Posted on 05/07/2011 11:03:19 AM PDT by EternalVigilance
I would have RATHER have had Romney than McLAME last time!!
You can tell Cain is scaring the libtards already
And you may want to hear what Herman said on the Boortz show earlier in January. That statement at your link was just a bit fuzzy to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiAkeFJXwUk&sns=fb
I think Herman needs to come back with a much stronger statement on this subject sooner than later.
And you may want to hear what Herman said on the Boortz show earlier in January. That statement at your link was just a bit fuzzy to me.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiAkeFJXwUk&sns=fb
I think Herman needs to come back with a much stronger statement on this subject sooner than later.
Well, I guess the good news with that is you won’t be walking out the front door to vote against him either, at least in a general election wherein he is a candidate. I feel I have to pick and chose my battles, and over this issue and Cain, I chose not to participate against him. When I look at the electable cast of characters, there is not much to support beyond Cain and a few others.
“Ooops. That’s gonna be a deal-breaker for a whole lot of conservatives.”
There are so many. That’s why we often end up with no deal at all.
“Considering his support for TARP. Cain is finished, just no one has informed him yet.”
Pro-TARP, pro-Romney. I’m very disappointed to scratch him off my list of possibilities.
Last time around we ended up with McLame- Romney wouldhave actually been a better choice
The ONLY thing McLame ever did was bring Sarah Palin into prominence This is a hit piece designed to bring down enthusiasm for Cain
If I remember correctly even Ann Coulter said she would vote for HilLIARy over McLame
In the end she said she voted for Palin
It was not a good situation we were in last time. That’s why it is frustrating to see the 90% Conservatives being torn down this early. Unless they are an overt RINO like Paul or Johnson (etc) we should be pushing up all of the Conservative candidates at this point. The last thing we need is circular firing squads before the first primary vote takes place. Train our guns on the real enemies. (that is a figure of speech Dem lurkers.)
Interesting. You call Alan Keyes a "crap candidate."
So, let's compare Alan Keyes and Herman Cain.
Cain is saying it's all about jobs, jobs, jobs. Money, money, money. Same talking points I hear down here in Des Moines. From the Republicans AND the Democrats. Identical.
Same rhetoric we hear from Washington, DC. Before they sell us out on the money. Again. And before they meddle economically in something that isn't their job: creating jobs.
But what has Alan Keyes consistently had to say since his voice was first raised nationally in 1995? While he's always had a deep understanding of true economics, and has always been an effective advocate for it going back to his days in the Reagan administration, his message has ALWAYS been that first and foremost we don't have money problems. We have moral problems.
You can denigrate him all you want. It's a free country. But he's always been right on almost everything that addresses what is really wrong with the country and what must be done to amend it.
Herman Cain, unfortunately, is the John Cox of this election cycle.
He and Alan Keyes have nothing in common.
Former UN Representative, African-American, ALAN KEYES had previously heard pro-abortion statements throughout the day of the gathering of the present Republican candidates for President in New Hampshire on February 19, 1995. A passion came over him. He stepped up to the microphone at that banquet and gave the following speech:
"I am actually from the great state of Maryland, where my ancestors have lived for the last 200 years, sometimes as free men and women and sometimes as slaves.
"And I realized as I was listening to the speakers who came before me that I come at an important juncture in this program. Because I think that the great alternatives have been laid before you tonight. And we Republicans are going to have to decide again, as we have had to decide in the past, whether we shall only speak of justice and speak of principle or whether we shall stand and fight for them! Whether we shall quote from the words of the DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE with real conviction or whether we shall take that document and throw it on the ash heap of history as we adopt the message of those who say that we can stand silent in the face of injustice!
"When it comes to deciding whether we shall stand by the great principle that declares that all human beings are created equal and endowed by their Creator with the right to life, there is no choice for silence! THERE IS NO CHOICE FOR SILENCE!
"And I can tell you right now, that those who are recommending that we pull the "Pro-Life" plank out of the Republican Party platform are recommending as some people decided in the Whig Party in the years before the Civil War that they would be silent on the great issue of principle that faced this nation, we shall be silent. The Republican Party grew up as a Party aimed at dealing with that moral irresponsibility. At standing on the principle that Lincoln articulated, that 'You can not have the right to do what is wrong.'
"And I'll tell you, we have heard a lot of people tonight. They talk about the money and they talk about the budget. But you and I both know, if we are willing to look ourselves in the eye what the truth is. Why is it that we spend so much money on welfare and illegitimacy? Why is it that we spend so much money on crime and violence in our streets? Why is it even that we spend so much money dealing with the problem of irresponsible behavior that contributes to the decline of the health of this nation? I think you all know in your hearts what the real answer is. We don't have MONEY problems. We have MORAL problems. And it's time we stood up and faced that truth!
"And I don't know how, I don't know how we're going to face that truth. If as what's suggested here today we can look our daughters in the eye and tell them that it is somehow consistent with freedom for them to trample on the human rights of their unborn offspring.
