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Is the Selection of General Mattis a Signal for Us to Expect a Continuation of COIN Philosophy?
blog: Let Them Fight or Bring Them Home! ^ | December 8, 2016 | John Bernard, USMC (retired)

Posted on 12/15/2016 9:01:12 AM PST by huldah1776

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To: PIF

On Dec 10th I had asked John Bernard the origin of COIN. His reply:

“The origin of COIN is gleaned from the pages of the Small Wars Manual, 1940. Following that it was first used by the French, followed by the Brits and then us.

“Marines were the first in modern history to attempt limited warfare and to exploit to a greater degree, Counter Intelligence gathering in the Philippines and the Banana Wars....a lead Officer who had a career filled with experience in them, Smedley Butler, was a key figure in the writing of that manual.

“Petraeus is one of the Officers who “retooled” COIN in a new manual geared toward our current struggles.”

Burn the book? LOL


21 posted on 12/15/2016 12:43:09 PM PST by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: circlecity

You must be a student of Strunk and White’s atrocious “Elements of Style”. That crappy book has been ruining American writing for nearly a century now.


22 posted on 12/15/2016 1:12:08 PM PST by Flying Circus (God help us!)
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To: huldah1776

COIN worked wonders for the French in WWII; then the British Empire fell apart; we’re next it seems following a failed military strategy.


23 posted on 12/15/2016 1:31:54 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: PIF

They used COIN against the Germans? oy vey.


24 posted on 12/15/2016 1:53:19 PM PST by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: huldah1776

I just thought of the cemetery at Normandy.


25 posted on 12/15/2016 2:25:35 PM PST by huldah1776 ( Vote Pro-life! Allow God to bless America before He avenges the death of the innocent.)
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To: huldah1776

COIN loses wars; the French lost to the Germans; therefore in 1940 COIN lost the war for the French (that and inbred smugness).


26 posted on 12/15/2016 3:40:37 PM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: 2banana

>>“Radicalized” Muslims are simply Muslims who want to be “Good Muslims” in their host country according to the very same Koran and Hadith.<<

“Radicalized” Muslims are the ones who cut your head off.
Muslims who want to be “Good Muslims” or Moderate Muslims are the ones who hold your feet.

“Islam isn’t in America to be equal to any faith, but to become dominant. The Qur’an should be the highest authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion on Earth.” Omar Ahmed, director of Council on American Islamic Relations.

“Where muslims are the minority, they are obsessed with minority rights. Where muslims are the majority, there are no minority rights.”


27 posted on 12/15/2016 3:44:00 PM PST by B4Ranch (Conservatives own 200,000,000 guns and a trillion rounds of ammo. If we were violent you'd know it.)
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To: BuffaloJack

Agree 100%. They are a pox on our combat troops.

As for Gen. Mattis, I admire the man. In his excellent book “No True Glory”, Bing West recounts a meeting that Mattis had with tribal leaders before the main battle for Fallujah.

Before the major battle to take the city, Mattis, as the Marine combat leader, had a 15 minute meeting with a tribal eader named Janabi who was widely seen as the leader of the insurgents.

As the meeting ended, one of the sheikhs nervously started waving his arms to end the short meeting so they could leave, as he had been on hand at the previous meeting where the 82nd Airborne had handed Fallujah over the Marines, and they had been mortared at that meeting which injured a lot of Americans.

“We may be in for it” Kawasimi (who was Mattis’ translator) murmured to Gen. Mattis as they got up to leave.

“I hope so” said Gen. Mattis.

Gen. Mattis shook hands with Janabi before they walked out. Gen. Mattis had been warned that Janabi had previously plotted to assassinate him, in his role as commander, he had brushed off the warning.

Privately, Gen. Mattis had an emergency plan. If they were hit inside the government center (where the meeting had been taking place) as had previously happened, the General was going to arrest Janabi.

if that provoked a firefight inside the room, Gen. Mattis said was going to put two rounds in Janabi’s head.


28 posted on 12/16/2016 1:40:12 PM PST by rlmorel (Orwell described Liberals when he wrote of those who "repudiate morality while laying claim to it.")
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