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Caliber is not as critical as was once thought. More powerful cartrige/hangun combinations can do more damage; there are always trade-offs. The critical thing is having a handy, available firearm which is easily accesssable., vs. not haveing a firearm easily accessable.
1 posted on 05/06/2024 8:04:47 AM PDT by marktwain
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Bflr


2 posted on 05/06/2024 8:09:13 AM PDT by sauropod ("This is a time when people reveal themselves for who they are." James O'Keefe Ne supra crepidam)
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Shot placement has been and always will be key.

L


3 posted on 05/06/2024 8:10:01 AM PDT by Lurker ( Peaceful coexistence with the Left is not possible. Stop pretending that it is.)
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Makes sense.


4 posted on 05/06/2024 8:14:24 AM PDT by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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To: marktwain

So a loud bang is all we need?, will keep my .380 pocket pistol handy, lol


5 posted on 05/06/2024 8:14:56 AM PDT by baclava
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After reading the government literature on these intense encounters, guns are NOT the answer. Instead, call in social counselors to intervene and see what the perp (this time it’s a bear) really wants. What are his (or her or whatever preferred pronoun the bear chooses) demands or grievances. Perhaps there is some sort of middle ground one could seek for the sake of peace. One shouldn’t be too hasty in these situations. Instead use a calm and gentle approach. Speak in low soothing tones. I’m sure they feel misunderstood. Perhaps after starting a conversation, a hug would be in order to reassure the bear all is well.


6 posted on 05/06/2024 8:15:42 AM PDT by BipolarBob (Dementia ain't just a river in Egypt. )
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Depends on the bear and the time of year.

Black bears are usually skittish of loud noises, brown bears a little less and Grizzlies don’t much care. Don’t know about Polar Bears.............


7 posted on 05/06/2024 8:15:56 AM PDT by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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10 posted on 05/06/2024 8:19:55 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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I guess a .9mm in grizzly country is better than nothing but Mr. GG2 carried a .454 Casul during the brief time he lived in Alaska and he was still nervous. In fact his neighbor at the time carrying the same weapon emptied all 6 rounds into a grizzly at point blank range and it died on top of him. The neighbors had to come out and roll it off of him. True story.


13 posted on 05/06/2024 8:24:50 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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I shared an indoor range once with a gentleman who was trying out his brand new Ruger Super RedHawk in 454 Casull. He let me try it out, loading it with
3 rounds. I’ve shot a Smith & Wesson Model 29 .44 magnum, and I actually enjoyed that. I shot 2 rounds and gave it back. I was flinching so bad I could hardly hold the thing. I’m not a big guy, and shooting that .454 was…..brutal.


15 posted on 05/06/2024 8:25:45 AM PDT by telescope115 (I NEED MY SPACE!!! 🔭)
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Warning shots are seriously underrated because most successful warning shots are not reported.

If they're not reported, how do we know that they're seriously underrated?


31 posted on 05/06/2024 8:39:04 AM PDT by fidelis (👈 Under no obligation to respond to rude, ignorant, abusive, bellicose, and obnoxious posts.)
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My .45 is for scaring a bear. My AR-10 is for killing a bear.


37 posted on 05/06/2024 8:50:37 AM PDT by MeganC ("Russians are subhuman" - posted by Kazan 8 March 2024)
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This has been clear for years. Every time I’ve see a history of encounters, even a 22LR was effective in getting the bear to leave.


41 posted on 05/06/2024 9:02:58 AM PDT by Reno89519 (If Biden is mentally unfit to stand trial, he is mentally unfit to be president. He needs to resign.)
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I don’t believe this study at all. It is considering that bears may run away. To stop a bear with a less than perfect shot takes a high caliber slug. Anything less is either scaring the bear or making him mad. Don’t expect to scare away a mother bear.


43 posted on 05/06/2024 9:05:46 AM PDT by poinq (thics and customs and did not take an oath to the country. And did not follow the country's traditio)
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Desert Eagle in .50 caliber may be a good choice...


44 posted on 05/06/2024 9:13:52 AM PDT by SuperLuminal ( Where is Samuel Adams when we so desperately need him)
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Maybe a flash bang grenade would scare the bear away most of the time?


48 posted on 05/06/2024 9:31:38 AM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> --- )
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What is critical is the ability to score hits under extreme stress.

Using a Europellet gun (9mm or .38+P), I can consistently outscore “no caliber that doesn’t start with four” shooters once the scenario adds some stress.

Not even using a charging grizzly, which I imagine adds a bit more stress that we can achieve at the range or in a shoot house.


59 posted on 05/06/2024 10:00:13 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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Too many variables in this one to make any categorical statement. A bear encounter is different from a bear attack, and hunting a bear is different from Mr. Bear hunting you. Still, simple rules: (1) have a gun, (2) hit the target. (3) is arguing about caliber and is best performed at the local saloon afterward.


63 posted on 05/06/2024 10:19:50 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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“Handgun Defense Against Bears, Caliber NOT Critical as Thought...”

Yeah, right. That’s why experienced Alaskan guides carry 22’s.


65 posted on 05/06/2024 10:33:00 AM PDT by Bonemaker (invictus maneo)
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I’m still packing a Glock 20 with Buffalo Bore 220 gr ammo over a .22 pistol.


69 posted on 05/06/2024 11:23:51 AM PDT by AlaskaErik (There are three kinds of rats: Rats, Damned Rats, and DemocRats.)
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