"We're going to have find the courage one of these days to tell people that freedom is not an easy discipline. Freedom is not a choice for those who are lazy in their heart and in their respect for their own moral capacities. Freedom requires that at the end of the day, you accept the constraint that is required, the respect for the laws of nature and nature's God that say unequivocally that your daughters do not have the right to do what is wrong, that our sons do not have the right to do what is wrong. They do not have the right to steal bread from the mouths of the innocent, they do not have the right to steal life from the womb of the unborn.
"And I'll tell you, some people may say, that if we stand up and we speak out and we fight for that principle we'll be dividing the Republican Party. But I don't think so. This Party was born on a clear commitment to principle. This Party was born of those who had the courage to stand before the American people and in the face of the threat of a greater division than we'll ever face, insist that we had to respect the principle that make us great, the principles that make us strong, the principles that make us free.
"Look at what's happening in the streets of our cities, look at what's happening to our families today. Do you think that the decline of marriage and the moral disillusion of the family is a money problem? Or do you think it's a problem that comes from putting the self first from deciding that there are no obligations that have to be respected and that at the end of the day, freedom is just another kind of empty licentiousness? We know better and our Founders knew better and it's time that we get back to the truth. They did not tell us that freedom would be an easy road. They offered us a true vision of the future of America. It was NOT a vision of licentious freedom and stupid self-indulgence. It was a vision of freedom based upon the fear of God and the respect for law.
"And why is it, that out of the mouths of all our statesmen and we hear all these great emotional words but they won't speak the simple truths that our Founders from Washington through Jefferson to Lincoln and every President spoke until we got to our own cowardly times? We are not going to remain a free people if we insist on being a corrupt and licentious people. We are not going to remain a free people if we arrogate to ourselves the right to destroy the rights of others. And that's exactly what we are doing when we embrace the so-called "pro-choice", the truly pro-abortion agenda.
"My friends, I think it's empty to praise the courage of the men and women who have died in the service of this country's freedom and its principles and yet decide that we shall lack the courage to stand up for those principles, many or few, or even alone if we must. Because that is in fact the courage that built America.
"This nation was not as some would have us believe a dream of material progress and prosperity and great cities and mountains of money. I'm glad that we have achieved that prosperity, even though it came at much expense to some of my forebearers. Those who toiled in the depths of slavery, they had an understanding of the real dream of American freedom. It's the dream of moral dignity that comes from respecting our true moral capacity. It's the dream of self-government that comes from respecting the fact that in the end, freedom is not just a choice, it is not just an opportunity. It can be a burden and a sacrifice and an obligation. And above all, it is the obligation to respect the truth of our moral identity. That moral identity can unite us across every line of race and color and creed so long as we have the courage to stand for it.
"Now I think you know by now, looking at the Clinton Administration, that if we as Republicans abandon that line of principle, it will surely be abandoned in America. But I can also tell you this in warning, that if you abandon that line of principle, there are Americans who will fight few or many, alone if we must, to make sure that it prevails. And in every point in our history, when we had the choice between right and wrong, in the end, this country chose what was right. And we can be grateful for it. And I think we shall do so again, because we know that the real heroes in America are those in their families and in their daily lives respect the truth that we must meet the obligations and sacrifices of freedom before we claim its privileges and benefits.
"And if that means as well that 'come what may.' Even if it means that we must sacrifice in our personal lives we have to stand where our Founders stood on the belief that you cannot have the right to do what is wrong, but that if we build self-government on a true adherence to the principles of justice, then we shall hold up a beacon of right and hope for all of human kind to understand the true destiny of mankind. Thank-you"
This is, of course, a message that has been forced from the formerly grand old party, along with its messengers. They'd rather entertain libertarians who think states can kill babies if they want, or that heroin and prostitution should be legal, or pro-child-killing socialists, or advocates for socialized medicine. But real moral conservatism? Nah. That's beyond the pale. Speak it and you'll be called "crap."
No comparison. Herman Cain is not a grifter like Alan Keyes.
“no it is not gonna be a deal breaker”
I didn’t say it was, I was quoting a previous post. My point is that there are so many purist, single-issue folks hereon that ultimately no one but St. Sarah is acceptable (and I’m waiting for her to color outside the lines and be labeled a RINO any day now...some would say she already has by campaigning for McLame in his last bid for re-election).
I agree that Romney, while sucking in many ways, would have been a better choice than McLame. I signed petitions to recall him years ago and contributed to Hayworth’s campaign in the last election. Can’t stand him...
What does it matter when in fact, whether "D"s or "R"s they all in truth have a big huge "L" by their name?
Weak.
As opposed to Keyes, who has his own “L” next to his name - chronic Loser?
Truth.
Numbers, because there sometimes comes a point when, to empower Conservatives you need to have to get the numbers, otherwise they are little more than a coffee shop ranter. It is like the old argument if you employ spies with shady pasts. You can stay ideologically pure and say you won’t but then you don’t get the human intel you need.
If I supported TARP I could get on the couch with Newt and Nancy. There is no difference in your argument on TARP and those in the republican party pushing amnesty.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.