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Five U.S. Banks Each Have More Than 40 Trillion Dollars In Exposure To Derivatives
TEC ^ | 09/27/2014 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 09/28/2014 7:00:07 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind
The situation is far worse than that.

What Cooked The World’s Economy?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2209313/posts

And...

Here’s the link for the evidence in the information from the “Bank for International Settlements,” as mentioned in the full version of the excerpted article linked above.

http://www.bis.org/publ/otc_hy0805.pdf

...and a quote from it.

“The over-the-counter (OTC) derivatives market showed relatively steady growth in the second half of 2007, amid the turmoil in global financial markets. Notional amounts of all categories of OTC contracts rose by 15% to $596 trillion at the end of December (Table 1), following a 24% increase in the first half of the year.1”

21 posted on 09/28/2014 8:25:17 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: SeekAndFind

More on what happened in 2007-2008.

China’s imploding US ally (AIG)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2084468/posts

AIG: Inquiring Minds Want To Know
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2192489/posts
(China)

Fed won’t say who helped by AIG rescue
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2200398/posts

Top U.S., European Banks Got $50 Billion in AIG Aid
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2201213/posts

China appeals to Washington to safeguard assets
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2205693/posts

U.S. Federal Reserve to buy up to US$300B long-term Treasury bonds
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2209403/posts


22 posted on 09/28/2014 8:28:09 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: Fishing-guy

This county cannot afford a repeat of 2008.


It seems that we’re living on borrowed time. I wonder how long we can continue to limp along like this.


23 posted on 09/28/2014 8:35:22 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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To: Slyfox

That looks like the stack of diapers my 2 kids went through in 2 years.


24 posted on 09/28/2014 8:40:48 PM PDT by Huskrrrr
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To: Mark17

The debt that is “out there” is astounding; it is nation killer stuff without firing a shot. I too have wondered what the U.S. economic collapse will trigger. Not to be a doom and gloomer, but things cannot keep going the way they have been. The “Federal Reserve” literally printed money out of thin air for many years keeping the financial trading “up”. Now we have obamacare that is working on seizing 1/6th of the nations economy and throngs of municipals and states that simply cannot keep up with union pensions.
The only question in my mind is not “if”, but when does this implode?


25 posted on 09/28/2014 8:41:28 PM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: Jonty30

I am a derivatives trader and you are ignorant about the topic. Anything else I were to say about your post would lack charity so I will end my reply now.


26 posted on 09/28/2014 8:43:18 PM PDT by impimp
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To: SeekAndFind

Should derivative be made illegal? They’re turning betting into an asset in which they could trade it with others. It feel almost like a ponzi scheme


27 posted on 09/28/2014 8:44:17 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: minnesota_bound

Whatever...does the word hedge mean anything to you or do you think it is a gardening term?


28 posted on 09/28/2014 8:44:51 PM PDT by impimp
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To: Leaning Right

Without speculators there is not a liquid supply of counterparties for hedgers.


29 posted on 09/28/2014 8:46:34 PM PDT by impimp
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To: impimp

Come back to me in five years and tell me I’m still a fool, assuming you can afford a dime for the pay phone. :)


30 posted on 09/28/2014 8:47:18 PM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: RetiredTexasVet

Should Conservative support making Derivative illegal?


31 posted on 09/28/2014 8:48:04 PM PDT by 4rcane
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To: SpaceBar

If they are in fact just digits on a hard-drive somewhere why will it take down the world economy? Let us say I was importing iron ore from Brazil and exporting, I dunno, new tires to Brazil. These are actual physical trades.

Nobody ever seems to explain. It always goes from:

Derivatives are just bets on bets and aren’t supporting by anything all the way to it will destroy the world. Eyes glaze over from these descriptions because they don’t seem to be linked.


32 posted on 09/28/2014 8:52:19 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Fishing-guy
Solve the problem by breaking the too-big-to-fail banks into smaller banks like they did with monopolies in the old days.

Obama policies favor bigger and bigger banks and fewer and fewer small banks

33 posted on 09/28/2014 8:54:24 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

I guess we’d better find all the neighbors who have/make/grow things that can be bartered and prepare for the worst.


34 posted on 09/28/2014 8:55:59 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: SeekAndFind
Wasn't Dodd-Frank supposed to put a stop to this? Or at least curtail it to manageable levels?

All D-F did was make small, local banks more vulnerable to be gobbled up by the majors, and make the average American citizen a terrorist suspect every time they deposit or withdraw money.

Where is Chris Dodd anyway? Probably on some exclusive beach with Jon Corzine.

35 posted on 09/28/2014 8:56:09 PM PDT by Paulie (Get off the grid.)
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To: 4rcane

I think the “insurable interest” thing was the key in the earlier posts.


36 posted on 09/28/2014 8:57:28 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Ghost of SVR4

So the question is .... would you rather be the person who owes more debt than you can ever pay back... or the person who loaned you the money? And if you’re the lender.... are you really going to force the borrower into bankruptcy knowing you can never get any of your money back, or any assets once you do that?


37 posted on 09/28/2014 9:00:24 PM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: 4rcane

Should Conservative support making Derivative illegal?


I think it’s too late.


38 posted on 09/28/2014 9:01:06 PM PDT by boycott
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To: impimp

“I am a derivatives trader...”

Really? What looks good for tomorrow morning? (just between you and me...)

Or, put it this way - it’s 4:00pm tomorrow - what am I kicking myself for not having bought?


39 posted on 09/28/2014 9:02:23 PM PDT by Paulie (Get off the grid.)
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To: impimp
Without speculators there is not a liquid supply of counterparties for hedgers.

True, but I could live with that. The cost of the derivative would adjust to meet the supply-demand.

40 posted on 09/28/2014 9:03:02 PM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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