Posted on 10/29/2015 1:32:05 PM PDT by Thistooshallpass9
Do genetics determine morality?
A major argument of the homosexual lobby is that same-sex attraction is genetically determinedâthat people are born homosexual. Because that is the case, the argument follows, then if you say homosexuality is wrong, you are as hateful and bigoted as if you were condemning someone for their skin color.
Homosexual activists decry any effort to change someoneâs sexual orientation as morally reprehensible (reprehensible, that is, if it is a change toward heterosexualityâI have never heard them argue that it would be wrong to persuade a heterosexual to become homosexual). After all, how can you try to change someone from his genetic destiny? They believe that the morally right thing is a full, unrestricted expression of that supposed inborn tendency.
Well, if genetics do determine morality, that notion has some serious implications.
Todayâs homosexual special interest juggernaut started as a small movement. Now, there is another small movement that is growing strongerâa movement that wants to extend this same kind of morality-is-genetic argument to a new group of people: pedophiles. People who are sexually attracted to children.
Michael L. Brown, author of the book A Queer Thing Happened to America, wrote this in the Christian Post: â[S]ome psychiatric leaders who were instrumental in removing homosexuality from the American Psychiatric Associationâs list of mental disorders in 1973 have been fighting to remove pedophilia as a disorder as well, not to justify the abuse of children but rather to say that being sexually attracted to children is not a mental disorderâ (September 28).
âMany Researchers Taking a Different View of Pedophiliaâ the Los Angeles Times reported on Jan. 14, 2013. âPedophilia once was thought to stem from psychological influences early in life. Now, many experts view it as a deep-rooted predisposition that does not change.â
âScientists at the [Center for Mental Health and Addiction in Toronto] have uncovered a series of associations that suggest pedophilia has biological roots,â the Times reports, adding that more and more people are taking the view that pedophilia is âa sexual orientation as immutable as heterosexuality or homosexuality.â It quotes a man who was arrested for child pornography saying that a court ordered him to go to therapy. ââThese people felt they could snuff out the desire, or shame me into denying it existed,â he said. âBut itâs as intrinsic as the next personâs heterosexuality.ââ
In his book, Michael Brown documents how the main arguments that have successfully normalized homosexuality are now supporting the normalization of pedophilia. The Christian Post report lists eight of them:
1) Pedophilia is innate and immutable; people are born this way and cannot change.
2) Pederasty is richly attested in many different cultures throughout history.
3) The claim that adult-child sexual relationships cause harm is greatly overstated and often completely inaccurate.
4) Consensual adult-child sex can actually be beneficial to the child.
5) Pederasty should not be classified as a mental disorder, since it does not cause distress to the pederast to have these desires and since the pederast can function as a normal, contributing member of society.
6) Many of the illustrious homosexuals of the past were actually pedophiles.
7) People are against inter-generational intimacy because of antiquated social standards and puritanical sexual phobias.
8) This is all about love and equality and liberation.
Look again at each of those arguments and replace pedophilia or pederasty with homosexuality. This is exactly the line of reasoning that has successfully normalized and vaunted homosexuals.
You might think, That practice could never become legal, let alone popular. But in 2005, how many people thought theyâd ever see the White House bathed in the colors of the homosexual flag?
With pedophilia, however, there is a twist to the argument. It isnât simply, Weâre born this way, so donât judge us. They add this: And donât worryâweâre not a threat to your children.
This is the argument that appeared in a September 21 Salon.com article headlined, âIâm a Pedophile, But Not a Monster.â The author, a man named Todd Nickerson, wrote:
Iâve been stuck with the most unfortunate of sexual orientations, a preference for a group of people who are legally, morally and psychologically unable to reciprocate my feelings and desires. ⦠Yet, Iâm not the monster you think me to be. Iâve never touched a child sexually in my life and never will, nor do I use child pornography.
In still another example, this past Sundayâs edition of British paper the Independent contained an article by a prominent psychologist, Dr. Glenn Wilson. The title: âNot All Pedophiles Are Bad PeopleâWe Need to Have a Sense of Proportion.â The article reads:
In my studies of the Pedophile Information Exchange in the 1980s, many members admitted sexual feelings for children which they had been able to contain or turn to social good. Some gravitated toward occupations such as schoolteacher or social worker, where they could enjoy the company of children without plotting abuse. ⦠It is possible to be attracted to children as a sexual orientation without acting upon those desires.
Soâin this manâs view, these feelings can apparently be turned to social good. This psychologist spoke to the Telegraph, and said that âpedophilia should be viewed as a type of âsexual orientationâ which is not necessarily acted uponâ (emphasis added).
Ask yourself: Does the idea that pedophiles wonât necessarily act on their desire to have sex with children comfort you? Would you support a pedophile who wants to be your childâs teacher or social worker so he can âenjoy the company of childrenâ? Does it reassure you that âit is possibleâ to be attracted to children without acting on that?
This Salon.com article is aimed at helping you sympathize with a celibate man who is attracted to children. But even he says that anyone who acts on those feelings is a âmonster.â The psychologist in Britain says everything is OK because pedophiles probably wonât prey on children.
