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Only sodomite "marriage" may be advanced at Notre Dame?
La Salette Journey ^ | May 1, 2014 | Paul Melanson

Posted on 05/01/2014 7:42:56 AM PDT by cleghornboy

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To: Dutchboy88

Too many Catholic universities are party schools and sports schools - Boston College, Notre Dame, Villanova, Seton Hall. Then there are smaller ones run by radical nuns.

Parents and students who really want a Catholic education would do better in most cases to save their money and go to a public university with a serious Catholic students organization.


21 posted on 05/01/2014 9:46:52 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: Steve_Seattle
"Tradition Family Property Student Association" I know this is an aside, but what kind of name is that? What is it supposed to mean?

It is comma-free; but common sense implies that it is for people who support tradition, family and private ownership of property -- all things the socialists want to destroy.

22 posted on 05/01/2014 9:48:03 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Albion Wilde
I am shamefaced and angry that such a thing would befall you, Albion, and your family, as well as many, many others.

Yes, it is "bait-and-switch." Yes, it is consumer fraud. Yes, it is an offensive stench in the nostrils of Almighty God.

As for my family, we hadn't the money to put our sons in one of the "really" Catholic institution of higher learning --- the dozen or so little colleges which are, shall we say, confessionally Catholic --- and certainly would not consider one of the big, endowed apostate Universities like ND. From the viewpoint of the Faith, it would be much better to go to a State University. There, at least, you're not left mired in corrupting ambiguity. You know where your allies are, and where your enemies.

23 posted on 05/01/2014 10:14:38 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Stand fast and hold the traditions which you have learned, whether by word, or by our epistle.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o
I'm most certainly not holding it against any of my Catholic friends, my Friend! But I think that, along with the rest of the sex scandals, the bishops could do a better job with those so-called universities.

I am also troubled by Sunday's installation to sainthood of the Bishop of Rome who allowed the sex scandals to flourish under his nose. So I'm checking out of my "hopeful" phase over Pope Francis now, and will be content to be a lapsed CathoProt for the rest of my life. The only thing I can hope for now is an individual congregation somewhere that has not yet given up the race. I'm as done with Big Religion as I am with Big Government and Big Business.

24 posted on 05/01/2014 11:34:41 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Albion Wilde
My best understanding of JP2 is that he was responsible for poor administration and oversight, but not of knowing cover-up or negligence of the morally corrupt sort.

I see it this way: Karol Wojtyla's deep background was with the Polish Church in resistance during the Nazi and Communist eras. In both eras, the State was continually trying to destroy the Church's moral authority by multiplying scurrilous rumors, false charges, and bogus prosecutions against clergy (they did this A LOT). Many of the Polish priests and bishops in JP's formative years were indisputably heroic. That's the vision embedded in him: that of the heroic priesthood.

Later on, he was reflexively and strongly skeptical of moral accusations against prominent priests, especially originating in places were the Church was under attack. He trusted "holy priests." He didn't trust the prosecutors or the press.

This was a serious, serious error. It's particularly sickening in, for instance, the case of Fr. Marcial Maciel, where the pervy-priest was a founder of a religious order that was (ostensibly) very vigorous, very orthodox, very rich in vocations and in the spread of the Gospel. All that "virtue," plus Maciel was a sociopath (overworked word, I know) --- a guy who was devilishly adept at living a double life while appearing astute, humble, holy: a master manipulator, a charmer and deceiver, as so many of the sex offenders are.

A person isn't canonized for having no blind spots, no weaknesses, or even for being a good administrator or a charismatic personality. He's canonized in recognition of heroic virtue which makes him an example to the faithful. I think Pope John Paul had that virtue, which we do well to study and imitate.

But you can go to hell by imitating the faults of the saints.

25 posted on 05/01/2014 11:56:40 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("I set before you this day Life and Death, a Blessing and a Curse. Therefore choose LIfe.....")
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RE :”The TFP handout, 10 Reasons Why Same-Sex “Marriage” is Harmful and Must Be Opposed, was being warmly received by students and faculty members alike. However, several pro-homosexual students ripped up the flier, shouted obscenities, and expressed their desire to deprive the pro-true marriage volunteers of their right to free speech. “

Arguing against same sex marriage is now considered equivalent to using the N word, no its worse.

Free speech as long as it agrees with them.

26 posted on 05/01/2014 12:03:28 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Obama : 'You can keep your doctor if you want. I never tell a lie ')
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To: cleghornboy
THIS is why I will never watch a Notre Dame game unless I'm sure they will lose. When they gave Obama an honorary JD and arrested those praying the rosary while they did so, I sent Father Jenkins my ND hat and thirty silver dimes - sent it so someone had to sign for it as well. Unfortunately ND is typical of “Catholic” colleges as most are fakes. Those interested can find a list of Catholic Catholic colleges on line. You won't recognize most of them. The ones you've heard of are poisoned now.
27 posted on 05/01/2014 2:02:33 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

As usual, a most astute post. I will take your words to heart and continue thinking about these issues. Thank you, Mrs. Don-o.


28 posted on 05/01/2014 8:02:43 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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