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Use a little imagination, he declares on his tax forms he was left just under 500 hundred thou worth of Bank Shares, and you assume that a woman who was a tenant of a two-bedroom apartment, whose husband sold insurance on the telephone and who never owned any property, 'saved' enough money out of her income to amass such a legacy? How about asking where the funds originated? Might what he was left represent the sum left over after his care and maintenance...for which the Dunhams were probably well rewarded, but might Madelyn have been an honourable woman who spent nothing on herself?

Did she leave an equal sum to Maya, who was her granddaughter? If she didn't, why not? That's been the problem all along, closing the door to questions because one wants to be seen to have all the answers gets you nowhere. It's really more productive to admit: You don't know who his mother was. You don't know who his father was. You don't know when he was born. And you don't know WHERE.

This much I can tell you. He wasn't born with the name he has now. The parents of that child were the kenyan student and Anna. He ended up in Kenya, taught school in Uganda, went to his father's funeral, and looks a whole lot more like his brother Malik who remembers growing up with him in Nairobi.

A ping to Zero's Background Ping list - some of you may have seen this thread already. Perhaps there is no "record" of a BHO in the US until five because when Zero was in HI earlier (we have seen a photo of him at the zoo at a younger age, and also dressed as a pirate), the documents his caretakers were using had a different name? I don't know. One thing is clear - to usderstand the bits that are know, one must first clear the mind of preconceptions; such as the notion that his place and date of birth and parentage are the same as officially presented. Start from scratch.

If anyone wants on/off this ping list, freepmail me.

Once again an eligibility thread is being hijacked and spammed by proponents of the Mal-Val narrative which ultimately claims that Malcolm X and Valerie Sarruf are Barry’s parents. If Zullo has proof that Barry is NOT American, that would seem to exclude Malcolm X from being his dad.

Cross-posting from the Mal-Val narrative thread where there are several hundred comments revealing and rebutting the claim that an alternate “Anna” exists (not Stanley Ann) and an alternate BHO II was her son by BHO Sr. (not POTUS Barry) and that this alternate BHO II grew up to be Roman Obama:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/backroom/2913366/posts?page=1213#1213

I am being challenged on the identity of “Anna Toot” because the Mal-Val narrative requires that she NOT be Stanley Ann Dunham.

Any child of BHO Sr. and a white “Anna Toot” would obviously not be the black as coal Roman Obama, as the Mal-Val Narrative posits, a claim supported NO evidence, witnesses or coherent narrative of any kind.

According to the Mal-Val Narrative, magic baby Roman Obama is born “the original BHO II” from a secret marriage in Hawaii in late 1960.

Roman is intimated repeatedly on this thread to have an Asian mother named Anne seen sitting next to Sr. at the Nachmanoff party picture or standing next to him in the dock picture. Somehow, Roman is black as coal 100% African, not half-Asian in appearance.

According to Mal-Val, Baby Roman is taken to Seattle by January 1961 where he is the baby babysat by Mary Toutonghi (distant cousin by marriage of Valerie Sarruf) and that date is fixed SOLELY by Mary’s 50-year-old memory of how old in months her daughter was when she specifically babysat for Stanley Ann and her mixed-race baby Barry.

But to make the Mal-Val Narrative work, Mary must fail to remember that it was a different Anna, Asian “Anna Toot” (not Stanley Ann) whose very black baby, baby Roman, is the baby that she babysat in Seattle.

According to Mal-Val Roman lost his name, BHO II, to baby PUTUS Barry in the GREAT BABY SWAP OF 1963. That is when Stanley Ann first shows up in Hawaii. She was entrusted for no apparent reason with the son of Malcolm X (an Islamist Black separatist) and Valerie Sarruf a white looking Lebanese Christian.

After the BABY SWAP, Roman and his mom supposedly go to the Philippines in 1964...long enough for the INS FOIA comment mentioning his mom there as “a wife in the Philippines.”

Then Roman’s mom disappears from the narrative and Roman goes immediately and inexplicably to Kenya in 1964 with BHO Sr. where he is raised by Ruth Baker as her own (also inexplicably) and poses in a picture somewhere along the way together with the newly named baby POTUS Barry!

But it is possible to place Barry and Roman together for a picture in this narrative in 1963 if Roman comes back to HI from WA. But their claimed birth separation of a year does not match the 2.5 to 3.5 year apparent age separation of the darker boy (Mark) and his younger brother (David) in the claimed picture.

1,213 posted on Sunday, May 12, 2013 10:14:30 PM by Seizethecarp