I would think that the powers that be on this forum might frown on that as THE goal, rather than focus on the dangerous people in Washington DC, who are destroying this nation.
I guess attacking conservatives on the Internet is more "fun" and definitely easier than rolling up your sleeves and working to get rid of the enemy in Washington, eh?
This is a very revealing, but not in the least surprising admission from the groupthink gang. I'm glad I stopped by here.
Truth that sets us free, so to speak.......right Nathan?
First of all, I have been popping in only minimally today, so I have NO idea who started THIS latest round, or WHERE it started up again...nor do I have the desire to backtrack and SEE who started it. I THOUGHT we were finished with this stuff (and, please, NOBODY start with the “he said/she said”...it’s moot now).
So...since I was pinged, I’ll respond.
Ohio, I don’t always agree in toto with folks out here; anyone who’s ever pinged me or conversed with me over the time I’ve been blogging here (since 2006) knows that. But civility (from ALL sides) is a good thing to maintain. I do try to maintain it myself (not always successfully, either).
That being said - people are entitled to their opinions. Right or wrong, what they believe is what they believe, so to the best of my thinking, we all should TRY to express our opinions in the way that will convince folks of the “rightness” of our way of thinking - if indeed we are “right” - or until we ourselves are proven wrong, in which case we stand up and say “Ok. My bad.” and move on. Correct?
Socratic method of dialogue - logic, candor, and more importantly, good will. And isn’t this the season for “Peace on Earth, Good Will towards men...”?
We can’t ever have the Peace on Earth part; but we CAN have “Peace on Free Republic”...
So, that being said, I reiterate my former stated position: Let’s all just be cool and discuss things without the vitriol - which is coming from BOTH sides.
Where do we agree?
1. NO RINO candidates. Correct?
2. NO Socialist-lite candidates. Correct?
3. PARTY does NOT come before Country. Correct?
4. NEITHER PARTY has had OUR best interests at heart, for the most part. Correct?
5. We FIND the best/most Conservative candidate we can and push him or her FORWARD, and support that person. Correct?
6. We FIGHT against the PARTY if the PARTY tries to stick us with a Liberal RINO. Correct?
7. The DEMS MUST BE crushed in the next election, and NOT supplanted by a closet socialist from “our” side. Correct?
Other than that...what else is there to say? A LOT of this is WAY out of our direct control, unless, as I’ve said, we’re ALL elbow deep in our LOCAL politics, where we CAN exercise a measure of influence. If we act locally, we’re within the Six Foot Radius of Direct Personal Influence so to speak.
Look at this way: - OhioWfan - If a crazed, lunatic mujahedeen fanatic was holding a knife to Rabs’ throat and threatening to behead him, and YOU were there on scene as a first responder and had a gun, you’d blast the Moojie right between his eyes, because Rabs is a fellow American, correct? He’s one of US.
-Rabs: Same scenario for you. You’d drop the Mooj trash in his tracks to protect a fellow American, right?
(man,I hope to GOD both of you said YES!)
You protect the AMERICAN. Period. Because he/she is one of US. Whatever differences you have become moot, because it’s life or death at that point, and that AMERICAN will have your six, and you will have theirs.
Simplistic? Yeah. Hell, yeah. Absolutely so. But I’m a simple man. I view things that way.
I can’t solve your verbal wars for you out here; only YOU guys can do that - by stopping the vitriol on either side of the fence. And sooner or later, if it gets nasty enough, the Mods WILL step in and folks will be banned...and good voices on BOTH sides of this fence might get silenced - preventing newbies and others just joining in from learning what WE already know and were woken up to. Rabs, I learned a WEALTH of information from you and your “Juan McCain” updates. So did many other folks out here.
Remember one thing: At the end of the day, the other side HATES ALL of us equally. THEY don’t give a rat’s butt how YOU feel about each other, except as to how THEY can benefit from it. And believe me, a couple of assh*les over at Democrat Underground (good name for the b*stards) are probably haveing a FIELD day reading some of these threads. They’re positively salivating over it.
They’re the REAL b*stards; they and their czars and Kommisars, and their Washington Apparachniks and their little Skidmark wannabe dictator. We’re just the people caught in the crosshairs.
Again, one team, one fight. Agree to disagree, and then leave it alone.
It’s almost Christmas...a little Peace on Free Republic is a good thing. Capeesh?
Any idea what this nutbag is referring to? Anyone know of an admission posted here to attack conservatives? Considering that she threatened to report me to the moderator more than once, don't you think if she found an admission like this (especially by those she dislikes) it would be reported?
Yes, there are many very dangerous people who are destroying the United States, but not all of them live and work in Washington and New York.
Unfortunately, your willful and unrepentant admiration for some of them, e.g., the RINO George W. Bush, despite their well-documented, non-conservative, statist records in office is beyond disgusting. It's downright repugnant, because you know exactly what they did, yet you prefer to perform the virtual equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears, looking away, and yelling "la la la la that never happened la la la la."
Now, frankly, if there's anything I think that the powers that be here on FR would frown upon, it's pushing a bigger, more intrusive, activist Federal government over the inalienable, Creator-endowed rights of the individual human being, or in other words, pushing an agenda of statism in direct contravention of individual freedom.
Reagan once said:
...but I would like to suggest that there is no such thing as a left or right. There is only an up or down--up to a man's age-old dream, the ultimate in individual freedom consistent with law and order--or down to the ant heap totalitarianism, and regardless of their sincerity, their humanitarian motives, those who would trade our freedom for security have embarked on this downward course.
So, as far as I am concerned, the goal here is not to blindly elect more Republicans, nor is it to elect nominal conservatives, irrespective of political allegiance, who either don't have a problem with abusing their power to accomplish what, on the surface and in the short run, appear to be desirable conservative outcomes, but in the long run are nothing more than political daggers that can be wielded in the future against conservatives by other American social factions.
The goal is to elect people at the Federal level who are willing to actually follow through with the oaths that they swear to uphold and defend the Constitution. That is the only way that we can accomplish the real goal of preserving and enhancing the freedom and sovereignty of the various States, and more importantly, the individual American, obviously, and in agreement with Reagan, in a manner consistent with law and order.
Merely replacing "the dangerous people in Washington DC...who are destroying this nation" with more dangerous people of a different stripe will accomplish nothing otherwise.
Furthermore, focusing too intently on achieving social outcomes by leaning on the power of the centralized Federal government--and mind you, centralized, concentrated power is extremely dangerous, no matter who holds it--completely misses the point that lasting social change can only be effected by voluntarily convincing people that adopting your worldview, or at least, parts of it, is in their self-interests. The reason for the so-called "culture war" and the "moral decay" that many social conservatives thoroughly abhor is not because of any lack of laws or restrictions at the Federal level; rather, it has come about because various Churches have lapsed and the right of the parents to educate their children has been surrendered to State-run educational institutions. No amount of Federal government this or that will solve either one of those two problems; in fact, giving the Federal government more power might very well make them even worse. After all, government is straight-up force, and all it can do is manipulate, control, and cajole people by threat of force.
Now, as a last word, in order for conservatives to move forward, particularly if they intend to continue using the Republican Party as the primary--but not only--vehicle for an agenda of small, Constitutional government and of individual freedom, then they--we--must repudiate and cast off past sins, much like, as Christians, in order to be cleansed, we must genuinely and throughly repent of our sins. Unfortunately for Bush apologists like ohioWfan, that means having to confront the Bush political record of RINO-ism, something that, based on her comments as of late, she seems unwilling to do.