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1 posted on 11/20/2011 1:02:48 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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Okay well whoever is organizing this is now committing a crime.

I hope the police along with the FBI arrest the leaders so that the only thing they will occupy is a jail cell.


2 posted on 11/20/2011 1:08:09 AM PST by Sprite518
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BTW, where is the Department of Homeland Security? Oh yeah that right targeting anyone that politically disagrees with this administraion.
3 posted on 11/20/2011 1:09:18 AM PST by Sprite518
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is the same “Occupy Oakland” that got de-occupied last week when even the uber-lib Mayor got tired of the stench?


5 posted on 11/20/2011 1:10:52 AM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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From the site:

Upcoming Events
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20
Sun
12:00 pm Camp meeting
12:00 pm Meditation Group
12:00 pm Poetry for the People
12:00 pm Renegade Occupy Oakland Potluck and Dance Party
1:00 pm Events Committee Meeting
1:00 pm Web Comittee Meeting
2:00 pm Yoga
4:00 pm Committees Meeting
4:00 pm Queer POC and People of Color Committee Meeting
6:00 pm General Asembly Nov
21
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8:00 am Yoga Liberation
12:00 pm Camp meeting
12:00 pm Facilitation Committee Meeting
12:00 pm Meditation Group
1:00 pm Events Committee Meeting


7 posted on 11/20/2011 1:13:05 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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So there was no guilt because there was no economic gain, but isn’t the ultimate goal of getting rid of the OWSers’ college loans a case of economic gain?

http://www.religioustolerance.org/abo_rico.htm

Background:
The US Federal Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act (RICO) of 1970 was originally written to target organized crime. It allowed the courts to attack “enterprises” that engage in a “pattern of racketeering.” A similar piece of legislation, the Hobbs Act of 1946 makes it a crime to take property from another with force. Both have been used by pro-choice groups to target anti-abortion organizations.

1986 case:
In the early 1986, the National Organization of Women (NOW) used RICO to initiate a lawsuit against Operation Rescue, the Pro-Life Action League, the League’s Executive Director, Joseph Scheidler, and two of Scheidler’s associates: Timothy Murphy and Andrew Scholberg. The groups had allegedly blockaded a number of abortion clinics in Delaware and Wisconsin.

During the trial, U.S. District Judge David Coar prohibited the clinic lawyers from introducing evidence that they claimed would link the defendants to more than a decade of bombings and arson attacks throughout the U.S. However, they were allowed to introduce evidence about physical attacks and threats against clinic staff and patients.

The case proceeded against On 1998-APR-20, all of the defendants were found guilty of having engaged in 21 acts of extortion. The US Federal jury ordered the three activists and the two organizations to pay $85,962.92 in damages. The amount was based upon the cost of increased security arrangements during the blockade. Because of the nature of the RICO act, these damages were tripled to about $258,000. The way became clear for up to 1000 abortion clinics in the US to follow the lead of the the Milwaukee and Wilmington clinics, bring similar lawsuits, and claim massive damages.

Mr. Scheidler of the Pro-Life Action League commented: “They want to bankrupt us; there’s no question about that...We wanted to come out as a legitimate force in America, and not as racketeers. There is no honor in being a racketeer and we’re not racketeers.” Later, he said: “A million dollars, a billion dollars, a trillion dollars, the national debt - they won’t get it. You can’t get blood from a turnip - and we’re turnips.” Larry Crane, the lawyer representing Operation Rescue confirmed this; he said: “There’s no chance or likelihood of collecting any judgment against these impecunious defendants.”

Patricia Ireland, president of NOW, said: “A jury of six men and women saw through the thugs’ shameless attempt to pervert the First Amendment.”

