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Are you happy now, Trump supporters?
The Washington Post ^ | October 14, 2019 | Max Boot, Neocon & #NeverTrump-er

Posted on 10/14/2019 7:52:37 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

President Trump isn’t the first American leader to turn his back on foreign friends who were counting on U.S. assistance: President Dwight D. Eisenhower did it in Hungary in 1956; President John F. Kennedy in Cuba in 1961; and President Gerald Ford in South Vietnam in 1975. But no previous chief executive has ever sold out the United States’ allies as nonchalantly and unnecessarily as Trump has done with the Syrian Kurds.

At least with Eisenhower, Kennedy and Ford, there was a good reason they failed to come to the aid of freedom fighters: Doing so would have embroiled the United States in costly conflicts. Trump and his apologists would like to pretend that’s also the case today — that Trump pulled U.S. troops out of northern Syria to avoid a war with Turkey. But there is scant chance that Turkish troops would have invaded northern Syria if U.S. troops were standing in the way. That is why President Recep Tayyip Erdogan asked Trump to move the U.S. forces — and Trump, for reasons that remain mysterious, obliged. (Trump himself admitted in 2015 that “I have a little conflict of interest” because of two Trump Towers in Istanbul.)

The consequences of the American pullout are proving to be every bit as catastrophic as most observers — and Trump’s own aides — had feared. On “Face the Nation” on Sunday, Defense Secretary Mark T. Esper said that ever since coming to office about two months ago, he had been urging the Turks not to invade Syria. “We cited all the reasons that are now playing out,” he said. “The biggest being the likely release of ISIS fighters from these camps and prisons, not just that we see a humanitarian crisis emerging.”

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To: Destroyer Sailor

The MUZZYS are supposedly a religion made up of various clans,tribes and factions. They cannot agree among themselves and there is some 1400 tears of constant conflict including amongst themselves. Ol King Saud called for the HASHEMITE SCUM to leave his country...Hashemite scum is royal family of JORDAN today.

This is a major reason why they have never been able to for a nation of their own. We are best to cut our losses and leave.


81 posted on 10/14/2019 8:23:50 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory toooo long.............)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I think that the left wants us to attack Egypt again. The coup attempt Obama financed ultimately failed.

Perhaps if their extradition request on Obama is still active we could go ahead and ship him to them.


82 posted on 10/14/2019 8:24:13 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptors)
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To: LouieFisk

MODRATELY

COMEY, HILLARY, LYNCH, RICE, OBAMA, WALKING FREE. F ON RULE OF LAW

WITHHOLDING MY CONCLUSION ON THE WLL TILL MORE PROGRESS. C-

SANCTUARY CITIES CREATING MORE US VICTIMS D-


83 posted on 10/14/2019 8:24:23 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Use Comey's Report, Indict Hillary now; build Kate's wall. --- Proud Smelly Walmart Deplorable)
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To: Hostage

And people will not vote for changing something that works!


84 posted on 10/14/2019 8:25:06 AM PDT by Scarpetta (The election of Donald Trump is proof God loves us and wants us to be happy.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Until the US can rape, pillage, and haul home the plunder, I'd suggest that we should avoid climbing into these latrines.

After all, how much does any government appreciate our efforts? Britain? France? Viet Nam? China? Korea?

85 posted on 10/14/2019 8:26:06 AM PDT by jonascord (First rule of the Dunning-Kruger Club is that you do not know you are in the Dunning-Kruger club.)
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To: lucky american
What the hell do they want?

They want you to start chanting "Orange Man Bad" robotically.

86 posted on 10/14/2019 8:27:12 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: Jane Long

Notice how there is a group of people coming out to protect this war. They never mentioned it before. But now this war, that few people knew about, is so important. Its the vast military complex that makes more money off the government during war time than all three of our car makers put together. The whining you hear from Mr. Boots and others both democrat and republican, is simply the PR firms and lobbyists of the weapons makers, screaming that their business is being cut back. And for what? A wall that Trump voters were promised. What! How dare Trump stop feeding weapons to the middle east war tribes and spend our tax dollars on a wall that the American people actually want.


87 posted on 10/14/2019 8:27:28 AM PDT by poinq
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Max Boot is really ignorant.


89 posted on 10/14/2019 8:28:30 AM PDT by FXRP (Cogito, ergo Spam!)
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To: Drew68

correction: two schiffs


90 posted on 10/14/2019 8:28:36 AM PDT by AbolishCSEU (Amount of "child" support paid is inversely proportionate to mother's actual parenting of children)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nope. Not that happy yet. Not enough Democreeps ib jail...yet.


91 posted on 10/14/2019 8:28:51 AM PDT by TalBlack (Damn right I'll "do something" you fat, balding son of a bitc)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Yes, I AM happy WaPo idiots.

You are only journalists - poor ones who love lying and have no morality.
You are at the bottom of the slime heap and Trump, travelling at light speed, would take years to descent to your level.