But think about this: If genetics determine morality, then why would it be wrong for a pedophile to gratify his desires?
How does it make sense to label a âborn that wayâ pedophile who fulfills his desires a âmonsterââbut then to say that a âborn that wayâ homosexual should fulfill his desires and even marry, because he was âborn that wayâ?
As Selwyn Duke recently wrote,
Today, mainly due to the effort to legitimize homosexuality, the notion that âitâs okay if I was born that wayâ has taken hold. Often articulated as âGod doesnât make mistakes,â itâs rhetorically very effective. Of course, whether an atheist who considers the world naturally flawed or a theist believing it supernaturally fallen, cleft lip, Spina bifida, Down syndrome, club foot, Tay-Sachs disease, and other abnormalities make clear that Godâs perfection isnât enjoyed by man. And is it logical to consider the brain the one organ immune from this imperfection? Note also that the same psychologists telling us homosexuality is innate also say that psychopaths are born and not made. Now, if some people were born with homicidal instincts, would it be alright for them to commit murder?
In truth, if it is wrong to condone pedophilia despite some people supposedly being born with it, then it is also wrong to justify homosexuality for that reason.
You canât have it both ways. Either genetics determines morality or it doesnât.
And the truth isâit doesnât.
Hereâs another thing to ask yourself. This new wave of activists is trying to get us to sympathize with those who have romantic feelings for children but do not act on them. Do you really think thatâs all they are trying to do? Just to feel compassion for celibate pedophiles? If you think that is where this trend is going to stop, wake up. You know absolutely nothing about this group of people.
Consider the views being expressed in these articles in conjunction with other recent events. Think about the fact that American soldiers in Afghanistan have been ordered to ignore their Afghan âalliesâ who sexually abuse young boys, even on American military basesâsupposedly in the name of âcultural sensitivity.â Add to that authorities in Britain ignoring Muslim child sex-trafficking for similar âpolitically correctâ reasons. Add to that the âpedophilia epidemicâ in Hollywood, exposed this past summer in the film An Open Secret. These are people with enormous social influence.
Watch the trajectory of what is happening here. The homosexual movement has completely changed modern culture in less than a decade. People now accept and support practices they were completely opposed to just a few years ago. (Read more about this trend, and why you should be concerned about it, in our free booklet Redefining Family.)
Now, this issue is tracking the exact same direction. Itâs a trend you need to understandâand frankly, to protect yourself and your children from.
We knew this was coming. Rome II. The fall is coming...
We know. NAMBLA has been around for at least a decade.
>>Get Ready: People Are Trying to Normalize Pedophilia
Well, of course. That’s how homosexuals reproduce.
To the lady that flamed me when I predicted this a year ago...I TOLD YOU SO!
Fine. Then that's a reason to put them to death.
Who is this genius psychologist in Britain. I wonder if he would let me search his computer for child porn. I'm guessing no.
The creeps have been sliming their way into literature for a long time. Especially now in science fiction/fantasy. Or please assume quotes have been put around the aforementioned literary categories.
Samuel R. Delaney, a fat sweaty-handed and admitted pedophile, who writes openly about how great child-adult sex is, was awarded a lifetime achievement award by the Science Fiction Writers of America. Some other creep whose name I can’t recall right now and writes stuff he regards as sci-f- fantasy, drools over little boys pink rosy bottoms in his books. He was the presenter at some science-fiction awards ceremony this year, Hugo or Nebula.
They are sort of sub-human, really.
“(reprehensible, that is, if it is a change toward heterosexualityââ¬âI have never heard them argue that it would be wrong to persuade a heterosexual to become homosexual)”
A smuggled premise. You can’t persuade a hetero to become a homo if the inclination is not already there. Think about it. Sexual arousal is a physiological response. If you’re a hetero guy and not turned on by another guy’s hairy butt, no amount of persuasion is going to make that guy’s hairy butt trigger a physiological response in you.
Conversely, trying to “cure” a homosexual is only going to frustrate you and annoy the homosexual.
Ping Jarod and Sandusky.
You were right. There hints of the movement to legitimize pedophilia here on FR four or five years ago. Posts and discussion threads began mentioning the “Man-Boy Society,”
and other organizations and their goals.
Wow, I never thought of that. That’s so sad, but very likely true in a number of cases.
Wow. Just reading Vox Day’s book and this world has been a revelation to me! And not a pretty one.
Looks like a good one! Thanks for posting this. I’ll check it out later.
My boss was caught visiting kiidde-porn sites on his office computer 2 years ago and was’t fired.
My response to this is to ask them to explain vegan-ism. If genetics are so powerful in determining what we do, how do you explain vegans, who go completely against the omnivore genetics that we are born with?
Explain Anne Heche, she who was in a relationship with Ellen DeGeneres for three years, and then followed that with a relationship to, the horror, a man.
Of course, in much the same way that global cooling became global warming, which then became climate change so as to cover all eventualities. I have had people tell me that Anne was not really homosexual, she was bi-sexual. Well how convenient for Anne . . . and your argument.
Liberals have made homosexuality normal so next?
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