Posted on 08/29/2017 5:07:42 AM PDT by RummyChick
I remember the Oakland Hills fire. That was a densely populated area with little access, but it was still locally contained.
You would have evacuated Thursday night. Fine, let's work with that.
You would have had only 24 hours before landfall. My backyard rain gauge had only 0.3 inches of rain on Friday. However, on Saturday I had 5.9 inches, and on Sunday I had 13.9 inches.
This means that you would have filled the freeways on Friday, and then covered the evacuating people with 6 inches of rain on Saturday and 14 inches of rain on Sunday.
That is, unless you think you would have had an orderly, and steadily flowing, egress on Friday. Again, you have to remember that the Houston freeway system is designed to be the first defense, that is, they freeways are the catch-basins for flood waters. Therefore, you only had 24 hours before the freeways started to fill up with water.
How many people do you think you would have evacuated in 24 hours in a city the size of Houston, and how would you have cut of the flow of people after that?
-PJ
LOL, lovew your post!
You keep defaulting to you are evacuating everyone. It is the failure in your argument.
It is too bad. Because you can’t think outside the box.
And yes, of course, wildfires ONLY happen in rural outback areas. Tell that to the people who live in the Front Range when they get 15 minutes to evacuate and to drive down the dirt mountain road.
That's a non-sequitur to this discussion. Nobody here had only 15 minutes to evacuate.
You keep defaulting to you are evacuating everyone. It is the failure in your argument. It is too bad. Because you cant think outside the box.
Then you've done a poor job of defining your box, because I don't understand it.
You say that you're not evacuating everyone. I asked you whom you WOULD evacuate, and showed you a map that indicates that the flooding is not isolated, but evenly spread across ALL of Houston.
You did not address that point.
If you are not evacuating everyone, then who ARE you evacuating? I'm telling you that cannot isolate a segment of Houston to evacuate as the most at risk, because they are all at risk. The flooding is distributed fairly evenly across all of Houston.
I showed you a map that indicates that no matter where you choose to evacuate, those roads are flooded.
I presented to you a scenario where you had 24 hours to choose a section of Houston to begin evacuating, and told of my own backyard rainfall metrics. I did not point out that I live in the northern section of the region, and rainfall totals are higher to the south. You refuse to respond to the actual facts on the ground.
Why don't you paint a picture of your box, because I don't think you have any idea of the area you're criticizing.
-PJ
As someone who has lived on the Gulf Coast my entire life, I can state this with certainty.
IF you get your head out of your ass, get off the phone and actually PAY ATTENTION, you have a plan for this eventuality.
MOST who have lived on the Coast their entire lives (or at the very least) a few years, start buying supplies in January so that they don’t have to spend alot of money all at once. MOST with a brain do not let their vehicles get below half a tank, and actually pay attention to the local forecast. Don’t get me wrong, not all weather people know their a$$hole from their elbow, but the ones who do, you use common sense, and watch. IF you live in a flood prone area, an area where there are levees, mobile home, or just feel unsure. YOU take the a breath and you get out. You CANNOT wait and let the “Officials” decide what is best for you and yours.
I don’t understand these “well this person in Authority said we should stay home” mentality. Can no one think for themselves anymore.
When Andrew left Florida, and was making a beeline for Louisiana (was living there at the time) BEFORE anyone said anything about “maybe” evacuating, we were already on the road.
People HAVE to pay attention and plan for this, and most do, but we’ve got an entire generation out there of babies who cannot think for themselves.
Well, it is difficult for people who are entrenched in surrender to understand ideas that make a difference.
Is that real?
He’s big time toast if so.
I was watching this last week thinking this is a major catastrophe headed at them.
Rainfall predication’s last week were 36-40 inches.
Next time bring facts.
Bye.
-PJ
It is too bad that when I did bring up facts you were so surrendered to defeat you couldn’t see them. Right in front of you there are valid solutions.
Instead, just like Obama (those jobs are coming back), you buy the idea there is nothing that can be done but to sit there and let people drown in their homes and cars.
We used to be the shining leader on earth. If something needed to be done, we would find a way to do it. Now, we are so soft, unwilling to delve into the unknown, truly explore possibilities.
I work in emergency planning for a medium sized city’s hospital.
When I read the plan for total evacuation of the hospital, it was one of the shortest of all scenarios.
I will let your imagination wander for a while considering all of the reasons that might be so.
Why evacuate when everything that goes wrong can be blamed on President Trump?
J
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