NOW lost the case at the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals. The court decided that RICO could not be used in this instance. It ruled that the law can only be used in instances of criminal activity motivated by economic gain. 6


11 posted on 11/20/2011 1:17:40 AM PST by Darkwolf377 (Obama: The stupid person`s idea of a smart person.)
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You know... sometimes I just think it’s all a charade. The protestors are obviously operating with the tacit approval of the government, so they aren’t rebelling against the government, not really. They are rebelling against the wealthy. But the wealthy continue to pour billions into lobbying and donations to political figures on both sides. And frankly, I doubt the protest is hurting them. It’s only snarling traffic and hurting the little people in the immediate vicinity. None of it makes sense to me anymore. I mean, why don’t the rich Go Galt? They never do, which tells me none of this really hurts them. It’s all just this big, meaningless cycle.


13 posted on 11/20/2011 1:24:35 AM PST by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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How about the unwashed hippie wannabes, block Chinese container ships?

Just saying.

I could support that.


15 posted on 11/20/2011 1:30:13 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (Evict the unsanitary, violent occupiers. Now.)
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Set up machine guns and mow them down!!


17 posted on 11/20/2011 1:33:47 AM PST by dalereed (uity wise!)
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Every day homeland security is out protecting our ports (LA/Long Beach). These thugs want to play Al Qaeda? Domestic terrorism?


21 posted on 11/20/2011 1:38:31 AM PST by Yaelle (Still helping the Cain train wheels go round.)
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Occupy Oakland calls for the blockade and disruption of the economic apparatus of the 1% with a coordinated shutdown of ports on the entire West Coast on December 12th.

Why are all Marxist horrible at math ? Occupy Oakland calls for 0.001 % of the population to shutdown the import infrastructure for 99.999 % of the population.

27 posted on 11/20/2011 2:12:42 AM PST by justa-hairyape
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“The EGT is an international grain exporter led by Bunge LTD, a company constituted of 1% bankers whose practices have ruined the lives of the working class all over the world, from Argentina to the West Coast of the US.”

Do the OWSERS really expect that NO ONE should build large ships and send products from one country to another? Do they think that THEY should be working (OMG) and planting wheat, etc. instead of occupying their parents’ basements? Okay, in that case, our government should give us back all the property they’ve taken away from our farmers and give the OWSERS jobs tilling the soil, stacking the wheat, paying for the trucks to transport it, and actually performing a JOB (OMG again) instead of filling our country with their filth and disease.

Disclaimer: I know nothing about EGT, but I do know that the occupiers are a group of useful idiots.


28 posted on 11/20/2011 2:19:04 AM PST by kitkat (Obama, rope and chains)
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Conservative media should get in there and start asking questions .Who are these people ?, if they’re college students, what college ? what’s their subject ? who’s their prof.?..name the names ...if they have signs track the union bug and name shop they were made at. and paid by who ?..


32 posted on 11/20/2011 2:39:04 AM PST by mosesdapoet (Moses ..A nick name II received as a kid for warning another -It's a sin to tell a lie")
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A few weeks ago AFL-CIO President Richard Trumka visited Occupy Wall Street promising to help organize the “political focus” of the human zoo. Since that time “occupiers” have joined unionists in several actions against businesses termed “anti-labor.” As U.S. unions continue to decline in numbers their tactics become more militant and almost nihilistic.

http://tdu.org/node/5128

33 posted on 11/20/2011 3:47:22 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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Not enough was done the last the last time around to deter this time, besides they are supported and encouraged.


34 posted on 11/20/2011 4:01:54 AM PST by ronnie raygun (V)
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Thanks for the warning, dirtbags.

Truckers may not be so kind this time around. The independents anyway.


40 posted on 11/20/2011 4:50:30 AM PST by RGSpincich
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California - the state that committed suicide by liberalism.


46 posted on 11/20/2011 9:28:26 AM PST by Blado (2008: Year Zero of the Zombie Apocalypse.)
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My husband just brought this home to me, yesterday. He had received it at work. Where did you read it?


48 posted on 11/24/2011 8:22:08 AM PST by Eva
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The ILWU is an openly communist organization that has a long history of being involved in anti-capitalist and anti-US movements around the world, especially the Hawaiian Separatist movement and the Cuban sugar grower protests that led to the Cuban communist revolution, as well as various Central and South American issues.


49 posted on 11/24/2011 8:39:50 AM PST by Eva
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