We absolutely, positively loathe you and will welcome the reintroduction of the guillotine following CW-II which you are causing.


92 posted on 10/14/2019 8:30:29 AM PDT by Da Coyote
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Secure our borders, then we can talk about the Syria, Turkey, and Iraq shiff stain.


93 posted on 10/14/2019 8:32:02 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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Syria doesn't want us there
Turkey doesn't want us there. They fired on our troops
Russia doesn't want us there

EU wants us there to protect their oil pipes. They can do it themselves but they refuse.
Kurds want us there to stop a 1500 year war they had with their navigators. Aww... none of our business.
The deep state wants to protect Israel against Islam. Again send in their EU troops. they refused.

94 posted on 10/14/2019 8:34:33 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: poinq; rintintin; Jane Long

Come you masters of war
You that build the big guns
You that build the death planes
You that build all the bombs
You that hide behind walls
You that hide behind desks
I just want you to know
I can see through your masks

You that never done nothin’
But build to destroy
You play with my world
Like it’s your little toy
You put a gun in my hand
And you hide from my eyes
And you turn and run farther
When the fast bullets fly

Like Judas of old
You lie and deceive
A world war can be won
You want me to believe
But I see through your eyes
And I see through your brain
Like I see through the water
That runs down my drain

You fasten all the triggers
For the others to fire
Then you sit back and watch
When the death count gets higher
You hide in your mansion
While the young people’s blood
Flows out of their bodies
And is buried in the mud

You’ve thrown the worst fear
That can ever be hurled
Fear to bring children
Into the world
For threatening my baby
Unborn and unnamed
You ain’t worth the blood
That runs in your veins

How much do I know
To talk out of turn
You might say that I’m young
You might say I’m unlearned
But there’s one thing I know
Though I’m younger than you
That even Jesus would never
Forgive what you do

Let me ask you one question
Is your money that good?
Will it buy you forgiveness
Do you think that it could?
I think you will find
When your death takes its toll
All the money you made
Will never buy back your soul

And I hope that you die
And your death will come soon
I’ll follow your casket
By the pale afternoon
And I’ll watch while you’re lowered
Down to your deathbed
And I’ll stand over your grave
‘Til I’m sure that you’re dead

Bob Dylan, Spring 1963


95 posted on 10/14/2019 8:34:55 AM PDT by Jim Noble (There is nothing racist in stating plainly what most people already know)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If Congress wants to execute a war, declare it.


96 posted on 10/14/2019 8:35:16 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (Specialization is for insects.)
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To: MNJohnnie
Nope. Just another excuse for the hysteric Never Trumper to mindlessly whine. What is the vital US Security interest involved in the US giving the Kurd’s a US backed military shield to hide behind while they continue their separatists attacks on the internationally recognized Governments of Iran, Iraq and Turkey? So were just suppose to endlessly continue the “Emperor of Earth” polices of the last 4 US Presidents? We suppose to write a blank check payable in US blood and treasure to every oppressed group everywhere? Frankly I prefer Trump’s return to the pre Bush family traditional US policy. Bush the 1st made a massive mistake ending our “Over the Horizon” posture in the ME. By failing to decisively win Desert Storm in 1991 Bush locked us in a full body hug with the Middle East tar-baby ever since. It is time the USA start figuring out how to pry ourselves off that mess. Like the Border Crisis Congress’s complete lack of any responsible action over Obama/Clinton/Biden/McCain’s misguided adventure in Syria required the President to take action. Now that we are a energy exporter, for the 1st time since the 1960s, our national security interest in protecting the flow of oil out of the ME is greatly reduced. It is time we start re-thinking all our national polices. However, Congress has shown they will not act unless forced to it by the Executive.

Partner, you hit a homerun with your statements above and I could not have said this better.

The DemonRat party just not understand us that we can not have Globalization and Open Borders without hurting the Ameircan Patriot workers, period.

I agree 100% that President Trump is not like the rest of these so called POTUS's like we have had for the past 60 years.

The MSM just hate our present POTUS and yet, they loved our "America Hating Piece of Work Obama." Heck, the MSM hates America with a passion!

This says it all about our Fake MSM and why they were crying after they lost the last election to President Trump.

97 posted on 10/14/2019 8:36:16 AM PDT by TheConservativeTejano (God Bless Texas...)
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To: crz

“As I understand..the Syrian Kurds are PKK. “

Exactly. There are no “good guys” in that war.


98 posted on 10/14/2019 8:37:43 AM PDT by monday
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To: deadrock

Dittos

“”””””


99 posted on 10/14/2019 8:38:11 AM PDT by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: GMMC0987

IIRC Ford pled Congress to give support to the South Vietnamese. This dims said no. The north won without much effort after that.


100 posted on 10/14/2019 8:39:17 AM PDT by xp38
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