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Why can’t Israel borrow for their own defense? Why must our grandchildren borrow and pay for it?
Vanity ^ | 4/21/24 | hardspunned

Posted on 04/21/2024 6:36:38 AM PDT by hardspunned

Israel has a national debt of $310 Billion owed by its 9.6 million citizens. Individually, each Israeli citizen’s share is $32,291. The U.S. has a national debt of $34 Trillion owed by 334 million citizens. Individually, each U.S. citizen’s share is $101,796. All politics aside, why am I, you, each of our children and grandchildren borrowing money to give to Israel when each of us already carries a debt burden three times that of each Israeli citizen?

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To: AAABEST
What triggers FR's Israel-firsters is asking simple questions - like why our kids get to inherit all the enemies Israel made for them.

That's just daft!   When the Persians took over our Embassy they called us the Great Satan!

We have been the enemy of Islam from the beginning.   We didn't inherit all the enemies Israel made...

81 posted on 04/21/2024 9:52:01 AM PDT by higgmeister (In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! )
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To: AAABEST

If only Charles Martel, Niklas Graf Salm, and Jan Sobieski hadn’t supported Israel, Muslims wouldn’t be forced to defend themselves against us.


82 posted on 04/21/2024 10:10:00 AM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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To: af_vet_1981

You have lost it. You do not speak for God either.

You pass judgement on people as though you have a special inroad. I never said anything of the kind to how you made your stupid interpretation.

Everything in your post is so overboard and ridiculous it is really worth no more time.

If you can’t see what is wrong with you and what you are doing, seek help. You twist words and the meaning of what people say to fit your silly judgement of a person in a nauseating self virtuous way.


83 posted on 04/21/2024 10:14:46 AM PDT by dforest
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To: hardspunned

Could be asked for all of Europe over the past 80 years as well. The powers that be deemed that we were to supply dollars and soldiers for the worldwide ever-growing wealth of the powers that be.


84 posted on 04/21/2024 10:18:07 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: dforest
You wrote: "Not being in love with governments, even Israel’s, which is as far from perfect as our current one, does not make a person evil. It makes them wise."

That is also the delusion of the ISIS and Hamas supporters when they oppose the United States and Israeli governments. No one made you write that; you did that yourself.

You do not speak for God either.

Therefore thou shalt speak all these words unto them; but they will not hearken to thee: thou shalt also call unto them; but they will not answer thee.
85 posted on 04/21/2024 10:53:39 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 ( The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: kosciusko51

“Yes, why limit this to Israel and not all foreign aid?”

Absolutely. No foreign welfare to any country. Not a penny. Seal the border, deport every illegal, and drastically cut the budget.


86 posted on 04/21/2024 11:05:07 AM PDT by SharpRightTurn (“Giving money & power to government is like giving whiskey & car keys to teenage boys” P.J. O’Rourke)
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To: 1st I.D Vet

Jews and Nazis collaborating was not something I expected on my FR bingo card for today…

What kind of drugs are you on?


87 posted on 04/21/2024 11:28:15 AM PDT by GreenLanternCorps (Hi! I'm the Dread Pirate Roberts! (TM) Ask about franchise opportunities in your area.)
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To: hardspunned

I have zero problems helping out Israel. Read your Bible.


88 posted on 04/21/2024 11:59:42 AM PDT by roving (Deplorable Listless Vessel Trumpist With Trumpitis and a Rainbow Bully)
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To: roving

I don’t appreciate your drivel. I know my Bible. You can try to sell your blasphemy to someone else who might be as misguided as you are.


89 posted on 04/21/2024 12:14:48 PM PDT by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned

I hear ya


90 posted on 04/21/2024 12:42:54 PM PDT by I got the rope
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To: Openurmind

You made the assertion. You prove me wrong.

L


91 posted on 04/21/2024 1:06:23 PM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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To: hardspunned

Ukrania gets a whole lot more money to blow


92 posted on 04/21/2024 1:25:33 PM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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To: daniel1212

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93 posted on 04/21/2024 2:34:20 PM PDT by JayGalt (DEI = Didn’t Earn It)
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To: hardspunned

The US gave Iran over 100 Billion and ended sanctions on them. Those missiles fired at Israel were paid for by Americans thanks to the second and third Obama-Biden administrations


94 posted on 04/22/2024 2:05:26 AM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers." )
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To: Openurmind

For the record and perhaps to soothe your mind........

