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GA: Moving after this Shooting made sense
Gun Watch ^ | 3 February, 2015 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 02/03/2015 12:07:43 PM PST by marktwain


A legally armed man stopped a string of robberies related to online ads in Georgia, by shooting and killing the robber.   It appears that at least four other robberies were committed before the robber was shot.   The old adage, if it looks to good to be true, it probably is, applies. 

In a twist, the robber offered high prices for the goods, then robbed the victims of the goods at gunpoint.  It is more common for robbers who set people up online to pretend to be sellers, who then steal the cash.  Cash is much more desirable than property, because  property loses considerable value when fenced.  The property at risk in this case was a purebred English Bulldog.    The asking price for the dog was $2,000.  When the robber offered $2,500 for a quick sale just after midnight, the seller did not turn it down, but brought along a friend with a .40 caliber Glock, as insurance.  The pretext for the midnight sale was that the "buyer" was a trucker who worked odd hours.  From rapidadvocate.com:

Walter Gonzalez went with Burgos to make the sale and he said they were both initially reluctant to meet the buyer after dark.

“When I got home from work and my friend told me this guy wanted to buy the dog, it was kind of fishy because, he wanted us to deliver the dog the same night, and we didn’t want to do it,” said Goznalez.

“But the suspect offered him an additional $500, and so for $2,500, he then agreed to meet him,” said Parish.
Two men were waiting outside when the dog seller and armed companion arrived.  Burgos, who was armed, stayed in the vehicle.  Instead of showing cash, the robber displayed a pistol and ordered Burgos to get out of the car.  We do not have all the details of what happened next.   But as Burgos exited the car, he accessed his .40 caliber Glock and opened fire, killing the robbery suspect.   The accomplice fled behind the residence.   

Gonzalez and Burgos then made a smart move.  They left the scene, drove off a short distance, and called the police.   They said that with an accoplice on the loose, they feared that he might return.  It made perfect sense to leave the scene in this case.  From ajc.com:
Safety should be the top priority.  It is good to stay at the scene and preserve evidence.  It shows you in the proper light as the innocent victim.  But tactics and safety come first.   But in this case, the dog seller and his armed friend did the right thing.   Waiting around in an unsecured location with a known hostile  on the loose would have been a mistake.  

When the police investigated the incident, four other people came forward.  All had been robbed at the same location, one only the day before, and two had not reported it to the police.   Bulldogs must be in high demand in the area, because the incident from the previous day also involved an expensive animal.

If the other victims had quickly reported the crimes, Gonzalez and Burgos might have been forewarned and insisted on a different time and location for the exchange.  Then again, they might not.  The extra $500 offered was a powerful inducement to place them in jeopardy.

Deals that are too good to be true often are.

The deceased suspect has not yet been identified.

©2015 by Dean Weingarten: Permission to share is granted when this notice is included.
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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Pets/Animals; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; bulldog; craigslist; ga; selfdefense
Bulldogs must be in high demand.
1 posted on 02/03/2015 12:07:43 PM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
Bulldogs must be in high demand.

David Berkowitz though so.

2 posted on 02/03/2015 12:18:53 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Tijeras_Slim

I have an older Charter Arms Bulldog. It is a great pistol. Just put rubber grips on it and it becomes a sweet puppy.


3 posted on 02/03/2015 12:29:29 PM PST by fini
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To: marktwain

A good purebred is an expensive animal. I knew a girl with one, and she got offers from other states to breed with it, because there was no quality dog of her dog’s gender in the other state.

This being said, if you have to make a high value transfer late at night, offer to have it in the lobby of a police station, in that they are open all the time. Just call the police non-emergency number ahead of time (during business hours) so that they know you are coming at about what time.

And they have cameras everywhere.

If the other person hesitates, it doesn’t matter if they offer you a suitcase full of gold. They are a rip off.


4 posted on 02/03/2015 12:40:36 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: marktwain

According to Murphy’s Laws of Combat, “if the attack is going well, it’s an ambush”.

If the deal is too good to be true, look out.


5 posted on 02/03/2015 12:45:24 PM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: marktwain
Bulldogs must be in high demand.

to dog fighters.........

6 posted on 02/03/2015 12:48:03 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Man of "non-color" and proud of it)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
A good purebred is an expensive animal.

The "buyers" in this case weren't looking for a breeder, they wanted something to throw in the dog ring.......

7 posted on 02/03/2015 12:50:26 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Man of "non-color" and proud of it)
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To: Hot Tabasco

No one fights English Bulldogs. Sheesh


8 posted on 02/03/2015 2:41:10 PM PST by sheana
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To: Hot Tabasco

I doubt it, solely because they would figure it is worth too much loot to waste. It’s rare you see a dog ad for more than a couple hundred dollars. Any mutt will do if it is just to be torn apart in a dog ring.


9 posted on 02/03/2015 2:49:49 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: sheana
No one fights English Bulldogs. Sheesh

They're called "bait dogs"........but you knew that........Sheesh!

10 posted on 02/03/2015 3:42:21 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Man of "non-color" and proud of it)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
I doubt it, solely because they would figure it is worth too much loot to waste

They weren't there to "BUY", they were there to steal. To them a bait dog is nothing but a dog regardless of the breed........

11 posted on 02/03/2015 3:45:47 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Man of "non-color" and proud of it)
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To: Hot Tabasco

He was asking $2000, and they offered him $2500. Kidnapping dogs and demanding ransom is pretty common these days.


12 posted on 02/03/2015 6:33:54 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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