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Plan to Show Confederate Flag Draws Heat
AP ^ | Mon Oct 3, 7:08 PM ET | AP

Posted on 10/04/2005 12:33:44 AM PDT by injin

SPRINGFIELD, Ill. - An organizer of a planned memorial to honor Confederate soldiers who died at an Illinois prison camp says the rebel flag will be displayed at the memorial's dedication, despite opposition.

"We consider this an honorable flag. This is a soldier's flag," said Ron Casteel, national chief of staff for the Sons of Confederate Veterans, one of the memorial's planners. "There will be no substitute."

Camp Butler, just east of Springfield, was a training facility for Union troops during the Civil War and a prison camp for more than 3,500 captured Confederates. More than 800 of the prisoners died and were buried there, and the site is now a national cemetery.

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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
rotflmRao!

BRAVO! WELL-SAID!

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681 posted on 11/05/2005 5:37:07 AM PST by stand watie (Being a DAMNyankee is no better than being a RACIST. DYism is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: All
to ALL,

in case all ya ll don't know, the Yellow Rose was a beautiful "lady of colour" (i.e. a light-skinned Black woman), who was a spy for the Texas Revolutionary Army.

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682 posted on 11/05/2005 5:40:31 AM PST by stand watie (Being a DAMNyankee is no better than being a RACIST. DYism is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: tkathy
Every time you post you prove my statement.
683 posted on 11/05/2005 5:44:33 AM PST by HoustonCurmudgeon (A right wing Christian, not part of the Christian Right)
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To: tkathy; All
hey everybody,

gather round. we've got ourselves a "live one" here.

this is an example of a person who believes the SELF-SERVING propaganda of the REVISIONIST, LEFTIST, DY LIE MACHINE.

lincoln was good for the people of the southland in the same way that hitler was good for the Jews.

free dixie,sw

684 posted on 11/05/2005 5:45:08 AM PST by stand watie (Being a DAMNyankee is no better than being a RACIST. DYism is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: tkathy
Every day all folks in the South should get down on their knees and give thanks for this great leader, who save the south from a depraved country of tyranny that eventually would destroy itself.

The Confederacy committed suicide? I think history proves that it was attacked and defeated by the tyrant in question.

Get on our knees to worship a madman that instigated a war of subjugation, a war that lead to the deaths of 623,000 men, and untold innocent Southern women and children deprived of the husband or father, because some 1861 version of Sadaam would rather kill his own people rather than acknowledge their right to self government?

Pray for a lunatic that assumed the roles of Congress and the judiciary - by definition a tyrant - who had the insane idea that waging war on his fellow man to prevent their independence was a just cause? Do you also worship American Tories, and wish that they had been successful in preventing American independence?

Before our independence from Britain, a young Christian lawyer rode into Culpepper VA, only to witness the "scourging" of a Baptist preacher, simply because the preacher refused to purchase a license from the Crown to preach. Scourging laid open the man's back, down to the very bone. Three days later the preacher still refused to purchase a license, and was scourged again.

He died that same day. That preacher was one of twelve who stood up to a tyrannical government. The young lawyer, after witnessing the incident, went on exhort his fellow countrymen to declare their independence, indeed it was his vivid portrayal of that scene that many claim was the turning point which cemented our determination to secede from Britain. In that historic speech, he dramatically and passionately poured his very emotion into words,

'What is it that Gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear, or peace so sweet, as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, Almighty God! I know no what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death!'
Of course, we know that young lawyer as Patrick Henry. Another famous American, Samuel Adams, perfectly expressed his sentiments for cowards, Tories and statists (aka Lincolites),
'If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and posterity forget that ye were our countrymen.'
You have the unmitigated gall to insinuate that myself and others, who ancestors fought in the Revolutionary War, whose ancestors - simple farmers - picked up their guns and rushed to defend their home from invasion, leaving their wife and family to do so, should bow down and thank God for the death of their loved ones?

With that ma'am, you are, respectfully, insane.

Deo vindice!

685 posted on 11/05/2005 9:23:07 AM PST by 4CJ (Tu ne cede malis, sed contra audentior ito, qua tua te fortuna sinet.)
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To: 4CJ

Denial is not a river in Egypt!


686 posted on 11/05/2005 9:44:25 AM PST by tkathy (Do-nothings are not the ones who have saved oppressed people from tyranny.)
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To: 4CJ
WELL SAID!

free dixie,sw

687 posted on 11/05/2005 4:06:10 PM PST by stand watie (Being a DAMNyankee is no better than being a RACIST. DYism is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: tkathy
nope. it's not a river in Egypt or elsewhere.

