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Californians Rally for Single-Payer Health Care System
MRC TV ^ | February 23, 2017 | Eric Scheiner

Posted on 02/24/2017 7:57:20 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

KTXL reports that a rally was held in Sacramento, California Wednesday by proponents of a bill that would create a one payer health care system.

Participants included health care unions and patients.

Dr. Paul Song told KTXL, “If we make the system more efficient by having one payer, we can save billions of billions of dollars a year. Plus, we don’t really need to put any more money in - the money is there.”

Bill co-author Senator Toni Atkins of San Diego says Californians shouldn’t have Washington dictate how healthcare is provided to its citizens.

She tells KTXL, now that Californians have had the Affordable Care Act, it has given them a taste of what is possible.

“We don’t want to go back. We expect that there is a role for government to help make sure we all have access to healthcare and coverage.”

According to the Mercury News, Atkins’ bill would include covering illegal aliens in the Golden State.

Gov. Jerry Brown has declined to comment on the measure, but he has supported a single-payer system in the past.

A universal healthcare bill was passed by the California legislature in 2006 after a complex compromise was negotiated with health care advocates, doctors, insurance companies and drug interests.

Almost no one embraced the compromise in its entirety and Governor Arnold Schwarzenegger vetoed it.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Chit/Chat; Government; Health/Medicine; Local News; Miscellaneous; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: california; demostration; healthcare; illegalaliens; jerrybrown; legislature; liberals; obamacare; ppaca; rally; sacramento; singlepayer; socializedmedicine; spending; support; toniatkins
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

FAKE SINGLE PAYER

Taxpayer healthcare is not Single payer.

But it is fake healthcare.


21 posted on 02/24/2017 8:37:49 PM PST by TheNext ("PULL THEIR BROADCAST LICENSE!" - Trump Rally Cry. eg ABC)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
The people rallying to this scheme are Teachers Unions, SEIU (a.k.a. - The illegal alien janitors union, but hey, the world needs janitors) and the usual leftist lunatics who've made protesting a career.

Toni Atkins (hiddeous) San Diego - is one of the top 10 leftist lesbian lunatics who run the state.

22 posted on 02/24/2017 8:38:23 PM PST by muleskinner
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To: muleskinner

The people that want this are not the people that would pay for it.

Standard democrat mindset - get someone else to do the work.

In 1860, it was black people; in 2017, it’s working people.


23 posted on 02/24/2017 8:40:21 PM PST by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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To: All
Obama Single Payer

2003...

Obama speaking to the Illinois AFL-CIO, June 30, 2003:

“I happen to be a proponent of a single payer universal health care program”

“I see no reason why the United States of America, the wealthiest country in the history of the world, spending 14 percent of its Gross National Product on health care cannot provide basic health insurance to everybody.

And that’s what Jim is talking about when he says everybody in, nobody out.

A single payer health care plan, a universal health care plan.

And that’s what I’d like to see.

But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately.

Because first we have to take back the White House, we have to take back the Senate, and we have to take back the House.”

http://www.pnhp.org/news/2008/june/barack_obama_on_sing.php
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How Obamacare Actually Paves the Way Toward Single Payer

By Noam Scheiber
January 5, 2014

https://newrepublic.com/article/116105/obamacare-will-lead-single-payer-michael-moore

24 posted on 02/24/2017 8:41:46 PM PST by ETL (Trump admin apparently playing "good cop, bad cop" with thug Putin (see my FR Home page))
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I’m ok with it. Tenth amendment and all. But I don’t live there.


25 posted on 02/24/2017 8:43:15 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Bill co-author Senator Toni Atkins of San Diego says Californians shouldn’t have Washington dictate how healthcare is provided to its citizens.

I am convinced leftists are missing the hypocrisy recognition gene.

26 posted on 02/24/2017 8:43:20 PM PST by TheDon (MAGA!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

90% of the state gets free or highly subsidized insurance and other benefits because we are a giant welfare state now where few make money and are attacked financially with taxes for it.

