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They Rarely Ask for Pain Pills Now
MEDPAGE TODAY ^ | March 5, 2024 | Edwin Leap, MD

Posted on 03/05/2024 1:39:49 PM PST by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 03/05/2024 1:39:49 PM PST by nickcarraway
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They put on the brakes way too hard for prescription opioid pain killers. They helped chase people to fentanyl. My 78 year old mother should be able to get all the pain meds she wants, as long as she agrees to give up driving.

There is no common sense anymore.


2 posted on 03/05/2024 1:47:11 PM PST by Codeflier (Don't worry....be happy )
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on the flip side....Drs are so freaked out about opioids that dealing with pain is a problem for people who have genetic problems with drugs.

I have lost track of the times Drs treated me like I was a drug addict when I would say NSAIDS dont work on me and neither does Oxy or percocet.

I finally got the official genetic test put in my records and the STILL treat me like a drug fiend.

I have Eagles Syndrome. Screw the whole medical profession that doesnt even know what it is and once they do they dont want to give you medicine to deal with the crazy pain.

For example, tramadol is one of the drugs used for this. I can’t use tramadol. I also cant use tricyclic antidepressant that are used for pain.

There are some people in the world that actually do need help with pain.


3 posted on 03/05/2024 1:47:21 PM PST by RummyChick
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We were told, over and over, that we should treat pain aggressively and should not be afraid to give narcotics to patients in pain.

Thank you Purdue Pharma and the Sackler family.


4 posted on 03/05/2024 1:48:11 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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Tramadol is the most worthless painkiller on the market. I often wonder why it is even a controlled substance. I call it the pain killer that is based on the placebo effect.


5 posted on 03/05/2024 1:49:07 PM PST by Codeflier (Don't worry....be happy )
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and btw, a pharmacologist said Fentanyl should work for me. Put aside the addiction issue... I laughed out loud. No Doctor is going to prescribe that for me. Again, they are freaked out about addiction.


6 posted on 03/05/2024 1:49:16 PM PST by RummyChick
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Interesting to read a view from the other side of the “fence.” To add some levity to such a serious topic “Beer is good food!” My favorite being Abita Amber Lager...delicious!


7 posted on 03/05/2024 1:51:54 PM PST by mythenjoseph (Islam has NO place in a Christian society.)
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That is because the government interference has made it too difficult for patients who are truly in pain to get the medications they need. Too many patients were cut off cold turkey from their physicians from pain meds that helped them to have a productive life, and thus forced to get their pain prescriptions on the black market. That is one reason we are seeing more fentanyl overdoses in elderly people. They think they are getting opiods but instead are getting fentanyl.

“Drug overdose fatalities among US older adults have quadrupled over 20 years, UCLA research finds”

https://www.uclahealth.org/news/drug-overdose-fatalities-among-us-older-adults-have


8 posted on 03/05/2024 1:53:06 PM PST by CFW (I will not comply!)
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one of the drugs listed for Eagle Syndrome is “gas station heroin”. I forget the name of the drug but they arent going to prescribe that either.

When you read the stories about what people go through with Eagle Syndrome I feel lucky that mine is not that bad yet.

Another drug listed is gabapentin. It doesnt work on me for whatever reason but it is just as well because that is another drug that people get hooked on for the euphoria it gives you.

None of these drugs give me euphoria. When I was taking Oxy after a surgery I couldnt figure out what the big deal was.


9 posted on 03/05/2024 1:53:16 PM PST by RummyChick
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I love these posts. its fun to see all the reasons people need they oxy.


10 posted on 03/05/2024 1:54:12 PM PST by devane617 (Discipline Is Reliable, Motivation Is Fleeting..)
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Screw pharma. Be a man. Smoke pot and drink whiskey like most of us for the pain.


11 posted on 03/05/2024 1:55:12 PM PST by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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WHAT is the “opens in new tab or window” several times in the article? Apparently to do with ads. How did it get in there? It’s not in the article at the link. Strange.

Otherwise, good article. Has to be irritating to the medical profession.


12 posted on 03/05/2024 1:55:39 PM PST by Thank You Rush
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Opioids are fine for short term use. I presently have a broken knee cap (dog walking leash tangle) and received oxycodone 5mg for 30 tabs a couple of times.
They helped immensely that first couple of weeks, however I was very careful with them and only for most severe pain. Now I just use NSAIDs or acetaminophen


13 posted on 03/05/2024 1:55:42 PM PST by mel (There are only 2 races decent and undecent people )
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“Gas station heroin” is tianeptine, an antidepressant that was approved for medical use in the far east.

If you take about 20 times the dose used for depression it’s supposed to make you feel something. Obviously this is not a big drug of choice, otherwise nobody would use fentanyl.

Back in the 1980’s kids used to smoke banana peels to get high which probably did as much as tianeptine does.


14 posted on 03/05/2024 2:00:07 PM PST by packagingguy
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I had a friend who doctor shopped for opioids using his old medical records and X-rays. Would go all over town going to different doctors. A couple years later a guy I hired out of Indiana who became addicted thanks to this guy ended up homeless and died on his friend’s sofa one night.


15 posted on 03/05/2024 2:01:19 PM PST by subterfuge (I'm a pure-blood!)
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My 62 year old BIL’s stomach & esophagus cancer pain was so bad, no pin killers worked except fentanyl.


16 posted on 03/05/2024 2:01:45 PM PST by Bobbyvotes (I will be voting for Trump/whoever in November. If he lgovernir oses, country is finished.)
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Yes that is the drug and some states are outlawing it. Not sure if you can even get a prescription in those states.


17 posted on 03/05/2024 2:04:09 PM PST by RummyChick
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It wasn’t approved for sale in this country.

As I said outlawing tianeptine is kind of pointless. If it was really fun to use it would be more popular.


18 posted on 03/05/2024 2:06:06 PM PST by packagingguy
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This kind of my dilemma. I don’t want to end up addicted like Matthew Perry but I have to have something to deal with pain if they are going to saw off my bones..let alone the daily crap I have to deal with as far pain.

What do you do when NSAIDS dont genetically work on you right...and as you go up the line the only thing that works is Fentanyl or Morphine. I am putting off two major surgeries because I know dealing with the pain is going to be a nightmare.


19 posted on 03/05/2024 2:08:20 PM PST by RummyChick
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You are right. I just looked. So it was useless for me to even put on my list of drugs to look at for Eagle Syndrome. I guess Eagle Syndrome people in Europe can use it.

I actually would like to try it just to see if it would work for pain.


20 posted on 03/05/2024 2:10:52 PM PST by RummyChick
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