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How A North Korean EMP Attack Could Kill Millions, Turn America Into A Post-Apocalyptic Wasteland
TEC ^ | 11/30/2017 | Michael Snyder

Posted on 11/30/2017 8:37:26 AM PST by SeekAndFind

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To: Southack
blast at 200,000 km altitude (sweet spot in Ionosphere for EMP effects)

That's about half the distance to the moon. Should that be 200,000 m or 200 km?

101 posted on 11/30/2017 12:37:54 PM PST by Right Wing Assault (Kill: NFL, Hollywood, NBA, BLM, CAIR, Antifa, SPLC, CNN, ESPN, NPR, TWITTER, FACEBOOK)
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To: CodeToad

Climbing up a rope on fire.


102 posted on 11/30/2017 12:51:19 PM PST by Boardwalk
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To: DCBryan1

This is such a hoax....


103 posted on 11/30/2017 12:52:12 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: grey_whiskers

This is a stupid hoax. Nothing would happen.


104 posted on 11/30/2017 12:53:03 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: CodeToad

Yeah, we have a couple of Missileers here...one on MX, another on Minuteman IIIs. Freeper on the MX silos, forgot his name was purged with Giuliani purge. We need a nuke ping here similar to the treadhead and Military intel ping lists.


105 posted on 11/30/2017 12:53:37 PM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!)
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To: central_va

EMP is not a hoax, the belief that one or two atomic weapons could bring us to our knees IS a hoax. A lot of hyperbole with the book “One Second After” (an excellent FICTION book btw).


106 posted on 11/30/2017 12:56:16 PM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!)
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To: SeekAndFind

They did a study on cars with ECU’s(onboard computers). The only cars affected were the ones actually running at the time of the pulse. And those that quit only needed to be restarted. None had any permanent real damage as a result of the EMP.


107 posted on 11/30/2017 12:57:35 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: DCBryan1

Google EMP tests on vehicles. In 5 minutes you will educate yourself on this hoax


108 posted on 11/30/2017 1:01:04 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Right Wing Assault

200,000 meters. That typo was just in one spot. I used meters thereafter!


109 posted on 11/30/2017 1:01:34 PM PST by Southack (The one thing preppers need from the 1st World? http://tinyurl.com/ktfwljc .)
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To: central_va

I used to own a V12 BMW 850 CSi. EMP shielded to get German fat cats out of Germany cities in case of airburst. Yes, they marketed it as EMP proof (not why I bought it)


110 posted on 11/30/2017 1:05:33 PM PST by DCBryan1 (No realli, moose bytes can be quite nasti!)
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To: SeekAndFind

EMP is an overblown boogie man.


111 posted on 11/30/2017 1:12:10 PM PST by Dalberg-Acton
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To: DCBryan1

According to data from the EMP Commission, the conventional wisdom may be wrong, or at least not entirely correct. In a study released in 2004, the EMP Commission subjected 37 different cars and trucks to simulated EMP attacks and found that none of them suffered permanent, crippling damage, although the results were somewhat mixed.


112 posted on 11/30/2017 1:17:18 PM PST by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: DCBryan1

.... Dumb freshman believed there were secret missile fields around Lawrence...

The launch sites around Carroll and Marshall Counties in Missouri weren’t so secret. They were fenced off areas in about a one acre surface area with the typical “US Property. Keep Out” signs. They had a small shed on it along with a concrete pad about 20’ or so square. That was the door/silo cover that would have rolled open before a launch. Everybody knew where they were and what they were.


113 posted on 11/30/2017 4:07:15 PM PST by Sasparilla ( I'm Not Tired of Winning.)
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To: headsonpikes

Ping.


114 posted on 11/30/2017 4:48:46 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: T-Bone Texan
The other main issue I had in mind is "carrying capacity".

I wrote an article on FR about this, with respect to Avian Flu awhile back.

The point is that in order to save money, our business world has abandoned any trace of redundancy, duplicate function, or stockpiling; all in favor of "just in time" supply chains.

