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Bombshell: Police Chief Mark Kessler On Obama ID Fraud; Obama Not Kenyan Or American
BirtherReport.com ^ | June 10, 2013 | Police Chief Mark Kessler

Posted on 06/10/2013 7:07:39 PM PDT by Seizethecarp

Audio PART FOUR @00:18 "This Barry...he's not an American, I can tell you that right now. The information that I was given, he's not an American. He's not even Kenyan and I'm tellin' you that when you find out what he is, your blood is gonna boil. The American people are gonna go absolutely crazy if Congress doesn't do something about this cause he's not Kenyan and he's not American. ...There's no record of him prior to the age of five anywhere in this country. Nowhere. The people that...that they say are his parents, guess what? They're not his real parents. They're not. I've seen the evidence. I've seen the evidence and I give kudos to Mike Zullo and Joe Arpaio because Joe took this bull by the horns and ran with it.

(Excerpt) Read more at obamareleaseyourrecords.blogspot.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: arpaio; birthcertificate; birther; birtherreportcrap; bombshell; certifigate; harvardresumefraud; joearpaio; joesbull; kaganresumefraud; mikezullo; misprisionoffelony; naturalborncitizen; obama; obamabio; obamabirth; obamacitizenship; obamacorruption; obamanationality; obamathefraud; pelosiperjury; rambling; resumefraud; typicaldncfraud; zullo
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To: Fractal Trader

That could. If I remember correctly, the caption of the pic mentioned it was upon his arrival in 1959. I think we can all agree that with Barry, Who Really Knows?


261 posted on 06/11/2013 1:18:08 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: machogirl

That lady in red is the chancellor of Syracuse U—the school that was playing in the game. http://syr.edu/


262 posted on 06/11/2013 1:26:34 PM PDT by Greenperson
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To: Seizethecarp
But it's all still hearsay. I saw nothing in the released files showing that the agents did any form of background investigation.

Let me offer a hypothetical. I'm not sure about the Frank Marshall Davis father theory, but I will use it to show what I mean about the INS files.

SAD becomes pregnant and knows the father is FMD. FMD is one of SAD's fathers best friends, and SAD knows when the baby is born, it will be obvious to her parents how she got pregnant. So SAD approaches BHO an tells him she's pregnant, and asks if he'll allow her to use his name on the BC, and to tell people they are married, and in return, that should help him with his immigration status (he's having a hard time financially because of his work restrictions). When she starts to show, she tells her parents that BHO is the father, and that they have eloped. Her parents disapprove and refuse her from seeing him further. She tells anyone who asks that BHO is the father, and that they are married.

This would explain many of the known facts, like why sometimes BHO claimed Jr. as his son, and not others (he was afraid of having the fake marriage discovered). Why the facts of the marriage where so mysterious. Why they never lived together (her parents did not approve of the marriage). Why she went to Washington, her parents sent her away. And every comment given in the INS files.

This hypothetical can be tweaked many different ways, birth or adoption, parents condemning the situation or being active participants, BHO being a patsy or participant, but they can all fit into the scenario where the situation was one big lie from the get go, and that that lie was told to the INS agents, and the school officials.
263 posted on 06/11/2013 1:51:40 PM PDT by MMaschin
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To: MMaschin

How does the Dunham-Obama divorce decree, which states that they were married by a person authorized by the state to perform marriages and lists a date, time and place of the marriage and lists one child as the offspring of that marriage, factor in to alternative scenarios?


264 posted on 06/11/2013 2:04:53 PM PDT by Nero Germanicus
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To: MMaschin

“SAD becomes pregnant and knows the father is FMD. FMD is one of SAD’s fathers best friends, and SAD knows when the baby is born, it will be obvious to her parents how she got pregnant. So SAD approaches BHO an tells him she’s pregnant, and asks if he’ll allow her to use his name on the BC, and to tell people they are married, and in return, that should help him with his immigration status (he’s having a hard time financially because of his work restrictions).”