My congress critter voted against the bill even though her district will benefit economically.

There is another and in my mind correct way to look at the money to Ukraine and Israel. Rather than like you concentrate on the Profit and Loss statement as an expense, look rather at the Balance Sheet. The money is an investment in the future where the Cancers of Russia and Iran are destroyed.

For grand children, a world free from the combined continued aggression and destruction of Russia and Iran is a great asset that will continue to pay dividends in perpetuity


95 posted on 04/22/2024 4:44:25 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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To: Lurker

“You made the assertion. You prove me wrong.”

Actually the burden of proof is on you for rudely making a claim of falsehood without proof in the first place. Since you feel you are of superior intellect then educate us, prove your claim rather than belittling folks with false narratives.

“Here’s how it works, Scooter.

Israel borrows the money from US banks. They use that money to buy American weapons from American companies.

Israel then pays those loans off with interest. I know I’ve explained this to you in the past. So you’re either being deliberately obtuse (look it up), you’re deliberately spreading falsehoods, or you’re just not very smart.

My money is on the latter.”

You won’t do this though because I think you already know it is a false narrative and establishment propaganda. Or you are afraid you might find you are actually mistaken about how it really works and it will burst your own bubble and narrative.

But for you and others who are so quick to spend away my Grandkids future with lies, I will indeed put together a comprehensive write up with all the links proving this narrative is false. Because I am really getting tired of the antiquated obsolete narrative of how this really works. Maybe 80 years ago, but not anymore.

I am out the door on a trip and will try to give you the whole skinny when I get back. Because I want to document it so I can drop it into replies with similar false comments like your own. But in the mean time, points to ponder until I do.

We pass an appropriation bill...

The IMF, (a global New World Order financial institution governed by other foreign New World Order financial institutions) extends “US” credit with interest due to cover this funding bill. NOT U.S. banks, and we do not get any interest back to ourselves from this loan. The loan is not to the receiving country, it is to the future taxpayers of our country and we have to pay the loan back with interest to a foreign entity whether they pay us back or not. Most times not...

Then the IMF disburses these funds to the awardees directly without any accountability. Because they are a private entity we will never have access to the records where these funds actually do go. This is where the bait and switch happens. We have no idea if the list of awardees in the bill actually received all these funds or not, it is private privileged information. There is no accountability to keep funds from being siphoned off to thieves.

Then the receiving country does buy weapons from U.S. weapons manufacturers. Except they are not really U.S. owned. 95% of the MIC is owned through controlling interest and governed by global corporations like BlackRock, Vanguard, and Statestreet. (The same entities who control and govern the IMF). So any interest and arms profits made goes to foreign entities, they do not come back to the U.S. economy.

The advantages for us are minimal. Just a few jobs that might help the economy in a minimal amount. But by the time the taxpayers are on the hook for this loan from the global IMF the interest alone eats up any benefits to the economy that might come from those few jobs. So no, we do not loan them money from U.S. banks or ever get any interest back. Any interest a country might have to pay back is already eaten up by the interest we already paid to the IMF long before any interest is paid back.

So we get nothing back, the global New World Order financial corporations get it all in the end. Debt on our Grandchildren is run up against them and we get nothing back in return. It is always lose-lose to the negative and saddles our Granddkids with even more debt.


96 posted on 04/22/2024 5:34:12 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: bert

And my congress critter did too. In fact my congress critter is Paul Gosar.

“For grand children, a world free from the combined continued aggression and destruction of Russia and Iran is a great asset that will continue to pay dividends in perpetuity.”

Except that is not how it works. In our misguided efforts to try and “make them safe” we are actually enslaving them and destroying their future liberty and prosperity. In the long term we are actually doing much more harm than good.


97 posted on 04/22/2024 5:57:36 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: AAABEST

“Isreal-firsters don’t like simple questions about our children’s futures needlessly chained to mideast shitholes.”

You’re calling Israel a “shithole”????


98 posted on 04/22/2024 6:26:40 AM PDT by Wuli ( )
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To: Openurmind

Drivel


99 posted on 04/22/2024 8:49:58 AM PDT by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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To: bert

Fact.


100 posted on 04/22/2024 3:51:38 PM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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