And this saves money: it's just not sustainable once supply chains get interrupted.

Under those conditions, it mimics the medical condition known as "shock" in the human body, wherein ALL the blood vessels open wide at the same time, and blood pressure (and therefore the amount of blood delivering food and oxygen to the tissues) plummets catastrophically.

It gets worse, though, due to panic: at the very moment deliveries are curtailed, panic-driven demand skyrockets.

Result: no food, no supplies, and increased panic.

Urban populations forage afield for sustenance: and presumably are strenuously resisted (up to and including deadly force) by the inhabitants of the first-ring suburbs, who were also caught by surprise but at least had the dubious saving grace of not outnumbering their supply chokepoints (grocery stories, C-stores, etc). quite so outrageously.

The other issue that feeds into this would be the number of vehicles either no longer serviceable, or out of fuel: limiting the ability of the hordes to reach the outskirts of town for rapine and plunder, in at timely fashion.

115 posted on 11/30/2017 5:35:01 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: central_va

That’s great, but cars aren’t the only thing affected. Satellites, transformers, computers, all kinds of things we rely upon implicitly.


116 posted on 11/30/2017 5:40:16 PM PST by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: T-Bone Texan
Not a big sweeping statement. lol.

I say it for a few reasons. Folks out in the country typically prepare for emergencies. Usually have their own water sources, able to hunt, fish, grow veggies, forage, own poultry and or other livestock. Many around our parts own horses...more than one, typically have fuel sources such as farm diesel and or wood to burn.

Urban folks will be in a world of hurt. Country folks know one another and are more likely to ban together to protect swaths of territory against outsiders.

The lakes in our area for fishing, ferrule pigs, garden, chickens/eggs....folks in this area would be just fine, for a while anyhow.

117 posted on 11/30/2017 5:40:48 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: shotgun

Folks used to dig wells all the time. When times call for extreme measures...people will rise to the occasion.


118 posted on 11/30/2017 6:00:28 PM PST by servantboy777
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To: The Great RJ

Doubtful that little Kim is going to attack the USA unless China gives them the green light-that day is likely down the road. On the other hand, if the conspiracy theory that he is controlled by the CIA, is true, could happen any day.

Most Congress Critters don’t give a plugged nickel about the well being of citizens, as long as they have their bunkers all ready they are happy. Hence the demise of all the civil defense efforts of the cold war period.

I am skeptical that a mere lack of electricity would be unsurvivable for all us country folk. City folk will be more challenged. We’ve survived without electricity for several weeks here.

China has made it clear that they think this is their century to dominate world leadership, so that is a big concern - and they are using our dollars from buying there stuff to finance their military.

Thanks to the Toon, and preferred trade status.


119 posted on 11/30/2017 9:14:59 PM PST by greeneyes
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To: jeffc

I still do not believe the NORKs are crazy enough to do it. They are crazy (at least Fat Boy is), but c’mon: launching a nuke attack against the U.S. is signing your death warrant.

I think the danger is in the NORKs selling it to a terrorist organisation to let them do the dirty work and take all the blame while they stand by with a “not me” look on their faces....


Well, I watched video of reporter in NK—he had beeen there previously and went back in Sept. Sure he has an agenda, but it was interesting listening to the people he interviewed and watching their body language, etc.

After watching this, I do think they are crazy enough to do it...They have been indoctrinated with anti-American propaganda since the Korean war.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/05/opinion/sunday/nuclear-north-korea.html

From watching this video, I think they would likely take credit. However, if Kim gets worried, he might very well sell the technology to someone else to do the dirty deed.

There is no excuse for this vulnerability...So instead of working to actually protect the US citizens from real threats, congress is busy protecting their A$$es paying out hush money for their tawdry sexual exploits. It is just criminal :(


120 posted on 12/01/2017 12:34:14 AM PST by Freedom56v2 (If you think health care is expensive, just wait until it is "free" ;( PJ O'Rourke)
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