I am onboard with SAD likely being Barry’s mom, but she still 17 when she got pregnant and your scenario seems way to precocious for a 17-year-old. goo-goo-eyed romantic lefty that SAD appeared to be her whole life.

I tend to put any conspiracy that resulted in the Kenyan birth location up a level to some kind of deal between a combination of her father BHO Sr. and FMD due to implications for the KGB cell in HI of a promising young KGB asset, BHO Sr., having his future career steering Kenya into the Soviet Bloc derailed by scandal in the US.

Zullo has always been careful not to get out in front of his evidence...well apart from the pencil marks fiasco, but that was relatively minor mistake of seeing something as conclusive that was still open to interpretation, IMO. So I expect that a lot of what Kessler put up in his 10 points was speculation by Zullo, such as “they think his is Saudi.” That is obviously a speculation, not a claim based on evidence.

I will be happy to see ANY actual evidence that Zullo comes up with to help prove the identity of Barry’s parents and location of birth.


265 posted on 06/11/2013 2:06:42 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: WildHighlander57
I think one more thing that might be important in understanding exactly how this could have happened. In section 3 of page 2, it explains WHY the loss of Certificate of Loss of Nationality was issued. Most would assume that such a certificate if issued would be against one's will, and since it would not be required, then one was not issued. What the brief is saying is that it was issued because it was requested to 'facilitate' the Indonesian naturalization process.

It would be interesting to see if Indonesian naturalization laws of the time required the individual to renounce prior nationality.
266 posted on 06/11/2013 2:08:45 PM PDT by MMaschin
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To: PghBaldy

Thank you. I get sick of these games too.


Me too....yawn


267 posted on 06/11/2013 2:09:31 PM PDT by AFret. ("Charlie don't surf ! ")
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To: Nero Germanicus
How does the Dunham-Obama divorce decree, which states that they were married by a person authorized by the state to perform marriages and lists a date, time and place of the marriage and lists one child as the offspring of that marriage, factor in to alternative scenarios?

Ok, so part of the agreement is that BHO goes with SAD to the courthouse, and they are married by a JOP. It's still a scam marriage.
268 posted on 06/11/2013 2:16:23 PM PDT by MMaschin
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To: WildHighlander57; rxsid

Fogbow put out the diamond security paper ‘BC’ claiming it was submitted to Alabama Supreme Court.

It was a Fogbow lie.


269 posted on 06/11/2013 2:16:55 PM PDT by Ray76 (Do you reject Obama? And all his works? And all his empty promises?)
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To: Seizethecarp

FYI:

Kessler talked to Zullo on 6/6/13 and after that got so fired up he apparently invited an group of armed police to enter Wash DC to demonstrate “in the next two weeks” when he mistakenly thought Zullo was going to be there to denounce Barry as a usurper...and he claimed that CCP had invited him to be there.

This led some notional police association to denounce Kessler and perhaps also CCP, so CCP’s Don Jeffrey called Kessler on audio segment FOUR at the thread link to tell him that in no way did CCP back his armed police demonstration in DC. It is a side show prompted by Kessler being totally manic and going all 1776 before knowing whether congress will actually do something.


270 posted on 06/11/2013 2:21:28 PM PDT by Seizethecarp (Defend aircraft from "runway kill zone" mini-drone helicopter swarm attacks: www.runwaykillzone.com)
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To: Seizethecarp

Kessler has posted on his Facebook that he is out of the “birther” thing and the CSPOA.


271 posted on 06/11/2013 2:23:51 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: Greenperson

I can’t figure out how that “martha” blogger thought she/he could pull that one over on anyone? Thanks to Freepers, I was alerted quickly she was an Administrator and not Barry’s alleged mother, “jo ann newman”.

Thanks for the reply.


272 posted on 06/11/2013 2:24:41 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: 4Zoltan

If he’s out of the birther thing, does what he posted yesterday still stand?
Just wondering if he made this stuff up.


