Posted on 04/27/2024 11:02:28 AM PDT by DallasBiff
Edited on 04/27/2024 1:03:36 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]
On July 3, 1969, Brian Jones drowned in his pool and died at just 27, but questions still linger about what really happened at his Cotchford Farm home that night.
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"I want a death by misadventure
Wanna die face down in some dude's pool" - Lenny & Ziggy
He took them to a level they never would have achieved w/out him.
>>...but questions still linger about what really happened at his Cotchford Farm home that night.<<
No human can stay under water, indefinitely.
“Acid claimed Lennon about 1965, and also Brian Wilson. Syd Barrett of Pink Floyd, and an infamous episode with Fleetwood Mac’s Peter Green.”
Brian Wilson’s episodes of psychosis apparently began in 1964 predated his LSD use. Their beginning coincided with his introduction to high-grade hashish. Unpopular to say it, but his drug-induced mental-health struggles likely began with THC rather than LSD. The coke in the ‘70s certainly didn’t help, but what really seemed to do the greatest damage were the mountain of prescription psychotropic meds that Gene Landy pumped into him in the ‘80s.
Jones' drug arrests prevented him from acquiring a visa to tour the United States. And the U.S. was where true fame and fortune awaited the Stones.
They had to cut him loose.
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Keith Richards
Hard living, still vertical
50 years ago there were rumors that Keith Richards got his blood changed every year. Even then people couldn’t believe he was still alive. Guy’s immortal.
“There was a deathbed confession by a man who was there that night who said he killed Brian over money. Brian had almost no alcohol in his system, but did have an enlarged heart & spot on his liver. He also was a good swimming, but had asthma. Bill Wyman & Marianne Faithful both said Brian wrote Ruby Tuesday, with Keith helping with the lyrics. The Byrds asked Jones is he wanted songwriting credit for 8 Miles High. The album Let it Bleed was written an almost done when Brian quit the band/aka….got fired on purpose on his own terms….good severance, etc. Keith had all sorts of arrests, but once Keith stole Brian’s fiance, they couldn’t work together as they’d done so well. Ruby Tuesday was about Keith’s girlfriend dumping him. He cried on Brian’s shoulder after that & Brian let Keith live with he & Anita, where and when Keith fell in love with his buddy’s fiance. Mick Jagger & Keith Richards had boundless energy and drive, and they had no problem leaving other people in the dust. Early Stones songs were much all-band collaborative efforts with all members kicking in, including Andrew Loog Oldham, their manager. But there was a conscious decision to make it “Jagger-Richards” to compete against Lennon-McCartney, with the Stones as anti-Beatles, Early interviews showed Brian and Bill Wyman as outspoken, but they were stifled and silences and Mick and Keith then become the only ones allowed to speak. When the group started, Brian had a baby with his live in girlfriend, so he got paid a little more than the other members who were single, as was the custom of the day. Management told Brian being a family man was bad for the image they wanted—-and was why original member boogie with Stu, piano player Ian Stewart was not allowed to stay in the band. It made it easy for Brian to let go of the family life when Mick Jagger showed up at his place when he was not home and slept with Brian’s “wife”, Then Keith slept with Brian’s fiance, and then Jagger slept with Anita, which practically killed keith, especially after Brian Jones and his friend Jimi Hendrix both slept with Linda Keith, aka Ruby Tuesday to get revenge on Keith. I think Brian had a better idea what the real Linda and Anita were all about. Brian had some problems, especially after his best friend was killed in a car accident and although the Beatles stopped touring early, the Stones still are touring at 80 years old. Bill Wyman quit the Stones in the 1990s after 30 years with the band—-in his 60s——and Mick and Keith wrote him out of the Stones history. Wyman plays organ on Jumping Jack Flash and says he came up with the riff on piano and then fleshed it out with Brian Jones and Charlie Watts, before they played it for Keith and Mick, who then finished it and wrote the lyrics. We saw similar band dynamics with the Eagles—where Glen Frey and Don Henley pushed Berne Leadon and Randy Meisner out, then Don Felder, too.Jones plays some great harmonica on Beggars Banquet, some great slide quitar and some great Mellotron on Stray Cat Blues, His was filmed playing “you can’t always get what you want” in concert .
As far as the 27 club is concerned, that is the curse of Robert Johnson, who purportedly sold his soul to the devil for his talent, Bob Dylan paid for Jones; bronze casket for his funeral. Dylan said that Jones was the best guitarist in the world, because he could play exactly like Robert Johnson, who got his talent from the devil. Jones was close friends with Jim Morrison and Jimi Hendrix. Morrison wrote a poem about Brian Jones when he died, then died on the exact same date, one year later, Dn’t think what Jagger and Richards have convinced themselves is the truth is the real truth.”
Exile was the last great Stones album, I would also put Some Girls up there, but everything else since then, has been pretty mediocre.
True dat.
Brian was one of the founders along with Ian Stewart on piano. Brian never wanted the band to leave the blues roots.
Andrew Oldham issued the challenge to Mick and Keith to write and I THINK The Last Time is what they came up with.
I always found it kid of sad that he was so uninvolved in Beggar’s Banquet because it really did mark a return to bare knuckle music.
Those Jimmy Miller produces records are really something.
Ron Wood actually looks really good, much better than Keith, and he certainly could go toe-to-toe with Keith in the substance abuse area.
It was probaby the CIA
Jones was a talented musician and songwriter, and organizer of the Rolling Stones. Apparently he was a very bright rebel in school. I believe he had 6 children from 6 different mothers. Another female impregnated by him had an abortion. Was drugged up so much, he couldn’t play the instruments that he could play when sober. Garry Herman reported that Jones couldn’t make music, and his mouth started bleeding when playing harmonica.
He was a pot, meth, coke and other drug addict. He was manipulative and anger provoking one day, and kind the next.
The stones gave him a “pass” since they felt that they were young and no one knew how the drugs they were taking were so bad for them. These were the heroes of the time. What a pile of musically talented poop.
On balance, he ended up the way one could be expected to based on his relationships, life, and lifestyle. What a sad shame. All that talent just p1ssed away.
Yeah, so he was nuts, and THEN dropped a bunch of Acid? Allrighty then.
It happens. There’s no prerequisite that LSD users have to be mentally healthy before use.
“and Mick Taylor certainly surpassed Brian. And Keith. And almost anyone else”
I was going to post the same. Mick was by far the most skilled guitar player then or now.
Keith Richards has been dead since 1972 (you can’t fall over when there’s that much heroin in your veins) and looks better today than he did 48 years ago.
The Beatles killed him. They retaliated some years later.....
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