CA doubles down on stupid.
$220 billion in unfounded pension debt.
$15-25 billion to illegals each year.

Out of thin air, who can afford single-payer?
I hope the Feds have great stipulations in place before awarding grants (if at all) for welfare insurance.


27 posted on 02/24/2017 8:45:28 PM PST by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

A Colorado single-payer referendum was just defeated 4-1 last November as it would (among other things) have increased the Colorado income tax rate from 4.63% to an effective 14.63% rate.

Vermont tried mightily to adopt single-payer but gave up when the numbers showed it was impossible to levy big enough tax rate increases on this small population state to pay for it.

So, I say to California, why not! Go for it! Triple your income tax rate to pay for this because the Trump administration sure as hell ain’t, and other states would love to have your remaining industries and your college educated workers.


28 posted on 02/24/2017 9:02:21 PM PST by catnipman ( Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: euram

Just let CA have single payer, as long as they remain completely isolated from the rest of the states who don’t have it. And no federal funds for healthcare in the state — a completely self-contained system in the “6th largest economy in the world,” or whatever.


29 posted on 02/24/2017 9:06:09 PM PST by Chaguito
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

How stupid can people get?!


30 posted on 02/24/2017 9:12:51 PM PST by faithhopecharity ("Politicans are not born, they're excreted." -- Marcus Tillius Cicero)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

As long as Californians pay for it go for it. Just don’t expect the free states to pay for it.


31 posted on 02/24/2017 9:13:13 PM PST by TonyM
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To: stylin19a

“Yet, California (population 38.8 million) will make it work?”
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I’m sure they will try.

There are a LOT of clueless moonbats in The People’s Republic of California.


32 posted on 02/24/2017 9:31:46 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (Hey, news media.....TRUMP in 2020. Because, F--- You!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I guess Obama’s KenyanCare isn’t working out for them.


33 posted on 02/24/2017 9:35:47 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it. - Clint Eastwood)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

No cure for stupidity. Not even single payer insurance.


34 posted on 02/24/2017 9:38:58 PM PST by mulligan
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

FREE STUFF FOR ALL..

(wait, you mean I have to pay for it?)


35 posted on 02/24/2017 9:40:16 PM PST by Organic Panic (Rich White Man Evicts Poor Black Family From Public Housing - MSNBCPBSCNNNYTABC)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Dr. Paul Song told KTXL, “If we make the system more efficient by having one payer, we can save billions of billions of dollars a year.

I thought ObamaCare was supposed to do that. No very bright, doc. You shouldn't leave yourself open like that idiot. When you say, "we can save billions", who is 'we'.

36 posted on 02/24/2017 9:43:21 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (I tried being reasonable, I didn't like it. - Clint Eastwood)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

The Free Lunch went out with the New Deal.


37 posted on 02/24/2017 9:44:16 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland US. There'd be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: stylin19a

Single-payer only works if you agree on day one...that no one exceeds a three-star program. You assign maximum costs to procedures and the hospitals have to figure out a way to offer that service, or not cover the service.

At some point, you wake up and realize that of the 500 procedures done at your local hospital...at least 200 of them are no longer possible, and you need to go an hour down the road to major hospital where those will be offered.

Certain doctors won’t operate within the public sector at this point...going into private health care, and you need to pay them in cash.

We can all afford single-payer....it’s just the question...do you want less for less? That’s the only way (logical way) to make it work.


38 posted on 02/24/2017 9:56:22 PM PST by pepsionice
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

It is their state. They can do it if they want to as long as they don’t support it with my taxes.


39 posted on 02/24/2017 9:57:25 PM PST by Fai Mao (I still want to see The PIAPS in prison)
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To: Chaguito
Just let CA have single payer, as long as they remain completely isolated from the rest of the states who don’t have it.

Well, I would want to offer political asylum to doctors and other health care providers who want to escape.

40 posted on 02/25/2017 3:39:11 AM PST by sphinx
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