273 posted on 06/11/2013 2:34:12 PM PDT by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: bgill

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/ARIZARD/2008-02/1202071780


274 posted on 06/11/2013 2:59:12 PM PDT by chicken head
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To: Nero Germanicus

For the ‘good of the child’ state functions will bend the details. In this case it probably gave a child ‘legitimate’ and named father - even if a farce.

Big BHO was long gone from Hawaii and likely (at the time) to never return. The divorce documents show a ‘one-way’ divorce. All done in Hawaii. ATTEMPTED communication wall over mail. Big BHO never signed anything or acknowledged the proceeding in any way. The records have a registered or certified mail receipt (not sure which off top of the head). It shows the papers were delivered. I think I saw somewhere this would have been a ‘knock and nail’ type summons of request. After so many days or period of time with no response. Judge grants ‘divorce’ and walla - Baby has a father he probably did not have before. Mother is now a ‘divorced single mom’ instead of an ‘unmarried single mom’ and all is then well. No society stigmas on either mother or child going forward. Who cares if she was never really married to Big BHO....he is a foreign national with a history of ‘playboy ways’ and no one probably cared if he really was the father or not - it fixed the family gaps for SAD and child.

This may have even been the first point where Hawaii CREATED BHO II’s legal identity. Regardless of where the baby was born (Kenya, Washington, Canada, Mars, etc.), and regardless of who the original father was or was not, Hawaii probably did their thing in issuing a Hawaii BC so that it showed SAD and Big BHO as the parents. Establishing birth and US Citizenship for the baby - regardless of the baby’s actual past.

What would be confusing about this scenario though is why would they need to ‘steal’ someone else BC #. If this happened this way then Hawaii should have issued an official certificate with an official BC #. Maybe that document was changed again in later marriages, adoptions, divorces, etc. and the forgers do not know what the original number was even if it exist.


275 posted on 06/11/2013 3:05:10 PM PDT by bluecat6 ("All non-denial denials. They doubt our ancestry, but they don't say the story isn't accurate. ")
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To: 1_Rain_Drop

“does what he posted yesterday still stand?”

He seems to have pulled that post earlier today.

Don’t know if it is all connected but I would imagine so.


276 posted on 06/11/2013 3:09:53 PM PDT by 4Zoltan
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To: WildHighlander57
...Means that any child of 0 Sr and SADO is NOT who is currently occupying the White House.

Also could mean that SAD and the kenyan were not the parents of any child. There was always Anna. The people in the village knew about Anna. Mary (she says) babysat for Anna when her own daughter, who was born in July 1959, was eighteen months old, remember? Have you asked yourself what you get when you add 18 months to July 1959? Charlette Le Fevre did, and she came up with 'early 1962' and no one noticed.

277 posted on 06/11/2013 3:11:02 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: MayflowerMadam

You know..... I’ve had a theory that satan always has an anti-christ in the world. For the past 2000 years. Trying to “make it happen”. But God won’t allow it, until the time is right and he lowers the hedge of protection on the world. This guy is one of a long line.


278 posted on 06/11/2013 3:19:03 PM PDT by kjam22 (my newest music video:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l7gNI9bWO3s)
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To: MMaschin
This is more or less my theory as well. To add a possible piece, it is my understanding that when Little Barry came back to Hawaii around 1970, shortly thereafter Frank Marshall Davis' wife divorced him.

There is a possibility that she got a good look at Barry and figured out hubby had diddled Ann, and she didn't like it.

279 posted on 06/11/2013 3:27:19 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Nero Germanicus
How does the Dunham-Obama divorce decree, which states that they were married by a person authorized by the state to perform marriages and lists a date, time and place of the marriage and lists one child as the offspring of that marriage, factor in to alternative scenarios?

You have a copy of a marriage license? Sure, there's an entry on Hawaii's list, but why has no document been forthcoming? Both parties are dead, so there is no privacy issue relating to the release of such a document.

Common law marriage?

280 posted on 06/11/2013 3:29:28 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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