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Why superorganism logic is an outstanding value proposition
GreenBiz ^ | May 20, 2017 | Tamsin Woolley

Posted on 05/20/2017 6:42:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 05/20/2017 6:42:32 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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Somehow I got through the first few paragraphs. Sure, chimps are nasty. At a zoo you can feel the malevolence radiating out of their eyes. But the writer needs to spend some time around orangutans.
There’s a lot of variety among the higher primates. You don’t have to cite termites and bees (most of those, btw, are solitary, utterly different from honey bees) to find social behavior and cooperation for comparisons.
We’re as different from chimps as orangutans are.


2 posted on 05/20/2017 6:56:51 PM PDT by Buttons12
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This was at least an ambitious attempt to say something.

But it was self-contradictory and typically ignorant of where her basic premises come from, which is Judeo-Christian values.

With her anthropomorphisms I’d not think of her as a serious scientist anymore, if in fact she ever was,based she claims.

Overall quite a jumbled lost mess. Got boring, too. She was a little too enamored with her own cleverness.


3 posted on 05/20/2017 6:58:01 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Reminds one of the Eagals’ song ‘Hotel California’


4 posted on 05/20/2017 7:04:03 PM PDT by no-to-illegals (If America Cared would a moslem cair?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I disagree. The difference is we maintain more child like traits into adulthood. Well, that and our superior neocortex.


5 posted on 05/20/2017 7:04:37 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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There is a profound difference between us, but genetically, we’re 98 percent alike. If we just nudged the evolutionary clock back the tiniest bit — on every airline passenger, Starbucks customer, coworker and passerby — our societies would dissolve in a horrifying bloodbath. But they don’t.

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Except for parts of Chicago and other places where Democrats dominate.


6 posted on 05/20/2017 7:05:35 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Reading this piece, it feels as if the author is on some pretty heavy drugs of a type I can’t quite put my finger on.


7 posted on 05/20/2017 7:06:03 PM PDT by thoughtomator
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To: ifinnegan

I pretty much agree.


8 posted on 05/20/2017 7:07:41 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Somewhere along the the line, something got into the water...Somewhere it did and other places it didn’t.


9 posted on 05/20/2017 7:07:49 PM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I only clicked because I misread “superorgasm”. My bad.


10 posted on 05/20/2017 7:18:25 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Don't be a pessimist, be an optometrist.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I was finished right about “fair share. “ I don’t go past those words anymore.


11 posted on 05/20/2017 7:21:26 PM PDT by enduserindy (I always smile when my competition doubles down on stupid.)
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To: Moonman62

Except for parts of Chicago and other places where Democrats dominate.
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That’s what chaffs me most about wakademics.

It hasn’t happened to them (randomly applied violence), directly, so it doesn’t happen.
And...
It hasn’t happened recently (massive bloody civil violence) so it can never happen.

We’re evolved past all that! Or else we have to go sit in the principals office!!


12 posted on 05/20/2017 7:30:26 PM PDT by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: ifinnegan

Yup! So bad, Charles Lindbergh could have written it. Except his hatred for humanity would not have permitted him to compare us to the noble termites.

As for “man as superorganism,” I’d say it’s the progressive ideal, and therefore bunk.


13 posted on 05/20/2017 7:43:15 PM PDT by Buttons12
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"I only clicked because I misread “superorgasm”.

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14 posted on 05/20/2017 7:47:22 PM PDT by outofsalt ( If history teaches us anything it's that history rarely teaches us anything)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

That old fuddy duddy God isn’t so fuddy duddy after all.


15 posted on 05/20/2017 8:11:15 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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I hope you brought a bowl, the Skittles dropping from that rainbow must have been amazing.


16 posted on 05/20/2017 8:26:48 PM PDT by gnarledmaw (Hive minded liberals worship leaders, sovereign conservatives elect servants.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
There is a profound difference between us, but genetically, we’re 98 percent alike.

This statement, like the claim that we "only use 10% of our brains" is the result of a horrendous oversimplification of something true, to the point where it has become false.

The fact that we have 98% of DNA in common with chimpanzees is an indication that in terms of fundamental biochemistry we would share a lot of pathways, and nothing more. It does not establish that we are like them. It does not imply that we are similar to them even in terms of gross anatomy; it is reasonable to assume we might be, but depending on what's in the remaining 2% we could be (and are) very different indeed.

Examples:

Cats have 90% of homologous genes with humans. Does that make cats 90% human? 91% chimpanzees?

90% of the mouse genome can be lined up with a region on the human genome. 99% of mouse genes turn out to have analogues in humans. We last shared a common ancestor with them when the first dinosaurs roamed the Earth. Are we 99% mice?

The fruit fly (Drosophila) shares about 60% of its DNA with humans. Are fruit flies 60% human?

About 60% of chicken genes correspond to a similar human gene. Are we going to argue that humans are as similar in terms of gross anatomy to chickens as we are to fruit flies?

This is as nonsensical as the author's claim that one tribe of chimps committed "genocide" on another. No. They attacked them and killed them. They made no attempt to exterminate an entire ethnically identifiable race of chimpanzees.

This is the sort of preposterous nonsense that Deepak Chopra comes up with every time he opens his mouth about "physics," and is emblematic of the lack of intellectual discipline in our time.

17 posted on 05/20/2017 8:45:01 PM PDT by FredZarguna (And what Rough Beast, its hour come round at last, slouches toward Fifth Avenue to be born?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Typical “you are only as important as your contribution to the collective” pablum wrapped in pseudo science ...


18 posted on 05/20/2017 8:48:12 PM PDT by SecondAmendment (Restoring our Republic at 9.8357x10^8 FPS)
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I believe humanity’s radical breakthrough was combining the political and problem-solving abilities of a chimpanzee with the collaborative teamwork of an ant society. Our ancestors were the first ant-like apes, and in many ways we have more in common with the termites and honeybees and fungus than with our powerfully individualistic ape brethren.

So we weren't really made in God's image after all?

19 posted on 05/20/2017 8:48:39 PM PDT by pa_dweller (President Donald Trump, President Donald Trump. Because I know you like seeing it.)
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To: FredZarguna

It’s kind of like comparing the bill of materials for constructing a brothel to that for a church. Both are going to have a lot of wood, nails, glass, wallboard, plumbing, wiring, etc. The intent of the buildings varies sharply.


20 posted on 05/20/2017 9:29:15 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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