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Could StarTram Revolutionize Space Travel?
Real Clear Science ^ | October 3, 2017 | Ross Pomeroy

Posted on 10/03/2017 10:07:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

While stuck in traffic in 1961, James Powell, a young researcher at Brookhaven National Laboratory came up with the idea of using powerful magnets to lift and propel massive passenger-carrying cars. Over the next seven years, he and his colleague Gordon Danby spent their spare time piecing together a concept. They obtained a patent for the breakthrough in 1968. Powell and Danby's magnetic levitation, or maglev, technology must have seemed like magic back then, but it is now being used to move large trains at speeds up to 375 miles per hour!

Not content to rest on this sole accomplishment, the 84-year-old Powell now has grander ambitions for his maglev breakthrough. In 2001, he teamed up with George Maise, an aeronautical engineer and 23-year veteran of Brookhaven National Laboratory, to put forth an idea to revolutionize space launches: StarTram.

StarTram is just as audacious as its name implies. It boils down to building a maglev train to outer space. Here's how it works: Magnetically-levitated spacecraft will be propelled inside a curved tube aimed skyward. All air will be evacuated from the tube in order to eliminate drag. Craft will exit the lengthy tube at a speed of 8.8 kilometers per second in order to escape Earth's atmosphere. A generation-1 StarTram design intended to launch cargo vessels will feature a 81-mile tube built up the side of a mountain to reach a launch altitude of 12,0000 to 20,000 feet. The Andes Mountains of Chile or the White Sands Missile Range of southern New Mexico might be ideal locations. Powell estimates that spacecraft could be launched every hour, carrying upwards of seventy tons of cargo per launch at a cost of just $20 to $50 per kilogram....

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TOPICS: Government; Science; Travel
KEYWORDS: maglev; pipedream; space; spacetravel
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1 posted on 10/03/2017 10:07:35 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wish we’d built mag lev trains here.


2 posted on 10/03/2017 10:19:06 PM PDT by ifinnegan (Democrats kill babies and harvest their organs to sell)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Yep, it's a cool idea. Which is why Heinlein used it almost 65 years ago.


3 posted on 10/03/2017 10:30:38 PM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus (Hilary for Prison!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
SpaceX's BFR will be much more economical than current rockets, so much so that any other radical idea would not be able to get funding. this was already the fate of one promising project that I know of.

BFR

4 posted on 10/03/2017 10:34:34 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
First off, to propel spacecraft to necessary speeds, a massive amount of power will need to be stored and discharged over roughly thirty seconds, think between 50 and 100 gigawatts! That's equivalent to the power output of around 50,000 commercial wind turbines.

Or 50 to 100 full size nuclear power plants.

That is a lot of power.

And I can’t imagine the size of the capacitor banks that it would need to store that power for quick release at “around 200 million amperes!”

I can’t imagine the noise that it would make when those capacitors were discharged

5 posted on 10/03/2017 10:35:02 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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To: Pontiac

Imagine if someone hooked it up to a door knob!


6 posted on 10/03/2017 10:39:01 PM PDT by Axenolith (Government blows, and that which governs least, blows least...)
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To: Axenolith

Instant plasma.

Which is why they need superconducting cables.

Copper or aluminum cable would instantly vaporize.


7 posted on 10/03/2017 10:43:01 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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To: Vince Ferrer

Have you seen the IAC presentation Musk gave? Incredible.

The actual BFR is going to be scaled down, but still more powerful than the Saturn V, and 100% reusable. They are also looking to use it for suborbital commercial passenger flights.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxjGKm5-1eM&feature=youtu.be


8 posted on 10/03/2017 10:45:12 PM PDT by Moonman62 (Make America Great Again!)
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To: Flatus I. Maximus

Beat me to it! ;-)


9 posted on 10/03/2017 11:00:37 PM PDT by The SISU kid (I think they taste like Barbie dolls smell.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

an 81 MILE vacuum tube filled with track, magnets and superconducting electrical cables, powered by dozens of nuclear plants (!)

but wait! it's built on the side of a mountain!


10 posted on 10/03/2017 11:35:40 PM PDT by 867V309 (Lock Her Up)
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To: Flatus I. Maximus

Wasn’t this also the basis for the launchers (”catapults”) that the Moon colony used to threaten Earth, to gain their Independence, in Heinlein’s Libertarian classic “The Moon is a Harsh Mistress”?

TANSTAAFL!


11 posted on 10/03/2017 11:52:13 PM PDT by BeauBo
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To: 867V309

Sorry too late
From the same team as Thunderbirds mid 1960’s
I dont think Elon was born then !!!

Fireball XL5 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ifS2nP53Zs

short video great song - enjoy


12 posted on 10/04/2017 12:05:17 AM PDT by MrDaddyLongLegs (fOR)
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To: Pontiac

Imagine the noise and flash from 200 million amps if there was a short circuit!


13 posted on 10/04/2017 12:22:05 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: minnesota_bound
Scale model tests are already being done.
The gov't is not telling us everything.....
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14 posted on 10/04/2017 12:40:47 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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Imagine the noise and flash from 200 million amps if there was a short circuit!

I can imagine it would be something like a MOAB detonation.

But that does bring up some interesting tech questions that I had not considered.

Operating this Mass Driver is going to require some new technology in switches and breakers.

I would think that the work that the Navy and their research contractors have done with their railguns would be applicable but even those would be puny in comparison.

I think that the switches for launching something this big might be disposable. Such as close the switch once and throw it away because it destroys itself in the process.

15 posted on 10/04/2017 1:41:39 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.L)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

bkmk


16 posted on 10/04/2017 4:47:47 AM PDT by sauropod (I am His and He is Mine)
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To: Axenolith

“Imagine if someone hooked it up to a door knob!”

They would move pretty fast!!!


17 posted on 10/04/2017 4:58:17 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (I don't want better government; I want much less of it.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Dick Tracy did it first.


18 posted on 10/04/2017 6:28:31 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (<img src="http://i.imgur.com/WukZwJP.gif" width=800>)
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To: Pontiac

100 gigawatts!!!

19 posted on 10/04/2017 6:32:15 AM PDT by BlueLancer (ANTIFA - The new and improved SturmAbteilung)
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To: minnesota_bound

One of my all-time favorite sci-fi books.

20 posted on 10/04/2017 6:33:47 AM PDT by BlueLancer (ANTIFA - The new and improved SturmAbteilung)
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