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We’re Not in a Civil War, but We Are Drifting Toward Divorce
The National Review ^ | June 8, 2017 | David French

Posted on 06/08/2017 9:05:38 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

At an increasing rate, Americans separate themselves into culturally and ideologically homogeneous enclaves.

Last week there were two telling incidents — one small, the other more consequential — that spoke volumes about the state of our national life. Let’s start small. Over in Seattle, in the midst of a debate over juvenile justice, a city-council member invoked his “Republican friends” as a symbol of the broad-based agreement that incarceration policies need to change. One of his colleagues, Kshama Sawant, snapped back with the proud declaration that she didn’t have any Republican friends. The crowd cheered.

Sure, it’s but one small incident, but consider something bigger. The state of California is in the process of taking a series of political steps that are not only cementing its status as a progressive enclave, it’s stumbling toward its own foreign policy. After Donald Trump withdrew America from the Paris climate agreement, California governor Jerry Brown rushed to fill the void. California is touting its collaborations with China to combat global warming. Here’s Brown, in reporting by the Sacramento Bee:

“It is a little bold to talk about the China–California partnership as though we were a separate nation, but we are a separate nation,” Brown said of the state, with nearly 40 million residents and the world’s sixth-largest economy. “We’re a state of mind. I include Silicon Valley, I include the environmental activism, the biotech industry, agriculture. This is a place of great investment in innovation.”

Indeed, California has such a different view of the relationship between citizen and state, it’s virtually seceding from the Constitution, overriding the First Amendment time and again for the sake of “social justice.” And now its legislature is even taking the first steps to implement a $400 billion single-payer health plan....

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TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: california; civilwar; cwii; cwiiping; radicals; secede; secession
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
David French is a naive fool.

The left declared this civil war on the country a long time ago, David French is just painfully incapable of knowing it.

The old saying, "They were at war with us, but we were not at war with them." comes to mind.

41 posted on 06/08/2017 10:01:48 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Trump. He stands for the great issues of the day. Stay the course!)
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To: Fred Hayek
Then can its statehood be revoked and reduced to a territory?

That wouldn't end the treasonous insurgency there. We either let California go, and face the consequences, or we take it back by force. I don't see any other options.

42 posted on 06/08/2017 10:01:59 AM PDT by Windflier (Pitchforks and torches ripen on the vine. Left too long, they become black rifles.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

David French...now where did I hear that name from?


43 posted on 06/08/2017 10:04:26 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: Windflier

Lol

High five

Bring them to heel

And deport all illegals

It’s a start


44 posted on 06/08/2017 10:05:15 AM PDT by wardaddy (Eff You I'm Millwall!)
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To: MeganC
Most of California’s land is in conservative hands. Why would you want to condemn free people to socialist rule?

If California secedes there will be ample time for conservatives to leave. Also there will be plenty of time for wild eyed leftist from all over the USA to emigrate to CA. It will all work out.

Why should the rest of the other states suffer because Kalifornia has gone leftist-insane?

45 posted on 06/08/2017 10:05:55 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: aquila48; Windflier
Why continue the misery when both sides want out?

You should ask a unionist bully like windflier that question.

46 posted on 06/08/2017 10:07:57 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Windflier; Still Thinking

I know kali well especially the rural parts in the north

The state is held captive by coastal elites and the capital

Land mass wise it’s our state still

In an actual upheaval you can’t hold territory via city dependents

It would be like Rome holding Gaul just with Rome or Capua or Ostia


47 posted on 06/08/2017 10:11:10 AM PDT by wardaddy (Eff You I'm Millwall!)
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To: Nifster
I served with a couple of officers that were commissioned from UNG, all good people, good officers.

I grew up in CA, graduated from HS in '72. My last two months of HS were miserable. I was ostracized on campus for merely accepting a 4 year Army ROTC scholarship. I even had teachers say to my face how "disappointed" they were with my decision.

The only teacher who publicly supported me was my calculus teacher, a former Jesuit priest from Marquette. He was thrilled I chose to matriculate at Gonzaga.

I wasn't cowed, I was defiant: I had my choice of over 300 colleges in the US, and my parents would not have to shell out a dime for my college education. I pointedly compared my deal to that of the top 10 of my class, who received pittances compared to the value of my scholarship.

During college, my stepfather retired and they moved up to Oregon. I basically shrugged the dust off my shoes, and never returned. I might go back for one reunion, but what's the point?

The Army took me to Fort Bliss after college. Except for four years in Germany, I've been a naturalized Texan since 1976.

48 posted on 06/08/2017 10:12:07 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Gonzales! Come and Take It!)
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To: Windflier

So am I. Only an idiot would give it up without a fight.


49 posted on 06/08/2017 10:13:32 AM PDT by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"It was fine in 1974 when we left."

Ahhh --- so it was YOUR fault then? Without you there, look what happened ...

50 posted on 06/08/2017 10:14:26 AM PDT by BlueLancer (Ex Scientia Tridens)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Federalism is the answer. Now if you can just separate the checkbooks so that Red is paying for lazy deadbeat blues, attaining citizenship is on a level playing field, and freedom of LEGITIMATE religious freedom is guaranteed.

That is why we are heading for civil war.

51 posted on 06/08/2017 10:21:14 AM PDT by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Divorce doesn’t work. That’s the lession of the civil war. We either dominate them and force them to our ways or they’re going to try an exterminate us. I hear liberals talking about how they should have finished the job with the civil war instead of letting the people different from themselves endure.


52 posted on 06/08/2017 10:23:57 AM PDT by JohnyBoy
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To: Windflier

> I’m for invading California and taking it back by force.

Deport the Marxists to Mexico once we’ve liberated the state.


53 posted on 06/08/2017 10:25:21 AM PDT by JohnyBoy
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To: central_va

>If California secedes there will be ample time for conservatives to leave. Also there will be plenty of time for wild eyed leftist from all over the USA to emigrate to CA. It will all work out.

>Why should the rest of the other states suffer because Kalifornia has gone leftist-insane?

Why not purge the leftists? Send them to live with their Mexican and African buddies they’re always so worried about helping. There’s no way that they won’t start a war on us if we leave them alone.


54 posted on 06/08/2017 10:28:23 AM PDT by JohnyBoy
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To: central_va

Sorry, but it won’t work that way. The leftists might secede but they’ll face a bloody civil war if they try to imposes their insanity on the free Americans who live in Northern and Eastern California.


55 posted on 06/08/2017 10:29:02 AM PDT by MeganC (Democrat by birth, Republican by default, conservative by principle.)
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To: MeganC
Sorry, but it won’t work that way. The leftists might secede but they’ll face a bloody civil war if they try to imposes their insanity on the free Americans who live in Northern and Eastern California.

I don't care at that point what happens inside CA after they leave. It's their problem not mine.

56 posted on 06/08/2017 10:32:00 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: D Rider

The entire Bay Area including Sacramento.


57 posted on 06/08/2017 10:32:30 AM PDT by DownInFlames
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To: central_va

>I don’t care at that point what happens inside CA after they leave. It’s their problem not mine.

We either hang together or we hang separately.


58 posted on 06/08/2017 10:33:14 AM PDT by JohnyBoy
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To: JohnyBoy

If CA secede they go with my blessing. I won’t lift a finger. Just pass me the popcorn.


59 posted on 06/08/2017 10:35:17 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I left in 1979, as it was evident to me that the state was changing for the worse.


60 posted on 06/08/2017 10:37:16 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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