DENIAL is what ignorant, arrogant,statist, self-righteous DAMNyankees & DUMB-bunnies do when they kneel at the clay feet of their secular saint ===>DIShonest abe, the TYRANT & WAR CRIMINAL.

as a direct result of his TYRANNY & ARROGANT SELF-righteousness, a MILLION people died in a needLESS war of conquest to reconquer a small, relatively poor new republic in the south.

there is NOTHING to be thankful for in that. just a multitude of reasons to be SAD for the loss of so many innocent lives!

in MY family 14 soldiers & CS Marines & at least 92 innocent, UNarmed, helpless elderly men,women & children died as a result of that OBSCENE war & lincons CRUELTY. free dixie,sw

688 posted on 11/05/2005 4:15:03 PM PST by stand watie (Being a DAMNyankee is no better than being a RACIST. DYism is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: 4CJ

Couldn't have said it better..good to see ya again 4CJ!


689 posted on 11/05/2005 7:57:52 PM PST by TexConfederate1861
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To: TexConfederate1861
WELL-SAID!

free dixie,sw

691 posted on 11/05/2005 8:03:15 PM PST by stand watie (Being a DAMNyankee is no better than being a RACIST. DYism is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: stand watie

"the Yellow Rose was a beautiful "lady of colour" (i.e. a light-skinned Black woman)"

yum........ :^)


693 posted on 11/05/2005 11:37:13 PM PST by injin
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To: stand watie; tkathy
Hey there stand...

WTF is it with the Confederate flag?

It is perfectly fine to honor those who have fallen fighting under it. Why can we not honor all our brothers?

tkathy, ever been on the losing end of an argument? Ever admit it?

driveserve
694 posted on 11/05/2005 11:59:00 PM PST by driveserve
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To: injin
from my "thought you'd want to know" file:

The Yellow Rose, among some of the TRUE stories told about her exploits for TEXAS FREEDOM,was asked to "entertain" the dictator, Antonio Lopez de Santa Anna, on the night prior to San Jacinto & to try to find out his plans.

She was SO ENTERTAINING that he never left his tent during the BATTLE!

otoh, i have NOT been able to document from the records that she also "stuck a dagger in the throats of two Mexican Lancer Colonels after Goliad", though i've asked a BUNCH of more knowledgeable people than i if they knew of documentation of that particular exploit.

i DO know that at least FOUR men in Grayson County got themselves KILLED by other suitors for her favors. TWO other men committed SUICIDE, because she rejected their proposals of marriage in the 1840s.

The Yellow Rose must have been SPECTACULARLY beautiful! (the ONLY painting of her that is known to exist was painted MORE than 40 YEARS after her death, based on the memory of one of her many admirers, who was then "old & infirm".)

IF she REALLY looked like that,i'm surprised that MORE men didn't get themselves killed over her! rotflmRao!

free dixie,sw

695 posted on 11/06/2005 5:33:28 AM PST by stand watie (Being a DAMNyankee is no better than being a RACIST. DYism is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: driveserve
HI, driveserve!

free dixie,sw

696 posted on 11/06/2005 5:34:36 AM PST by stand watie (Being a DAMNyankee is no better than being a RACIST. DYism is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: injin
btw, the purported painting of The Yellow Rose is a life-size "draped nude", which was on display at the Amon Carter Museum in "Cowtown".

free dixie,sw

697 posted on 11/06/2005 5:43:52 AM PST by stand watie (Being a DAMNyankee is no better than being a RACIST. DYism is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: WestVirginiaRebel
over here, Reb!

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698 posted on 11/06/2005 1:19:46 PM PST by stand watie (Being a DAMNyankee is no better than being a RACIST. DYism is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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To: driveserve

Once in a while.


699 posted on 11/06/2005 3:32:36 PM PST by tkathy (Do-nothings are not the ones who have saved oppressed people from tyranny.)
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To: 4CJ
the members of the DY coven willingly bow down to lick the hands of their "betters".

they seem to have done so for so long that they NOW look forward to the experience.

or it COULD be that being from the "blue zone" saps your lust for FREEDOM & predisposes you to become dependent???

PITY!

in either case, we ALL would be FAR better off if they were across the international border.

THEN they could have the "secular-humanist,GodLESS,"oh so PC", SOCIALIST,nanny-state" they seem to want & we southrons could have our LIBERTY! (everybody would then , i predict, after a year or so, be MUCH happier.)

free dixie,sw

700 posted on 11/06/2005 6:20:34 PM PST by stand watie (Being a DAMNyankee is no better than being a RACIST. DYism is a LEARNED prejudice against dixie.)
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