[john drake]

I guess I was raised in an era when most women acted with virtue (or were expected to), at least the ones I knew, and was raised and surrounded by women who abided by those Judeo-Christian codes, including my wife of several decades. Naturally, there were always men and women who weren’t interested in living moral lives, they’re everywhere, always have been and the jails are full of them, and prostitution is the second oldest profession in the world. Brainwashed by feminists, huh? I guess it depends what definition of a feminist is; 100 years ago, they wanted the right to vote (no problem with that), however I have been a pro-lifer my entire life, so that makes me an enemy of modern feminists. If feminist you mean that women should be given equal respect for their God-given talents, and recognized as such, in the home or at work, yes. But for sexual freedom, nope, same for men. It leads to tragedy over and over again. Illegitimacy, STD’s, abortion, lies, broken families, etc. As for the ancient Greeks and Romans, I’ve studied both, and yes, they’re societies were considered pagan prior to Christ’s arrival, hence their limited perception of the value of human beings, both genders. I guess I’m an anachronism (Greek word) as to what was normal only fifty plus years ago; but what transpires today as normal is heartbreaking. The old immorality is the new morality, simply put, and what comes from it is only pain, IMHO.

[fr_freak]

Brainwashed by feminists, huh? I guess it depends what definition of a feminist is;

I have no doubt that everything you describe about how things were when you were younger is true. However, your previous post was one where you called all men dogs and implied that women were the virtuous ones who are now corrupted to be like the dirty men.

Well, that is the feminist view of things - the ancient Greeks and Romans saw that women were, by nature, vicious and unfaithful when left to their own devices. Some of the Greek philosophers went as far as to debate whether women had souls. In either case, they determined that women were incapable of moral agency, which is to say that women were incapable of determining and accepting responsibility for right and wrong behavior. Men had to discipline them and enforce virture as if the women were children.

I'm sure you are much older than me, if for no other reason than that the world you describe is nothing like the one I grew up in. I would say that in US society, up until the "sexual revolution" (which really was a sexual de-evolution back to the days of primates) men did enforce the codes of conduct, and men were the ones who made such codes noble. The "sexual revolution" took that authority away from men, and women reverted to their true nature, which is what we see now.