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To: Numeaning
Are those your assertions interspersed with the links? It seems to me, if that is the case, that you feel assured that Dad, in this scenario, is less culpable in the decision to abort based on his "religious beliefs."

Tell me: Which religion is it which gives the big thumbs up to premarital sex? How strong were this mans religious convictions when he impregnated a woman who was not his wife--or did she coerce him into that as well? You don't think it is at all possible that he pressured her to abort because he was ashamed at having impregnated her to begin with?

I could just hear her argument now...

No, you could not, unless you are working on her legal team. But please, continue to imagine all you like.

8 posted on 09/25/2006 6:02:37 AM PDT by grellis (I don't know, let me ask my I Ching)
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To: grellis
Which religion is it which gives the big thumbs up to premarital sex? How strong were this mans religious convictions when he impregnated a woman who was not his wife--or did she coerce him into that as well? You don't think it is at all possible that he pressured her to abort because he was ashamed at having impregnated her to begin with?

I think you have a good point here, but lewt's be clear: Christianity didn't cause this, exacerbate it, make the abortion more likely or ameliorate anyone's guilt in any way. The guy wussed out on his faith in more than one way, and both of these people did someothing any idiot could figure was wrong without the help of any religion.

12 posted on 09/25/2006 8:02:33 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback ("Now they will know better than to fight a martial arts master who is also made of gelatin!")
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To: grellis
The whole point of the post was that there first was a "Miami Herald" article that didn't really give us a motive why this girl would suddenly say these things and shoot this guy. "The Sentinel" gave us a motive or possible motive and that was that this guy was indecisive about whether abortion was right or wrong. The guy should be equally culpable for the baby. When I said I could hear "her" now, I was imagining that she was probably angry about his inability to own up to the decision they both made and obviously she was suffering more emotionally over.

"It takes two to tango", and that although she chose to be angry, I imagined that it may have been possible that he could of helped diffuse the situation and helped put her in a more resourceful state.

His friend implied that the guy was against abortion but felt "it was the right thing to do". People that don't stand for something stand for nothing. In other words it's quite possible he was being "wishy washy" again after the abortion and not willing to take equal responsibility for what they both chose to do.

Yes, it is quite possible that he pressured her to abort. It may even be possible that he got another girl pregnant prior to this one and that girl suprised him and decided on her own to have an abortion. If he's stupid, a guy like that could easily interpret that to mean he doesn't have to take responsibility for the children he brings into the world. That kind of father is then likely to put other women into the same trouble. And so once again abortion just leads to more abortions.
24 posted on 09/28/2006 1:56:02 AM PDT by Numeaning ("If everybody's thinking alike then somebody's not thinking" ~General George S Patton)
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