American Flag and a box containing the ‘Holy’ documents. He mangles the words as he pulls out a scroll: something like E Pleb Nista. Kirk recognizes it as We the People.
looked it up on imdb. says it was written by Roddenberry and called the Omega Glory:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0708474/
If it ever comes to that, I'll settle for joining the new USA, then telling the rest of the state "See ya."
Matthew 13
Regards,
Btw, please reload American History during your next update.
Daniel’s 4th empire on the rise.
Those things were happening in medieval France, in the ancient Hittite Empire, in First Dynasty Egypt, in the Indus Valley civilization, in...
Pointing to droughts or famines as "signs and portends" is about as reliable as pointing to a sack of rice in China falling over.
FAIL!
Regards,
I can't be sure, of course, but I suspect that Jonty30 is a well-meaning "holy fool."
Judging from his/her posts, he/she is inclined to ask superficially foolish-sounding questions about matters of which he/she has only a passing familiarity. To the many people here at Free Republic who have a much more in-depth understanding of the given subject matter, these questions will undoubtedly sound naïve and perhaps even malicious.
I've often caught myself falling into the trap of assuming that a random poster must be trolling us, since a few minutes of searching the Internet would have sufficed to resolve the given question, or at least enabled them to better formulate the question, before approaching us.
The situation would be comparable to my posting a question about NASCAR (about which I know nothing). "Why aren't NASCAR vehicles all electric - or at least equipped with hybrid engines?" I might ask, or "How would the 1966 Batman t.v. series Batmobile fare in a modern-day NASCAR race? Would its atomic batteries give it an advantage?"
However, when it comes to NASCAR, I'm smart enough to know how ignorant I am and hence how dumb such questions would probably seem to the many NASCAR fans here on Free Republic who eat, breathe, and live NASCAR.
(My pet-peeves are the questions containing implicit untruths: "Since the Nazis bombed Pearl Harbor in December of 1938, why didn't they continue on to San Francisco and bomb it, too?)
I suppose that it thus might have something to do with the Dunning-Kruger Effect.
SIDE REMARK: I find it fascinating that "stupid" and "badly formulated" questions often elicit the longest threads here at Free Republic. I suspect it's because nothing excites a FReeper more than the opportunity to lecture a "dumb-dumb."
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